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But I just find it kinda strange as a black dude that this white dude thinks he’s biologically smarter than black people, but he doesn’t know how IQ scores work.
Like when he says "Whites have a mean IQ of 100" that’s literally how IQ is defined. A score of 100 is always the average score. That’s what the scale is based on.
Also his first paragraph is just a mess:
"Oriental populations in East Asia and North America typically have mean IQs falling between 101 to 111. White populations in Europe, South Africa, Australasia, and North America have mean IQs of from 85 to 115, with an overall mean of 100. Black populations living south of the Sahara, in the Caribbean, in Britain, and in North America, average IQs of from 70 to 90."
He says that Asians have "means that fall" between 101 and 111. I assume he means the means of countries. But if you just take the mean average of 101 and 111, that would imply Asians have a mean IQ of 106, which is higher than the mean IQ he cites for whites. But he’s arguing that blacks are inferior to whites for having a lower mean IQ, but he’s not arguing that whites are inferior to Asians even though he could by the same logic.
He also says black IQs fall between 70 to 90, but he says white IQs fall between 85 to 115, which means that the IQ ranges he cites for black and white IQs overlap, which means he would be acknowledging the existence of black people who are smarter than some white people. Which would be a counter argument against treating people unfairly based on their race.
I just find it weird a guy who’s that stupid is convinced he’s smart.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 days ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#1,367,866
It’s also kind of stupid in another way, which is, if he’s citing an IQ test that was made by a white person, where whites scored 100 on average, but non-whites don’t score 100 on average, that means the test is culturally biased and isn’t an accurate measure of intelligence. Because by definition 100 is always the mean IQ. But did he think about that?
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 3 days ago, 11 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,367,872
@1,367,866 (A)
Or at the very least if you’re measuring the IQ of more than one culture, you’re supposed to calibrate it so the average of everyone you tested is 100. And if Africans really were lower IQ than whites by that much, the average score of whites wouldn’t be 100 unless Asians scored significantly higher than whites in order to offset the average. But his numbers don’t show that. His numbers look like somebody calibrated an IQ test for a smaller sample size of people living in white countries, then gave the IQ test to non-whites and never adjusted the average, which is not how you’re supposed to do it in the first place.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 3 days ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,367,875
And then the fact that he cites such a large range of white IQs that vary by 30 points compared to black IQs that vary by 20 points and Asian IQs that vary by 10 points, that doesn’t make any sense if IQ is really biology determined. Since blacks are more genetically diverse than whites and whites are more genetically diverse than Asians. Which suggests they might not have used the same sample size of people for each of the three racial groups, which sort of lines up with the theory that they calibrated the score based on only the whites who were tested.
Anonymous A (OP) sextuple-posted this 3 days ago, 7 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,367,879
And then the whole idea that somebody with an IQ of 70 must be unbelievably dumb compared to somebody with an IQ of 100 isn’t correct. Someone with an IQ of 70 isn’t 70% as intelligent as someone with a 100 IQ. It’s based on standard deviations from the mean, which is completely dependent on who you chose as your sample.
Anonymous A (OP) septuple-posted this 3 days ago, 7 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,367,880
There’s also just the obvious question of, hypothetically, someone tests the IQ of everyone in Nigeria. And they come back, they say the average IQ is 70. If they were really only testing Nigerians, the average IQ would be 100, because that’s how the scale works by definition. So if you show up in some country, start testing IQs in that country, and you come up with a mean score for that country that’s not 100, then what are you actually doing there? If someone in Japan for example, wanted to test the IQs of Japanese people, the average IQ of everyone in Japan would be 100 because that’s how it works. That’s literally how the scale is supposed to be use. So if you say the average isn’t 100, then what the hell does that even mean?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 days ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,367,893
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
On some level, nothing matters if you want to get philosophical. If you doubt me, your inquisition implies you don’t completely disbelieve me, otherwise you’d have no reason to bother asking.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 days ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,367,897
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I can think of more than one reason why’d you’d want to know the answer to that question and none of them are really in my interest.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 3 days ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,367,905
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I don’t. But you can tell me if you want to tell me. The problem is you have a reason not to tell me and I know that because you don’t tell me. The fact that you have a reason not to tell me doesn’t tell me what you want, but it tells me enough about what you want that I don’t trust you.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 3 days ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,906
There has to be something in it for me, I don’t see any signs that there is anything positive in it for me, so I don’t see why you’d expect me to not realize that.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 4 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,949
@previous (D)
If intelligence was biologically determined, and Africans have more genetic diversity than the rest of the world combined, how would it be possible for all Africans to actually be less intelligent? Two black Africans can be more genetically different from each other than a French person and a Korean person. If that were actually true that all Africans were less intelligent, a genetic explanation wouldn’t make sense.
Obviously there are more Indians and Chinese because India and China each have a population comparable to all African nations combined. But if Africans are actually less intelligent than Asians, how come there are more Nigerian international students in the United States than Japanese international students despite Japan having a GDP per capita that’s 20 times higher than Nigeria?
And if Asians are really smarter than white people, and white people are really smarter than black peoples, how come China has more African international students than European international students?
Anonymous E double-posted this 3 days ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,950
If whites are smarter than blacks, and the Chinese government is authoritarian and they have no reason to be accountable to diversity or anything, and they want the smartest people, if "blacks are all dumb" was a fact, why would they ever admit more Africans than Europeans? And in addition to that, if the reasons why there are fewer blacks in college is actually biologically determined instead of socially determined, why does China have more African international students than the United States does? If Asians are smarter than whites, shouldn’t it be easier for blacks to get into universities full of whites than it is to get into universities full of Asians? Like make it make sense.
Anonymous E triple-posted this 3 days ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,951
Is it really the case that Africans are dumb, or is it the case that whites tell themselves that the reasons why the poorest continent in the world is poor is because people who had less access to education by virtue of being poor are just poor because they scored low on a test. Instead of thinking, maybe the reason why they scored low on a test is because they’re from countries that are the poorest countries in the world due to colonial exploitation by whites. But if whites actually thought that way they might have to acknowledge the demographic advantage Africa has that will benefit Africa over the rest of the world for the next couple hundred years the same way Russia and China have instead of just judging Africans to feel better about your own pathetic state.
Anonymous E quadruple-posted this 3 days ago, 25 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,955
It just blows my mind how white people will ignore so much in favor of a number while having no idea what that number even means in the first place just so you can feel superior to people who are better than you without exerting effort to accomplish anything. It’s so fucking lazy.
Anonymous E quintuple-posted this 3 days ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,956
And how come if white people are smarter than blacks, none of you fucking white people have even the slightest counter argument for anything I’ve said? You can’t dispute a single thing I’ve said. Why is that?
boof joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,959
Well here's my familiar line -- IQ was developed as a predictive tool for students future success in school. The ol' saying goes that IQ is the second best predictor for that. The first best predictor is past success in school.
Anonymous G replied with this 3 days ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,963
All I’m saying is Europeans have a lot more money, they have much better access to education, they have better opportunities to learn Mandarin, it’s a little weird despite all those advantages there would be fewer of them getting in. Especially if Europeans really were that much smarter than black people.
Anonymous G double-posted this 3 days ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,964
It’s almost as if, blacks would do better if they weren’t in a society dominated by Europeans trying to hold them back, or something. But who knows, maybe all blacks are actually just stupid and white people don’t use that as an excuse to not feel guilty about what they did to Africa. 🤷♂️
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 3 days ago, 27 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,367,967
It’s also kinda dumb when you think about it, 2% of people have an IQ of 70 or lower by definition, because that’s how the scale works. Africa has double the population of Europe, so it’s literally not possible for 2/3rds of a population to be less intelligent than 98% of the population, because that adds up to 164.67%, which is more than 100%. 2/3rds of people can be dumber than a third of people.