Topic: I’m thinking Islam might be my religion.
Anonymous A started this discussion 4 days ago #127,051
I’m still wrestling with the last part of the Shahada. It’s because it conflicts with my belief of the necessity of there being a last prophet.
From my conclusions, if only for me, the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last prophet because his actions and words echo through time.
He showed the people:
- Algorithms (Order of Things)
- A return to form. (Natural habits; I think Y-Chromosomal Adam)
- Importance of proper hygiene through Wudu practices. (This is likely Allah’s wishes; cleanliness is next to Godliness; lather, rinse, repeat)
- Military strategies.
- A need for social justice.
- Future-proofing.
- Amending & Adapting (?) (Still looking this one up. This one may fall to Prophet Isa (PBUH), also known as, Jesus Christ in Christianity.
I feel maybe the call of Allah has been deeply rooted in my life for so long and one small instance sparked a massive transformation in me.
Also, if Cato wishes to speak to me, tell him I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
From my conclusions, if only for me, the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is the last prophet because his actions and words echo through time.
He showed the people:
- Algorithms (Order of Things)
- A return to form. (Natural habits; I think Y-Chromosomal Adam)
- Importance of proper hygiene through Wudu practices. (This is likely Allah’s wishes; cleanliness is next to Godliness; lather, rinse, repeat)
- Military strategies.
- A need for social justice.
- Future-proofing.
- Amending & Adapting (?) (Still looking this one up. This one may fall to Prophet Isa (PBUH), also known as, Jesus Christ in Christianity.
I feel maybe the call of Allah has been deeply rooted in my life for so long and one small instance sparked a massive transformation in me.
Also, if Cato wishes to speak to me, tell him I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
(Edited 20 seconds later.)
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 12 minutes later[^] [v] #1,373,411
Cato practices Zen Islam, which has many irreconcilable disagreements with Sunni or Shia Islam.
SakawaBoyGenius joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 6 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,416
@OP
> I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
With all due respect: what did I just read?
> I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
With all due respect: what did I just read?
SakawaBoyGenius double-posted this 4 days ago, 7 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,417
Wait… are you saying you want to talk to a trans woman or are you saying you are a trans woman?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 4 days ago, 56 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,435
What Quran do you use??? ○○●○○○♧♧♤♡Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,456
Father Dave !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,474
My faith is the church of the lateral day thinkers.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,476
Why are you talking about yourself in the third person again
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 days ago, 7 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,507
@1,373,416 (SakawaBoyGenius)
@1,373,417 (SakawaBoyGenius)
> I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
> > I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman, who was assigned male at birth, who also heard the call.
Oh, sorry about that, I'm still practicing proper comma usage.
@1,373,456 (E)
I'm sorry, I do not recall reading anything in my studies that says this. Are you perhaps confusing the practice of Islam with the zeitgeist commonly found among some of those who practice the Abrahamic faiths.
@1,373,411 (B)
I'm not sure what "Zen Islam" is, but please enlighten me. I've searched online and couldn't find anything about this school of thought. It does sound similar to Sufism to an extent.
@1,373,435 (D)
I've only read bits and pieces of it. However, you have not experienced the Quran until you've read it in the original Arabic. Yes, that was a cheeky nod to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. I just swapped out "Shakespeare" and "Klingon." Anyway, I've been studying the language from a pretty good Arabic/English dictionary I took out from the public library. Turns out, I can read Arabic, like the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) bestowed the same gift of reading to me that he did The Prophet (PBUH) or I started to believe in myself and my abilities, that works too. Probably both, yeah, I'll say both. That works for me.
@1,373,417 (SakawaBoyGenius)
> I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
> > I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman, who was assigned male at birth, who also heard the call.
Oh, sorry about that, I'm still practicing proper comma usage.
@1,373,456 (E)
I'm sorry, I do not recall reading anything in my studies that says this. Are you perhaps confusing the practice of Islam with the zeitgeist commonly found among some of those who practice the Abrahamic faiths.
@1,373,411 (B)
I'm not sure what "Zen Islam" is, but please enlighten me. I've searched online and couldn't find anything about this school of thought. It does sound similar to Sufism to an extent.
@1,373,435 (D)
I've only read bits and pieces of it. However, you have not experienced the Quran until you've read it in the original Arabic. Yes, that was a cheeky nod to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. I just swapped out "Shakespeare" and "Klingon." Anyway, I've been studying the language from a pretty good Arabic/English dictionary I took out from the public library. Turns out, I can read Arabic, like the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) bestowed the same gift of reading to me that he did The Prophet (PBUH) or I started to believe in myself and my abilities, that works too. Probably both, yeah, I'll say both. That works for me.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 days ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,508
@1,373,476 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I wasn't aware that "I" was a third person pronoun, but fair enough.
I wasn't aware that "I" was a third person pronoun, but fair enough.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 24 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,511
Anonymous D replied with this 3 days ago, 38 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,513
@1,373,507 (A)
> > I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
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> >> I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman, who was assigned male at birth, who also heard the call.
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> Oh, sorry about that, I'm still practicing proper comma usage.
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> I'm sorry, I do not recall reading anything in my studies that says this. Are you perhaps confusing the practice of Islam with the zeitgeist commonly found among some of those who practice the Abrahamic faiths.
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> I'm not sure what "Zen Islam" is, but please enlighten me. I've searched online and couldn't find anything about this school of thought. It does sound similar to Sufism to an extent.
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> I've only read bits and pieces of it. However, you have not experienced the Quran until you've read it in the original Arabic. Yes, that was a cheeky nod to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. I just swapped out "Shakespeare" and "Klingon." Anyway, I've been studying the language from a pretty good Arabic/English dictionary I took out from the public library. Turns out, I can read Arabic, like the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) bestowed the same gift of reading to me that he did The Prophet (PBUH) or I started to believe in myself and my abilities, that works too. Probably both, yeah, I'll say both. That works for me.
Learning Arabic is not difficult to read?
> > I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman who was assigned male at birth who also heard the call.
>
> >> I’m open to a civil dialogue from the perspective of a woman, who was assigned male at birth, who also heard the call.
>
> Oh, sorry about that, I'm still practicing proper comma usage.
>
>
> I'm sorry, I do not recall reading anything in my studies that says this. Are you perhaps confusing the practice of Islam with the zeitgeist commonly found among some of those who practice the Abrahamic faiths.
>
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> I'm not sure what "Zen Islam" is, but please enlighten me. I've searched online and couldn't find anything about this school of thought. It does sound similar to Sufism to an extent.
>
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> I've only read bits and pieces of it. However, you have not experienced the Quran until you've read it in the original Arabic. Yes, that was a cheeky nod to Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. I just swapped out "Shakespeare" and "Klingon." Anyway, I've been studying the language from a pretty good Arabic/English dictionary I took out from the public library. Turns out, I can read Arabic, like the angel Jibreel (Gabriel) bestowed the same gift of reading to me that he did The Prophet (PBUH) or I started to believe in myself and my abilities, that works too. Probably both, yeah, I'll say both. That works for me.
Learning Arabic is not difficult to read?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 9 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,514
@1,373,476 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
The inventor of Islam is infamous for marring a 6 yr old girl and then raping her. With parents permission.
Your church is infamous for being the Pedophile Catholic Church which gives a free pass to any priest that choses to rape a child.
This must be some kind of lateral thinking.
The inventor of Islam is infamous for marring a 6 yr old girl and then raping her. With parents permission.
Your church is infamous for being the Pedophile Catholic Church which gives a free pass to any priest that choses to rape a child.
This must be some kind of lateral thinking.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 24 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,515
Cathy, no. You need to return to Jesus. Islam is a pagan moon religion! It'll send you straight to hell!
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
John 14:6
Anonymous H replied with this 3 days ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,517
@previous (I)
This Jesus was dumb as all fuck. He hung out with the man that betrayed him. Clearly Jesus was not so much respected by all of his buds.
Then he lets himself stripped nude and hung out to dry to dead on a chunk of rotten wood. I doubt Cathy wants to follow in Jesus footsteps.
This Jesus was dumb as all fuck. He hung out with the man that betrayed him. Clearly Jesus was not so much respected by all of his buds.
Then he lets himself stripped nude and hung out to dry to dead on a chunk of rotten wood. I doubt Cathy wants to follow in Jesus footsteps.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 days ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,519
@previous (H)
You stupid fucking moron. That only happened because God willed it, the betrayal and crucifixion were necessary for Jesus to make his eternal sacrifice and take the burden off sin off of humanity. Do you honestly fucking thing that Judas and the Romans could have forced Jesus to do anything he didn't want to? Stupid, so stupid.
You stupid fucking moron. That only happened because God willed it, the betrayal and crucifixion were necessary for Jesus to make his eternal sacrifice and take the burden off sin off of humanity. Do you honestly fucking thing that Judas and the Romans could have forced Jesus to do anything he didn't want to? Stupid, so stupid.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 days ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,520
@previous (I)> You stupid fucking moron. That only happened because God willed it, the betrayal and crucifixion were necessary for Jesus to make his eternal sacrifice and take the burden off sin off of humanity. Do you honestly fucking thing that Judas and the Romans could have forced Jesus to do anything he didn't want to? Stupid, so stupid.
You are free to call me a moron. Consider this - IF God allows his so called Son to be abused as such. What can mortal man expect from God? Oh for a visual I offer you an example of what God gives to people currently.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 days ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,521
@previous (H)
You are really one stupid motherfucker! That """abuse""" was necessary and it was not anything that Jesus couldn't handle anyway. Moron!
You are really one stupid motherfucker! That """abuse""" was necessary and it was not anything that Jesus couldn't handle anyway. Moron!
Anonymous H replied with this 3 days ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,522
@previous (I)
Bullshit X2
Jesus cried out to God when he was on the cross, exclaiming,
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”.
This cry, spoken in Aramaic as "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani," is recorded in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark.
I notice how you ignored how 2.4 Million Starving People are crying out to Allah aka God, for food and shelter. Exactly where is this so called God?
Bullshit X2
Jesus cried out to God when he was on the cross, exclaiming,
“My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”.
This cry, spoken in Aramaic as "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani," is recorded in the Gospels of Matthew and Mark.
I notice how you ignored how 2.4 Million Starving People are crying out to Allah aka God, for food and shelter. Exactly where is this so called God?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 17 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,523
There is no god so pick whichever religion gives you the warm fuzzies inside I guess. Maybe the structure of ritual of islam will help you feel more in control of your life.
Anonymous I replied with this 3 days ago, 54 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,524
@1,373,522 (H)
Do you seriously think that Jesus wasn't in on it? You damn idiot, he was PRETENDING! He could have killed those Roman fuckers at any moment but he had to play along to finally defeat original sin...
And we Christians have a saying about your problem of evil trick- the problem of evil is actually no problem. People LITERALLY get eternal life and salvation if they submit to Jesus Christ so all worldly suffering is meaningless.
Do you seriously think that Jesus wasn't in on it? You damn idiot, he was PRETENDING! He could have killed those Roman fuckers at any moment but he had to play along to finally defeat original sin...
And we Christians have a saying about your problem of evil trick- the problem of evil is actually no problem. People LITERALLY get eternal life and salvation if they submit to Jesus Christ so all worldly suffering is meaningless.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,525
Anonymous I replied with this 3 days ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,527
Standing up for Jesus feels so good. I literally have God on my side.
Anonymous H replied with this 3 days ago, 9 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,529
@1,373,524 (I)
> Do you seriously think that Jesus wasn't in on it? You damn idiot, he was PRETENDING! He could have killed those Roman fuckers at any moment but he had to play along to finally defeat original sin...
>
> And we Christians have a saying about your problem of evil trick- the problem of evil is actually no problem. People LITERALLY get eternal life and salvation if they submit to Jesus Christ so all worldly suffering is meaningless.
That is the best you can cum up with? Jesus was PRETENDING. No question you're bait for snake oil salesmen.
So, when a child is being raped by a Catholic Priest, your answer would be the Priest in pretending to be doing it with orders from Jesus.
@1,373,525 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
> That was required to fulfill prophecy
2.4 Million people who are currently starving, are doing so to fulfill the prophecy.
Perhaps you might ask this Jesus to give you something other than Oatmeal to fuck.
> Do you seriously think that Jesus wasn't in on it? You damn idiot, he was PRETENDING! He could have killed those Roman fuckers at any moment but he had to play along to finally defeat original sin...
>
> And we Christians have a saying about your problem of evil trick- the problem of evil is actually no problem. People LITERALLY get eternal life and salvation if they submit to Jesus Christ so all worldly suffering is meaningless.
That is the best you can cum up with? Jesus was PRETENDING. No question you're bait for snake oil salesmen.
So, when a child is being raped by a Catholic Priest, your answer would be the Priest in pretending to be doing it with orders from Jesus.
@1,373,525 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
> That was required to fulfill prophecy
2.4 Million people who are currently starving, are doing so to fulfill the prophecy.
Perhaps you might ask this Jesus to give you something other than Oatmeal to fuck.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 17 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,530
Anonymous H replied with this 3 days ago, 16 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,535
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)> What prophecy is that?
Probably Snake Oil. Once popular as a cure all for Cancer and the common cold. I think IF I were to fall for a religion it would be with more colorful idols.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 19 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,539
Anonymous H replied with this 3 days ago, 21 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,540
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 3 days ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,547
Anonymous D replied with this 3 days ago, 35 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,560
@1,373,515 (I)
> Cathy, no. You need to return to Jesus. Islam is a pagan moon religion! It'll send you straight to hell!
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> Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
> John 14:6
Link to this being a Pagan moon religion?
> Cathy, no. You need to return to Jesus. Islam is a pagan moon religion! It'll send you straight to hell!
>
> Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
> John 14:6
Link to this being a Pagan moon religion?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 34 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,613
Islam is too often a gutter religion of pirates and fanatics and woman haters. It’s also good for those who like to smell the ass of the guy in front of him.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 2 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,623
Imagine being a Muslim girl
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 1 hour later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,637
@previous (M)
Muslim women tend to be pretty chill in my experience. I’ve never had problems with them.
Muslim women tend to be pretty chill in my experience. I’ve never had problems with them.
Anonymous B replied with this 3 days ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,660
@1,373,507 (A)
Zen Islam is the practice of studying gender bender anime plots and integrating them into a sharia lifestyle.
Zen Islam is the practice of studying gender bender anime plots and integrating them into a sharia lifestyle.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,674
Anonymous H replied with this 2 days ago, 15 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,832
So it just occurred to me that for Cathy to attend a Muslim service - That would require Cathy hang out in the back rows with women, because anything that looks like a woman cannot pray with men in same row.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 days ago, 38 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,373,838
I just got a new Quran OP!!!