Topic: >Go to Subway..
green started this discussion 15 years ago #12,617
> All meats are halal.
> Walk out.
> Walk out.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later[^] [v] #226,515
do you know what halal means?
sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #226,522
dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #226,523
oh no the cows are killed slightly less inhumane than normally what will we do
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #226,539
Fuck that. Fuck stupid dietary restrictions of all sorts.dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #226,540
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,543
@previous (dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46)
I believe strongly in the power of ham and cheese sandwiches being easily available to a hungry populace.
I believe strongly in the power of ham and cheese sandwiches being easily available to a hungry populace.
dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,544
swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,556
Why would you walk out over that? I'm an atheist and I wouldn't leave over Halal or Kosher dining.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,573
What is Halal?
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,576
@previous (G)
Halal (Arabic: Øلال‎ ḥalÄl) is a term designating people unable to use search engines to find information.
Halal (Arabic: Øلال‎ ḥalÄl) is a term designating people unable to use search engines to find information.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,578
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,586
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,587
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,588
@226,586 (green)
Then if I were you I would abstain from almost all meat. Most animals raised for food consumption lead horrible and tortured lives.
Then if I were you I would abstain from almost all meat. Most animals raised for food consumption lead horrible and tortured lives.
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,590
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I trust 'Tesco Freedom Food' and 'Sainsbury Free Range' thank you very much.
I trust 'Tesco Freedom Food' and 'Sainsbury Free Range' thank you very much.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,601
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,604
@226,586 (green)
It can take several tries and minutes for western slaughter methods (bolt through the brain) to kill the animal. Halal involves perforating the jugular artery, causing the animal to lose conciousness within seconds.
It can take several tries and minutes for western slaughter methods (bolt through the brain) to kill the animal. Halal involves perforating the jugular artery, causing the animal to lose conciousness within seconds.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,606
dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,607
halal is also not just method of slaughter but also a method of keeping animals
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,623
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,626
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,631
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,634
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,636
@226,631 (green)
But you knew that Subway didn't serve free range meat beforehand and you were still willing to eat there. The fact that you won't because it's Halal is very strange. Will you even be able to eat out again?
But you knew that Subway didn't serve free range meat beforehand and you were still willing to eat there. The fact that you won't because it's Halal is very strange. Will you even be able to eat out again?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,638
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,642
@226,636 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
> The fact that you won't because it's Halal is very strange.
It's because he's a fucking idiot retard who is prejudiced against a religion to such a degree that he is willing to punish himself to divorce him from any situation that might in any way benefit anyone of that religion.
> The fact that you won't because it's Halal is very strange.
It's because he's a fucking idiot retard who is prejudiced against a religion to such a degree that he is willing to punish himself to divorce him from any situation that might in any way benefit anyone of that religion.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,644
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,648
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
This is why I think I'm better than most people. I'm surrounded by mouthbreathers like OP.
This is why I think I'm better than most people. I'm surrounded by mouthbreathers like OP.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,650
@previous (J)
lol That's mean! Just because you think something doesn't mean that you should say it.
lol That's mean! Just because you think something doesn't mean that you should say it.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,651
@226,604 (J)
You're seriously of the opinion that cutting open the throat of a conscious animal is more humane than stunning and killing it with a bolt gun to the head? Wow.
You're seriously of the opinion that cutting open the throat of a conscious animal is more humane than stunning and killing it with a bolt gun to the head? Wow.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,654
The Editor !FuckWtfW8M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,655
Burn them.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,659
@226,654 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method, so I really can't make that assessment. I have a feeling that I would much rather be knocked out and killed than have my throat cut halfway through while I was conscious though.
I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method, so I really can't make that assessment. I have a feeling that I would much rather be knocked out and killed than have my throat cut halfway through while I was conscious though.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,660
@226,651 (E)
Yes. One causes loss of conciousness within seconds. The other requires the animal be electrocuted and shot with a bolt gun, which often fails to kill immediately.
I notice that you're simply calling me wrong and implying insults rather than saying why I'm wrong. Very poor form. I shan't be debating someone who opens like that. Good day.
Yes. One causes loss of conciousness within seconds. The other requires the animal be electrocuted and shot with a bolt gun, which often fails to kill immediately.
I notice that you're simply calling me wrong and implying insults rather than saying why I'm wrong. Very poor form. I shan't be debating someone who opens like that. Good day.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,663
@226,659 (E)
I don't know if I would care either way. I'd still be dead and besides I don't think cows get contemplative.
I don't know if I would care either way. I'd still be dead and besides I don't think cows get contemplative.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,669
Ok, hang on a minute.
> I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method, so I really can't make that assessment.
And yet you can decide that one is more humane than the other, LOL. I've visited slaughterhouses dealing in both types. Western meat production is very cruel throughout. Halal is not much better, but is still marginally so.
> I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method, so I really can't make that assessment.
And yet you can decide that one is more humane than the other, LOL. I've visited slaughterhouses dealing in both types. Western meat production is very cruel throughout. Halal is not much better, but is still marginally so.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,674
@226,660 (J)
LOL
@226,663 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I doubt the cows are aware of much. If the interest in "humane" killing is minimizing pain and suffering, then I would probably go with stunning and killing.
LOL
@226,663 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I doubt the cows are aware of much. If the interest in "humane" killing is minimizing pain and suffering, then I would probably go with stunning and killing.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,677
@previous (E)
> If the interest in "humane" killing is minimizing pain and suffering, then I would probably go with stunning and killing.
> I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method
> Yet I know exactly which one is more humane
> LOL
> I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method
> I just decided what I believed and now structure my thinking around proving myself right, ignoring everything else to the contrary, rather than actually do some thinking and investigate something before formulating an opinion.
> I am not rational.
> I have nothing to say.
> If the interest in "humane" killing is minimizing pain and suffering, then I would probably go with stunning and killing.
> I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method
> Yet I know exactly which one is more humane
> LOL
> I've never worked in a slaughterhouse subscribing to either method
> I just decided what I believed and now structure my thinking around proving myself right, ignoring everything else to the contrary, rather than actually do some thinking and investigate something before formulating an opinion.
> I am not rational.
> I have nothing to say.
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swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,679
@226,674 (E)
I think that we should pay much more attention to how food animals are raised rather than killed. What's more important, the first months of an animals life or the last minutes?
I think that we should pay much more attention to how food animals are raised rather than killed. What's more important, the first months of an animals life or the last minutes?
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,680
@226,677 (J)
What do I have go on? Your expert evidence after assuring me that you thoroughly visited multiple slaughterhouses to make your own professional assessment? I trust during these visits you have interviewed the dying cattle to assess they were conscious and in pain for no more than a few seconds on each occasion? Can I assume that you have conducted follow-up research into the nature of bovine conscious and the perception of pain and are fully qualified to comment on the time and extent of suffering involved in various methods of slaughter? No. I can't. From you I have only the vague assurances of some guy on the Internet claiming he knows what is best for cattle. Away with you vile simpleton!
What do I have go on? Your expert evidence after assuring me that you thoroughly visited multiple slaughterhouses to make your own professional assessment? I trust during these visits you have interviewed the dying cattle to assess they were conscious and in pain for no more than a few seconds on each occasion? Can I assume that you have conducted follow-up research into the nature of bovine conscious and the perception of pain and are fully qualified to comment on the time and extent of suffering involved in various methods of slaughter? No. I can't. From you I have only the vague assurances of some guy on the Internet claiming he knows what is best for cattle. Away with you vile simpleton!
Anonymous E double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,682
@226,679 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Yeah, I would generally agree with that. Conditions for most animals raised for food are pretty disturbing.
Yeah, I would generally agree with that. Conditions for most animals raised for food are pretty disturbing.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,683
The only part that really matters to me is how the meat is cut and prepared. If it's too thin or thick it won't cook properly, and no one wants their steaks cooked poorly.
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,684
@226,680 (E)
I gave my opinion and justified it with my own experiences. You called me names and later admitted that you've never actually seen either of the two procedures.
You've failed to sway my point of view.
I gave my opinion and justified it with my own experiences. You called me names and later admitted that you've never actually seen either of the two procedures.
You've failed to sway my point of view.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,687
@226,682 (E)
I also hate how most of our food animals are kept so that they shit all over each other. That fucking grosses me out.
I also hate how most of our food animals are kept so that they shit all over each other. That fucking grosses me out.
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,689
@226,684 (J)
Matt is a dumbass and thinks he's smarter than everyone. Just don't feed his trolls and he'll get drunk and pass out.
Matt is a dumbass and thinks he's smarter than everyone. Just don't feed his trolls and he'll get drunk and pass out.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,690
@226,684 (J)
Nonsense. I am simply of the opinion that being stunned and killed is preferable to having your throat sliced open while conscious. I feel this is not an entirely irrational view. While I've never actually experienced either of those things, I have a good idea which one likely involves more pain and suffering.
Nonsense. I am simply of the opinion that being stunned and killed is preferable to having your throat sliced open while conscious. I feel this is not an entirely irrational view. While I've never actually experienced either of those things, I have a good idea which one likely involves more pain and suffering.
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,691
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,692
@226,690 (E)
> I have a good idea which one likely involves more pain and suffering.
Based on what? Here's a cool way to test the non-lethal part of Western slaughter - go get tasered.
@226,689 (M)
I'm not even Matt, so dry those eyes.
> I have a good idea which one likely involves more pain and suffering.
Based on what? Here's a cool way to test the non-lethal part of Western slaughter - go get tasered.
@226,689 (M)
I'm not even Matt, so dry those eyes.
dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,693
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 53 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,694
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,696
@previous (M)
It's also what everybody who isn't Matt would say. That's a pretty shit test for detecting Matt you got.
It's also what everybody who isn't Matt would say. That's a pretty shit test for detecting Matt you got.
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,697
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,699
green (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,700
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,701
@226,699 (green)
Maybe. I'm sure that you've eaten at a lot of places that don't use free range meat. Almost no restaurant does.
Maybe. I'm sure that you've eaten at a lot of places that don't use free range meat. Almost no restaurant does.
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,703
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,705
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,706
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,710
@226,692 (J)
> Based on what?
Based on the idea that I'd rather not be conscious while suffering. On the other side, I have only your stated opinion that slitting throats is more humane. You have offered no evidence to sway me at all. It's pretty easy call from here.
> Based on what?
Based on the idea that I'd rather not be conscious while suffering. On the other side, I have only your stated opinion that slitting throats is more humane. You have offered no evidence to sway me at all. It's pretty easy call from here.
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,711
green (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,713
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,716
@226,710 (E)
> Based on the idea that I'd rather not be conscious while suffering.
That's because you would have awareness that your throat was about to be slit, causing mental anguish. Cows have no such awareness, and the process also causes death very quickly -- within 15 seconds.
Sources:
Time of loss of brain responsiveness following exsanguination in calves, Gregory, G.; Wotton, S.D. (1984)
Blackmore, D.K. 1984. Differences in behavior between sheep and cattle during slaughter. Research in Veterinary Science. 37:223-226.
Grandin, T. 2010. Improving Animal Welfare: A Practical Approach. CABI Publishing, UK.
Gregory, N.G. and Wotton, S.B. 1984a. Sheep slaughtering procedures - II: Time to loss of brain responsiveness after exsanguination or cardiac arrest. British Veterinary Journal. 140:354-260.
Gregory, N.G., Fielding, H.R., von Wenzlawowicz, M., and von Hollenben, K. 2010.Time to collapse following slaughter without stunning. Meat Science. 85:66-69.
> Based on the idea that I'd rather not be conscious while suffering.
That's because you would have awareness that your throat was about to be slit, causing mental anguish. Cows have no such awareness, and the process also causes death very quickly -- within 15 seconds.
Sources:
Time of loss of brain responsiveness following exsanguination in calves, Gregory, G.; Wotton, S.D. (1984)
Blackmore, D.K. 1984. Differences in behavior between sheep and cattle during slaughter. Research in Veterinary Science. 37:223-226.
Grandin, T. 2010. Improving Animal Welfare: A Practical Approach. CABI Publishing, UK.
Gregory, N.G. and Wotton, S.B. 1984a. Sheep slaughtering procedures - II: Time to loss of brain responsiveness after exsanguination or cardiac arrest. British Veterinary Journal. 140:354-260.
Gregory, N.G., Fielding, H.R., von Wenzlawowicz, M., and von Hollenben, K. 2010.Time to collapse following slaughter without stunning. Meat Science. 85:66-69.
Anonymous J double-posted this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,717
@226,711 (green)
Cry harder, homosexual. I hope everywhere starts using Halal meat so you starve to death.
Cry harder, homosexual. I hope everywhere starts using Halal meat so you starve to death.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,718
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,719
Hey Green, is the Kosher method of slaughter more humane than the Halal method?
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,721
Anonymous J replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,722
green (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,723
@226,719 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
There are very few jews in the UK. I don't even know what kosher is.
There are very few jews in the UK. I don't even know what kosher is.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 24 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,727
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,729
ITT: people defending an archaic, barbaric religion and its inane rituals. Get with the times and support Atheism.
Anonymous N double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,731
@OP
Who are you quoting?
Who are you quoting?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,732
orc !WBRXcNtpf. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,736
> reading thread
> ok
> I made peanut butter and bacon fudge.
> Yes.
> ok
> I made peanut butter and bacon fudge.
> Yes.
Anonymous N replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,737
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,739
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 3 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,855
@226,716 (J)
I don't know that those research articles have helped. Temple Grandin states outright that "Slaughter without stunning is controversial from an animal welfare standpoint." While Grandin argues that smaller animals like sheep and goats "will be insensible within 10 seconds", there are still problems with kosher and halal killing when it goes perfectly. (which it doesn't always)
From a summary in Grandin's Welfare During Slaughter without stunning (Kosher or Halal) differences between Sheep and Cattle:
This is a far cry from the mere seconds you seem to claim it takes. Did you read these before citing them?
I don't know that those research articles have helped. Temple Grandin states outright that "Slaughter without stunning is controversial from an animal welfare standpoint." While Grandin argues that smaller animals like sheep and goats "will be insensible within 10 seconds", there are still problems with kosher and halal killing when it goes perfectly. (which it doesn't always)
From a summary in Grandin's Welfare During Slaughter without stunning (Kosher or Halal) differences between Sheep and Cattle:
Calves and cattle take a longer period of time to become insensible and they are more likely to have a prolonged period of insensibility. The time to loss of insensibility when good cutting technique is used will range from 17 sec to 85 sec (Blackmore 1984, Blackmore et al 1983, Gregory and Wotton, 1984, Grandin 2010, Daly et al 1988, Gregory et al 2010). Some cattle may have prolonged periods of sensibility lasting up to 385 seconds (Blackmore, 1984).
This is a far cry from the mere seconds you seem to claim it takes. Did you read these before citing them?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,857
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,860
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Her latest, Animals Make Us Human? No, I haven't seen it anywhere. Temple Grandin is hilariously interesting. I don't know why we don't talk about her more.
Her latest, Animals Make Us Human? No, I haven't seen it anywhere. Temple Grandin is hilariously interesting. I don't know why we don't talk about her more.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,862
@previous (E)
I haven't read that one yet! I love how she's celibate because she doesn't understand sexual attraction.
I haven't read that one yet! I love how she's celibate because she doesn't understand sexual attraction.
Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,865
Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,866
Jesus, green, just eat the goddamn meat.
Does the suffering of the animal really matter though? Once it dies all existence ends and the animal is blissfully unaware that it ever existed or suffered. And yes, I feel the same way about human suffering too.
Does the suffering of the animal really matter though? Once it dies all existence ends and the animal is blissfully unaware that it ever existed or suffered. And yes, I feel the same way about human suffering too.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,867
@226,862 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I can see where it would be confusing for someone with high-functioning autism. I am reminded a little of Penelope Trunk's blogging about sex with Asperger's.
I can see where it would be confusing for someone with high-functioning autism. I am reminded a little of Penelope Trunk's blogging about sex with Asperger's.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,868
@226,866 (Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2.)
So you would be okay with being tortured, and having your eyes torn out?
So you would be okay with being tortured, and having your eyes torn out?
Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,869
Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,870
@previous (Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2.)
You wouldn't care once your were die, you wouldn't feel anything. That doesn't make suffering irrelevant.
You wouldn't care once your were die, you wouldn't feel anything. That doesn't make suffering irrelevant.
Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,871
Anonymous Q replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,875
@previous (Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2.)
So, would you have no objection to torturing yourself or someone you loved when they were close to death?
So, would you have no objection to torturing yourself or someone you loved when they were close to death?
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swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 57 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,876
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,877
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,883
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Some light hearted Aspie comedy she links to in that blog that may make you giggle.
Some light hearted Aspie comedy she links to in that blog that may make you giggle.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,884
Chris Tomkinson !UoVHVa1d2. replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,915
@226,875 (Q)
I never said torture was good, I just said that after someone has died what suffering they went through is irrelevant.
I never said torture was good, I just said that after someone has died what suffering they went through is irrelevant.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 44 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,937
Is anon j a troll or Aspie? His arguments were correct but not really relevant to anon e.
Was his rage deliberate trolling or just an inability to understand why anon e was saying what he was saying?
Was his rage deliberate trolling or just an inability to understand why anon e was saying what he was saying?
Anonymous R double-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,941
Also no one has brought up the halal certification associations so I just did.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,955
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #226,983
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Many people don't like them lol. idk. There have been various accusation of rampant corruption, intimidation, and links to terrorist organizations.
Many people don't like them lol. idk. There have been various accusation of rampant corruption, intimidation, and links to terrorist organizations.
sluggy replied with this 15 years ago, 2 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #227,061
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #227,107
Halal is the beginning of Islamic Assimilation.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #227,110
dreamworksage !AUIkTW/L46 replied with this 15 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #227,269
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