Topic: Jaycee Dugard won 20 million from California for their failure to properly moniter Garrido.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B started this discussion 15 years ago #12,678
Now she's going after the U.S. government. I hope that she wins big.http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/01/national/main6637833.shtml
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/23/us-crime-dugard-lawsuit-idUSTRE78M03G20110923
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #227,948
I'm glad! 20 million seems a bit excessive though, all the money in the world won't change things.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,949
@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
But maybe her children will have a chance for a better life. Jaycee is ruined.
But maybe her children will have a chance for a better life. Jaycee is ruined.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 15 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,951
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 14 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,952
I really hate when people blame her for not escaping. She was 11, and kept handcuffed in a soundproof room for years. She was also serial raped and impregnated by her captor. What do they expect from her? Isolation was used on POWS and she endured it as a child.
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,954
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
People love to blame the victim because they have a hard time believing in monsters.
People love to blame the victim because they have a hard time believing in monsters.
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dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,955
> sue for 20 millionKs !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,956
Ks !KansasxqvM double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,957
@227,955 (dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46)
It is a bit much, but overall not important. The system failed her hard. She probably sued for 50 million or more, but the settlement was less.
It is a bit much, but overall not important. The system failed her hard. She probably sued for 50 million or more, but the settlement was less.
sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,958
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,962
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,963
@227,956 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
They do blame her. They like to cite that little black girl who chewed through her ropes. Like you can chew through handcuffs. Fucking morons.
They do blame her. They like to cite that little black girl who chewed through her ropes. Like you can chew through handcuffs. Fucking morons.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,964
@227,958 (sluggy)
He used to also give her cats for companionship and then take them away when she grew attached.
He used to also give her cats for companionship and then take them away when she grew attached.
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,968
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #227,970
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Yes, it was horrifying. Garrido used to take methamphetamine and rape her for hours. He called this doing a "run".
Yes, it was horrifying. Garrido used to take methamphetamine and rape her for hours. He called this doing a "run".
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,059
> Her captor, Phillip Garrido, was sentenced in June to 431 years to life in prison
> 431 years
Hmmm...
431 years * $22,000 = $9,482,000
Twenty million dollars is twice as much as what it costs to keep this man in prison and the taxpayers did no raping. That is unfair.
> 431 years
Hmmm...
431 years * $22,000 = $9,482,000
Twenty million dollars is twice as much as what it costs to keep this man in prison and the taxpayers did no raping. That is unfair.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,061
In the news reports I read it said all money won would be used only to fund a pre existing charity she founded.
Of course shs'es going to get disgustingly huge sums of money for this...but that's the American civil court system's fault, not hers.
Of course shs'es going to get disgustingly huge sums of money for this...but that's the American civil court system's fault, not hers.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 46 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,089
@228,059 (F)
Unfair to the taxpayers? Maybe. But the government fucked up and they need to fix this.
Unfair to the taxpayers? Maybe. But the government fucked up and they need to fix this.
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,090
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
To her defense, she did suffer quite heavily. She deserves the money more than our shitty bank scams.
To her defense, she did suffer quite heavily. She deserves the money more than our shitty bank scams.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,095
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She also had two children before the age of sixteen (her first at 14)without pain killers or medical care.
She also had two children before the age of sixteen (her first at 14)without pain killers or medical care.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,102
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Yeah, but does that really mean she should have a half million to spend per year for the rest of her life, and probably more than that unless she invests it poorly?
She should get something, but that's taxpayer money. It's gravy train scale money.
Yeah, but does that really mean she should have a half million to spend per year for the rest of her life, and probably more than that unless she invests it poorly?
She should get something, but that's taxpayer money. It's gravy train scale money.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,105
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,131
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Her lawyers are going after the taxpayer because the person who actually did all of those horrible things doesn't have deep pockets.
This is a grab for cash by lawyers, and it is going to get to a point where it makes her look bad. I imagine she won't care much about what I think, anyway. I would probably jump at the chance to essentially get everything I want in life paid for plus a new Rolls Royce Phantom every year.
Her lawyers are going after the taxpayer because the person who actually did all of those horrible things doesn't have deep pockets.
This is a grab for cash by lawyers, and it is going to get to a point where it makes her look bad. I imagine she won't care much about what I think, anyway. I would probably jump at the chance to essentially get everything I want in life paid for plus a new Rolls Royce Phantom every year.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,133
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,134
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,136
Anonymous I replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,138
@previous (H)
> I imagine she won't care much about what I think, anyway. I would probably jump at the chance to essentially get everything I want in life paid for plus a new Rolls Royce Phantom every year.
is not
> I think she deserves the money.
> I imagine she won't care much about what I think, anyway. I would probably jump at the chance to essentially get everything I want in life paid for plus a new Rolls Royce Phantom every year.
is not
> I think she deserves the money.
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,141
Anonymous C replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,143
That's a lotta meatballs!
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,153
@228,141 (H)
What should she get? Remember, there are also two children wrapped up in this.
What should she get? Remember, there are also two children wrapped up in this.
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sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 7 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #228,406
We essentially do this shit to animals all the time. I have a hard time accepting it is ok. If I could care about anything, I'd be vegan.
I look at it like this, we don't understand how badly the animals are suffering because we refuse to empathize with them. The fucks who kidnapped her essentially did the same thing. I think the woman involved is probably mentally damaged, but thats cause I'm the product of a sexist society that makes it easy to accept a man could control a woman absolutely and she has no mind of her own.
I look at it like this, we don't understand how badly the animals are suffering because we refuse to empathize with them. The fucks who kidnapped her essentially did the same thing. I think the woman involved is probably mentally damaged, but thats cause I'm the product of a sexist society that makes it easy to accept a man could control a woman absolutely and she has no mind of her own.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 11 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #228,620
@previous (sluggy)
Both the man (Phillip Garrido), and woman (Nancy Garrido) had mental issues. In fact, when Phillip went to jail for months, his wife took care of the victim in his absence.
Both the man (Phillip Garrido), and woman (Nancy Garrido) had mental issues. In fact, when Phillip went to jail for months, his wife took care of the victim in his absence.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #229,051
How is it the state's fault? I don't get it.