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> > I predict pilot error and/or lack of maintenance as the major contributing factors. > > Pilot error confirmed. Flaps were in the wrong position for takeoff.
Mechanical failure of the flaps and electrical failure due to lack of proper maintenance and/or forgery of maintenance documents by the Air India engineers.
Pilot error due to failure to properly complete takeoff checklist before departure, and failing to adhere to safety requirements.
Cultural issues in Air India due to failure to implement CRM procedures in the cockpit.
Anonymous K replied with this 3 days ago, 39 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,371,328
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
There's a video made by one of the passengers in the cabin before takeoff, showing that basic electrical systems were not working properly, e.g. the aircon, entertainment system, lights etc. Apparently this is commonplace for Air India, and they ignored it as usual. Very likely the problem extended to the flight control system too - maybe the first officer tried to extend the flaps to 5 degrees but nothing happened.
Anonymous F replied with this 3 days ago, 39 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,371,335
The one living passenger said he knew something was amiss when the plane came to a total halt after takeoff. He felt the stall that put him in the hospital.
> Flaps up which pushes air for resistance so plane GOES DOWN DOWN.
Wouldn't those be spoilers? As I understand it, flaps do basically the same thing whether taking off or landing (not neccessarily with the same setting however), which is to increase both lift and drag. The flaps being "up" would just mean they're in the neutral position, suitable for high-speed cruising flight.
Anonymous K replied with this 1 day ago, 12 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,371,586
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No, the spoilers were not raised - you would have seen them in the video, despite the grainy quality. A little bit of flaps helps increase lift at take-off.
What there is evidence of, however, is that the Ram air turbine was deployed, which is an emergency generator. This implies there was a massive electrical failure and/or duel engine failure.
The bang heard by the passenger, as well as the lights flickering makes sense as this it what happens when the RAT deploys.