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Topic: Polish Catholic believe heart muscle on communion wafer
sluggy started this discussion 15 years ago#12,614
You can't make this up.
After a host fell on the ground during a mass in 2008 a dark spot appeared. Two doctors determine it was heart-muscle tissue. lol. Doesn't say how they determined that. Probably from being stupid.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,352
I don't understand this post at all. Can you explain it in a different way?
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,354
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
A communion wafer fell on the ground during a mass in the year 2008 in Poland. This was a consecrated host, so it was literally the body of Christ (Catholics believe that the host turns into the actual body of Christ. It's really his flesh).
They believed the smudge it got from falling on the ground was heart-muscle tissue. Now, keep in mind billions of hosts are turned into Jesus each year and they never change. Two medical doctors determined the black mark was heart-muscle tissue. How? The article didnt say: I'm guessing they're just dumb.
It's funny because I remember reading about a guy who in gradeschool suggested testing communion wafers before and after they were consecrated. He was punished for suggesting such blashphemy (lol).
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,359
@previous (sluggy)
So a consecrated communion wafer fell on the ground,and got dirty. So everyone assumed that it was actual body tissue? WTF?
Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 0 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,360
I believe it, personally.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,361
@226,354 (sluggy)
Why is testing communion wafers considered to be blasphemous?
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,362
@226,360 (Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o)
Really? You believe that the communion grew heart-muscle tissue?
You might be retarded.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,363
Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,367
@226,362 (sluggy)
Yes. I believe that, in the Mass, the wafer changes from the bread, to the body of Christ. So, I think anything is possible.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,368
@226,361 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I learned this early in school, if you ask questions of religion its blasphemous. That's how religion combats reality, any non-complete acceptance without question is blasphemy.
I asked something (don't even remember what) and I was sent to the principle's office. I wasnt being smart or trying to be clever. I asked a sincere question. I was young and still believed then. I remember asking what I did wrong and the principle (a nun) just gave me a dirty look. I was close to being in tears. She left a message on my answering machine at home telling my mom how I was disruptive in class. I deleted the message before she heard it. Im pretty sure that message wasn't for my mom at all. She made the call right in front of me.
Lol. Catholicism.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,369
@226,367 (Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o)
You think that it actually turns into human flesh?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,370
@226,368 (sluggy)
That's just horrible. For how long were you in Catholic schools?
Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,371
@226,369 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It does in essence, yes, normally. There are some rare occasions, such as this, where it also changes in speciation.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,372
@226,370 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Grades 1 - 12. I don't recommend it. The teachers don't need to be certified. I had my ADHD missed cause of stupid teachers (preschool even -- I was in preschool and we were doing our weeky readers and the teacher said "what is the a picture of" I raised my hand and she called on me and I said, overly excitedly "tomato, tomato!" she yelled at me and made me sit away from everyone else. Then the pretty teacher walked in and asked why I was sitting off to the side and the mean teacher said "he was being bad." I mean. I didnt even do anything wrong except probably be kind of loud. Early education teachers can't take their shit out on kids like that) but I had many instances where I feel my teachers failed. The biggest failure being when another student said that I might ha e ADHD and the teacher said "no, I think you're just lazy." I consider finding her and doing serious harm to her. I didn't say anything to my mom cause she said that. My life could have been completely different. That was freshman year. One day I'll get justice.
Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,373
@previous (sluggy)
That is terrible, I agree. Those teachers were wrong.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,374
@226,371 (Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o)
It doesn't change. Sorry. It's not possible. The whole Jesus mythos is lifted from other myths. The concept is ludicrous, and there are no writings from Jesus, no writings existing from when he was alive that mention him or someone like him.
Really, you need to ask "what evidence supports this."
Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,375
@previous (sluggy)
Jesus said, "Unless you eat my flesh, and drink my blood, you cannot be my disciple."
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,377
@previous (Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o)
Yea, that was adopted from pagan rituals of blood drinking. It didn't actually happen.
Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,381
@previous (sluggy)
Not true. Sure, blood and flesh have always been symbols of life, but maybe they actually ARE symbols of life, eternally, and Jesus acknowledged that.
sluggy (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#226,387
@previous (Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o)
Who? Oh, that guy who maybe didnt even exist?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#226,395
@226,371 (Timbukseven !!x5PDbrn3o)
What do you mean by " in essence"? Also, it does sometimes turn into real flesh?