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@1,364,777 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
If there's one thing the US makes and exports to the rest of the world at a huge trade surplus in favor of the US it's movies and TV shows lol. He is so stupid you literally could not say something dumber than what he actually believes even if you spent a lifetime trying.
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@1,364,814 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
You posed Trump hurting an industry that his base hates as "stupid".
What's the smart thing for Trump to do? Support a media machine that is against him, maybe increase funding for NPR and their board of 87 democrats and 0 republicans.
This whole thing is just like the tariffs. "dO rEpUbLiCaNs NoT rEaLiZe ThAt ThIs WiLl InCrEaSe CoStS?" they do, and that's the point.
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Hollywood would only indirectly be hurt by tariffing foreign films because foreign films are obviously not made by or in Hollywood by definition.
You are conflating the media and Hollywood because it's the kind of intellectually stunted thing Trump (who is loved by the only actually popular cable news company) does.
Trump is putting tariffs on everything. He isn't just hurting specific groups of Americans for personal reasons (which would be tyrannical), he is fucking over literally everyone.
> Hollywood would only indirectly be hurt by tariffing foreign films because foreign films are obviously not made by or in Hollywood by definition.
So what? They're hurt nonetheless, and he doesn't have any tools that could punish them unilaterally. Congress is slow, this is better than nothing.
> You are conflating the media and Hollywood because it's the kind of intellectually stunted thing Trump (who is loved by the only actually popular cable news company) does.
Most people get their worldview from hollywood, not some rigorous analysis of the news.
> Trump is putting tariffs on everything. He isn't just hurting specific groups of Americans for personal reasons (which would be tyrannical), he is fucking over literally everyone.
He's fucking over capital who can't offshore jobs like they could before, and who don't have imported slave labor for hard jobs.
His blanket tariffs are 10%. The economy can churn on, and there is a big reason to have production here. Working-class citizens are the ones who will benefit.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 days ago, 28 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,364,824
@previous (A) > So what? They're hurt nonetheless, and he doesn't have any tools that could punish them unilaterally. Congress is slow, this is better than nothing.
He does have many tools. He is just a moron. You aren't, and the US government is not his personal grievance machine.
> Most people get their worldview from hollywood, not some rigorous analysis of the news.
No. Even if that were true, Trump winning the popular vote would mean that most people got the idea to vote for Trump from Hollywood telling them to (which obviously you don't believe).
> He's fucking over capital who can't offshore jobs like they could before, and who don't have imported slave labor for hard jobs.
No he's fucking over everyone that does anything other than produce and sell entirely within the US, which is most of the US economy. There is no way to fuck over most of the US economy and have no serious downsides, obviously.
> His blanket tariffs are 10%. The economy can churn on, and there is a big reason to have production here. Working-class citizens are the ones who will benefit.
It can churn on or it could not, and the first people who get laid off will be people who are the most powerless ans expendable (i.e. the poor and working class).
Michael F. Miller Jr., a vice president at the International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees, who oversees film and television production for the union, said that roughly 18,000 full-time jobs have evaporated in the past three years, primarily in California.
“We are allowing California to become to the entertainment industry what Detroit has become to the auto industry,” Miller said.
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“This is an existential crisis — it’s an extinction event,” said Beau Flynn, a producer of big-budget movies like “San Andreas,” which despite being about an earthquake in California was filmed mostly in Australia. “These are real things. I am not a dramatist, even though I’m in the drama field.”
Productions have been filmed outside the United States for decades, but rarely has Hollywood work been so bustling overseas at a time when work in Hollywood itself has been so scant. Studios in European countries are bursting at the seams, industry workers say. And film and television production in Los Angeles is down by more than one-third over the past 10 years, according to FilmLA data.
Film and TV production in LA is down one third over the past ten years. If you're one of the little people that does all the behind the scenes stuff (not the people who have their names listed on the movie posters), you're looking at an industry that is in a bad recession for years now, even though the broader industry is doing okay.
Now I don't think at all that a tariff is going to fix it, even if we did tariff foreign films they'll just move it to some southern state with big tax breaks and right-to-work laws (and how would you tariff that?).
> >So what? They're hurt nonetheless, and he doesn't have any tools that could punish them unilaterally. Congress is slow, this is better than nothing. > He does have many tools.
For example? > He is just a moron. You aren't, and the US government is not his personal grievance machine.
This is how politics works, the democrats do it too. > >Most people get their worldview from hollywood, not some rigorous analysis of the news. > No. Even if that were true, Trump winning the popular vote would mean that most people got the idea to vote for Trump from Hollywood telling them to (which obviously you don't believe).
Propaganda only takes you so far. > >He's fucking over capital who can't offshore jobs like they could before, and who don't have imported slave labor for hard jobs. > No he's fucking over everyone that does anything other than produce and sell entirely within the US, which is most of the US economy. There is no way to fuck over most of the US economy and have no serious downsides, obviously.
They can find ways to bring the money back home, or they can pay a 10% duty. > >His blanket tariffs are 10%. The economy can churn on, and there is a big reason to have production here. Working-class citizens are the ones who will benefit. > It can churn on or it could not, and the first people who get laid off will be people who are the most powerless ans expendable (i.e. the poor and working class).
No, they aren't firing the people who actually do the work. If they do, they will have to hire another immediately.
They have an excuse to fire a lot of unproductive office employees now. DEI will get you sued, so they are gone. AI can automate a lot of repetitive simple tasks office workers do, and they are more expensive to keep on payroll. A recession is an easy excuse to do layoffs, and everyone is distracted by all the other companies doing it at the same time to face much PR backlash.