Topic: Blocked on Instagram...
Matt Jr. started this discussion 1 week ago #125,911
I didn't even get mad at her or anything, all I did was send a lengthy message explaining how when we became friends I had no intention of pursuing her romantically, but I eventually caught feelings and my mindset shifted from just being myself and not giving a shit with her to reading into every single thing she said, trying to manipulate her into loving me, and how I was having paranoid delusions that I was the central character of a Truman Show-esque fictional story and that she and my friends were all stock characters that were gaslighting me into weakness while adding to the central themes of the story: my perpetual loneliness, my lack of ability to find a partner, and my obsession over any woman who shows me attention.
I didn't degrade, insult, or demand anything from her. I told her that I didn't expect a response to the message, and that I understand why she'd want to keep her distance from here out.
I just didn't think she'd full-on block me.
I didn't degrade, insult, or demand anything from her. I told her that I didn't expect a response to the message, and that I understand why she'd want to keep her distance from here out.
I just didn't think she'd full-on block me.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 24 minutes later[^] [v] #1,363,780
Wtf haha
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 21 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,781
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You usually give reasonable responses. I'd appreciate a little bit more than a "Wtf haha".
Thanks.
You usually give reasonable responses. I'd appreciate a little bit more than a "Wtf haha".
Thanks.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,783
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,784
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,785
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,786
@previous (Matt Jr.)
I think you should read what you wrote and think about why having no contact is the best choice
I think you should read what you wrote and think about why having no contact is the best choice
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,787
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,788
@previous (Matt Jr.)
Women need to be on their toes constantly in a way men typically don't. They can't afford to take risks. The moment you seem even remotely unhinged, you're done. And your message does read as pretty deranged, no offence.
Women need to be on their toes constantly in a way men typically don't. They can't afford to take risks. The moment you seem even remotely unhinged, you're done. And your message does read as pretty deranged, no offence.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 19 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,789
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 18 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,790
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,791
@1,363,788 (D)
She knew I was unhinged from the get-go. Like, I went into graphic detail about my traumatic childhood, and the way that it carried over into my adult years and caused a lot more trauma for both myself and other people as well. She thanked me for being vulnerable and honest with her, and still kept reaching out to me when I would forget to respond or not be interested in responding or whatever. She was leaning towards being into me well past her knowledge of my glaring red flags.
@1,363,789 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> You were using her to hurt yourself
This read like an empathetic statement, but I'm not sure if it is. I didn't think you were capable of feeling empathy towards men.
She knew I was unhinged from the get-go. Like, I went into graphic detail about my traumatic childhood, and the way that it carried over into my adult years and caused a lot more trauma for both myself and other people as well. She thanked me for being vulnerable and honest with her, and still kept reaching out to me when I would forget to respond or not be interested in responding or whatever. She was leaning towards being into me well past her knowledge of my glaring red flags.
@1,363,789 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> You were using her to hurt yourself
This read like an empathetic statement, but I'm not sure if it is. I didn't think you were capable of feeling empathy towards men.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,792
Think about it this way
You've turned her into a weapon that you use against yourself
And someone pointing a weapon at you is a threat
And how do we treat threats?
You've turned her into a weapon that you use against yourself
And someone pointing a weapon at you is a threat
And how do we treat threats?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 48 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,793
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,794
@1,363,792 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So wait, are you saying SHE is the threat or that I am?
Are you implying that this is good and necessary for both of us?
So wait, are you saying SHE is the threat or that I am?
Are you implying that this is good and necessary for both of us?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,796
@previous (Matt Jr.)
YOU have turned HER into a threat against YOU without HER consent
That puts her in danger so she neutralized that threat
Her blocking you is good and necessary for both of you
YOU have turned HER into a threat against YOU without HER consent
That puts her in danger so she neutralized that threat
Her blocking you is good and necessary for both of you
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,797
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
How did I do anything without her consent? She initiated our friendship, she added emotional weight to our conversations, and she gassed me up often. I can't help it that my mind perceived that a certain way.
Furthermore, how did it put her in danger? I'm not dangerous anymore. In fact, in the last message I sent her, I made it clear that I was getting back into therapy the following week and would be getting back on medication management consistently. Granted, the therapy session has passed us and I still haven't taken the first pill, but that's the message that I conveyed to her, at least.
I'm not sure, I'm really just failing to see how I'm the bad guy here. I'm mentally ill, sure, but I never showed any signs of putting her in danger. I never made any threats. I never insinuated that I was going to do anything stupid like hurt her. Maybe the worst thing I said in that final message regarding her safety is that when we went hiking, I really did want to kiss her, but that I was too respectful of her boundaries and her own emotional wellbeing to make a move.
I can understand how my message may be creepy. I'm not that big of an idiot. I just fail to see how I'm automatically a threat because I'm a passionate man.
How did I do anything without her consent? She initiated our friendship, she added emotional weight to our conversations, and she gassed me up often. I can't help it that my mind perceived that a certain way.
Furthermore, how did it put her in danger? I'm not dangerous anymore. In fact, in the last message I sent her, I made it clear that I was getting back into therapy the following week and would be getting back on medication management consistently. Granted, the therapy session has passed us and I still haven't taken the first pill, but that's the message that I conveyed to her, at least.
I'm not sure, I'm really just failing to see how I'm the bad guy here. I'm mentally ill, sure, but I never showed any signs of putting her in danger. I never made any threats. I never insinuated that I was going to do anything stupid like hurt her. Maybe the worst thing I said in that final message regarding her safety is that when we went hiking, I really did want to kiss her, but that I was too respectful of her boundaries and her own emotional wellbeing to make a move.
I can understand how my message may be creepy. I'm not that big of an idiot. I just fail to see how I'm automatically a threat because I'm a passionate man.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,798
@previous (Matt Jr.)
You need to listen to what Im saying and stop using things (Im not the bad guy) as a way of ignoring my very good points
Im going to treat you like you're not retarded. Dont prove me wrong
Let's do this step by step
1. Her presence is hurting you. Yes or no?
You need to listen to what Im saying and stop using things (Im not the bad guy) as a way of ignoring my very good points
Im going to treat you like you're not retarded. Dont prove me wrong
Let's do this step by step
1. Her presence is hurting you. Yes or no?
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Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,800
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You actually got a chuckle out of me, Kook. Congratulations!
1. Her presence began to hurt me when it started to feel like limerence. Her presence was actually pretty positive in my life for the amount of time it was there. We had good conversations, she hyped me up and was helping me build my confidence, and she directly motivated me and inspired me to get back into one of my longest and most devoted hobbies that I had unfortunately put on the back burner for about 3 years or so. In those ways, her presence was productive. It really didn't get toxic until after we went on the hike that Saturday, and she immediately took a work trip to the opposite side of the country that Tuesday, so she naturally wasn't too focused on contacting me during that trip. At the beginning of last week, I was pretty confident about things and thought things were going swimmingly. The silence ate at me though, and my natural tendency to overthink really created a toxic mindset that resulted in me crashing out publicly in a grand gesture of appreciation for her by, in the middle of the night, bulk posting maybe 100 photos of her from our hike each with really interesting song choices, to say the least.
At that moment, I think she got overwhelmed, but she was still nice about things. But when she finally got back to me later that day, I could tell the energy had shifted a lot, and I was in the midst of my paranoid delusions, so I sent her a vague message about the delusions. She said "I understand. Please take care of yourself." and I didn't respond until the next day, when the delusions had stopped, and I woke up with a clearer mind to just explain my side of the story in detail. That's the final message that she never responded to.
So yeah, I guess you could say her presence was hurting me at the VERY end, but overwhelmingly it wasn't a bad experience at all.
You actually got a chuckle out of me, Kook. Congratulations!
1. Her presence began to hurt me when it started to feel like limerence. Her presence was actually pretty positive in my life for the amount of time it was there. We had good conversations, she hyped me up and was helping me build my confidence, and she directly motivated me and inspired me to get back into one of my longest and most devoted hobbies that I had unfortunately put on the back burner for about 3 years or so. In those ways, her presence was productive. It really didn't get toxic until after we went on the hike that Saturday, and she immediately took a work trip to the opposite side of the country that Tuesday, so she naturally wasn't too focused on contacting me during that trip. At the beginning of last week, I was pretty confident about things and thought things were going swimmingly. The silence ate at me though, and my natural tendency to overthink really created a toxic mindset that resulted in me crashing out publicly in a grand gesture of appreciation for her by, in the middle of the night, bulk posting maybe 100 photos of her from our hike each with really interesting song choices, to say the least.
At that moment, I think she got overwhelmed, but she was still nice about things. But when she finally got back to me later that day, I could tell the energy had shifted a lot, and I was in the midst of my paranoid delusions, so I sent her a vague message about the delusions. She said "I understand. Please take care of yourself." and I didn't respond until the next day, when the delusions had stopped, and I woke up with a clearer mind to just explain my side of the story in detail. That's the final message that she never responded to.
So yeah, I guess you could say her presence was hurting me at the VERY end, but overwhelmingly it wasn't a bad experience at all.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,801
@previous (Matt Jr.)
Okay
So you admit that her presence hurts you
2. And you've told her that her presence hurts you. Correct?
Okay
So you admit that her presence hurts you
2. And you've told her that her presence hurts you. Correct?
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,802
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes, I told her that I couldn't actively contact her again until I got my head straight, IF ever, but I left her the option of reaching out to check in (because I know she's an empath).
Yes, I told her that I couldn't actively contact her again until I got my head straight, IF ever, but I left her the option of reaching out to check in (because I know she's an empath).
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,803
@previous (Matt Jr.)
So the facts are
1. Her presence is hurting you
2. You've told her that her presence is hurting you
3. You're having paranoid delusions
4. Your delusions feature seeing her and her friends as being not real people and as them actively hurting you and your life
5. You've told her this
6. You haven't taken your medicine yet
Is all of this accurate?
So the facts are
1. Her presence is hurting you
2. You've told her that her presence is hurting you
3. You're having paranoid delusions
4. Your delusions feature seeing her and her friends as being not real people and as them actively hurting you and your life
5. You've told her this
6. You haven't taken your medicine yet
Is all of this accurate?
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,804
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Mostly, but there is one correction to make: it wasn’t her and her friends, it was her and my friends.
She lives in a small city in the bordering state, but our two small cities are extremely closely related in physical proximity and really exist as part of one MSA. The few good friends I have are actually from her city. A lot of the “acquaintances” I have that I’ve worked with creatively over the years and that I’m friendly with but not really close with, are from her city as well, and we have a LOT of mutuals as a result.
So you were mostly right in your assessment.
Mostly, but there is one correction to make: it wasn’t her and her friends, it was her and my friends.
She lives in a small city in the bordering state, but our two small cities are extremely closely related in physical proximity and really exist as part of one MSA. The few good friends I have are actually from her city. A lot of the “acquaintances” I have that I’ve worked with creatively over the years and that I’m friendly with but not really close with, are from her city as well, and we have a LOT of mutuals as a result.
So you were mostly right in your assessment.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,805
@previous (Matt Jr.)
Looking at those facts together, can you understand why she blocked you, and why her doing so was the correct thing to do?
Looking at those facts together, can you understand why she blocked you, and why her doing so was the correct thing to do?
Matt Jr. (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,806
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No, I can’t.
Blocking me right now seems like a way to kick me while I’m down and remind me that I’m not worthy of being appreciated as a human being.
No, I can’t.
Blocking me right now seems like a way to kick me while I’m down and remind me that I’m not worthy of being appreciated as a human being.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,808
@previous (Matt Jr.)
How exactly is it kicking you?
Why haven't you taken your meds yet?
You've said that YOU don't see HER as a real human being
How exactly is it kicking you?
Why haven't you taken your meds yet?
You've said that YOU don't see HER as a real human being
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,811
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I did tell her earlier that week that she was a figment of my imagination. But at the end of the day, I really did see her as a human being. I felt an overwhelming urge to nurture her and protect her from whatever threats existed in my head, all because I projected my own longing and my own desires and my own need to “feel seen” onto her during and after the photo editing process. Hell, I even told her that in the final message.
I haven’t taken my meds because I’m scared to, really, and I’m not financially stable right now so buying a new prescription will be difficult.
I did tell her earlier that week that she was a figment of my imagination. But at the end of the day, I really did see her as a human being. I felt an overwhelming urge to nurture her and protect her from whatever threats existed in my head, all because I projected my own longing and my own desires and my own need to “feel seen” onto her during and after the photo editing process. Hell, I even told her that in the final message.
I haven’t taken my meds because I’m scared to, really, and I’m not financially stable right now so buying a new prescription will be difficult.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,813
@previous (A)
But you sometimes see her as not a real human and you told her that
She is keeping you both safe
Also, you could probably figure out how to afford your prescription
But you sometimes see her as not a real human and you told her that
She is keeping you both safe
Also, you could probably figure out how to afford your prescription
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,815
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 26 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,818
@previous (E)
I'd appreciate if you learned to spell. Thanks.
@1,363,813 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
She was never unsafe with me in any capacity. I don't like how you're trying to create motives for me.
I'd appreciate if you learned to spell. Thanks.
@1,363,813 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
She was never unsafe with me in any capacity. I don't like how you're trying to create motives for me.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,819
@previous (A)
Stop trying to ignore what I'm typing. It's blatantly obvious at this point
I'M explaining to YOU how YOU come across to HER
Stop trying to ignore what I'm typing. It's blatantly obvious at this point
I'M explaining to YOU how YOU come across to HER
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,820
@1,363,818 (A)
Let me word this a different way
Dont assume that others can understand and believe all of your motives/thoughts
I can tell that you've had many communication problems in your life and they are directly related to this concept
Let me word this a different way
Dont assume that others can understand and believe all of your motives/thoughts
I can tell that you've had many communication problems in your life and they are directly related to this concept
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 34 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,822
@1,363,819 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So if I come across to HER as using HER as a weapon against MYSELF, how is that a good move for HER to cut ME off?
So if I come across to HER as using HER as a weapon against MYSELF, how is that a good move for HER to cut ME off?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 26 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,825
She dodged a nuclear missile. You should consider a life of celibacy.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,828
@1,363,822 (A)
Because weapons need to be neutralized to stop them from harming people
You come across as dangerous
Because weapons need to be neutralized to stop them from harming people
You come across as dangerous
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 16 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,829
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,830
@1,363,825 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I am a good person. I'm not sure why you think otherwise.
@1,363,828 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
She was never, and has never been in harm's reach. If anything, I was the one being harmed. How does it benefit her to prevent me from being harmed?
I am a good person. I'm not sure why you think otherwise.
@1,363,828 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
She was never, and has never been in harm's reach. If anything, I was the one being harmed. How does it benefit her to prevent me from being harmed?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,831
@previous (A)
Cars, trains planes, and boats exist. What is your point?
Also, there are many ways to harm someone from long distances away
You come across as scary, dude
Why do you keep accusing people of calling you a bad guy?
Cars, trains planes, and boats exist. What is your point?
Also, there are many ways to harm someone from long distances away
You come across as scary, dude
Why do you keep accusing people of calling you a bad guy?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,833
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Telling me that I should consider a life of celibacy and that she dodged a nuclear missile, as well as telling me that I'm dangerous, is literally calling me a bad person.
It almost feels like both you and Fake Anon are projecting your own shortcomings onto me, somehow. Even in my most dangerous states, I was never ACTUALLY dangerous. I've grown a LOT since then, though. I have no desire to harm anyone and nothing that I've said on here or to her would indicate that I am capable of or willing to harm someone.
Telling me that I should consider a life of celibacy and that she dodged a nuclear missile, as well as telling me that I'm dangerous, is literally calling me a bad person.
It almost feels like both you and Fake Anon are projecting your own shortcomings onto me, somehow. Even in my most dangerous states, I was never ACTUALLY dangerous. I've grown a LOT since then, though. I have no desire to harm anyone and nothing that I've said on here or to her would indicate that I am capable of or willing to harm someone.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 9 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,834
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 34 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,835
@1,363,833 (A)
I've told you that you come across as being dangerous and you do
Would you have rather I lied?
I've told you that you come across as being dangerous and you do
Would you have rather I lied?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,836
@1,363,834 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Well, I don't necessarily think it would benefit her to not block me. I'm simply saying that it's not a benefit to her at all to block me. But one could argue that the depths of our conversations and my consistency with communication were positive aspects of our friendship.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You think that literally every man who keeps his dick attached to his body is dangerous, so that doesn't really mean much.
Well, I don't necessarily think it would benefit her to not block me. I'm simply saying that it's not a benefit to her at all to block me. But one could argue that the depths of our conversations and my consistency with communication were positive aspects of our friendship.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You think that literally every man who keeps his dick attached to his body is dangerous, so that doesn't really mean much.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 week ago, 6 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,837
@1,363,829 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes, for all the good that'll do you.
@1,363,830 (A)
I never said you were a bad person. You are just not mentally or emotionally stable enough to handle conversing with past, present, or future romantic partners. It's not a moral judgment. You will (once you actually start therapy and medication) be there again some day, provided you stick to your mental health regimen. Blocking you until you are in that headspace is the best choice for all parties involved.
Yes, for all the good that'll do you.
@1,363,830 (A)
I never said you were a bad person. You are just not mentally or emotionally stable enough to handle conversing with past, present, or future romantic partners. It's not a moral judgment. You will (once you actually start therapy and medication) be there again some day, provided you stick to your mental health regimen. Blocking you until you are in that headspace is the best choice for all parties involved.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,838
@1,363,836 (A)
By blocking you, shes cutting off the source of your obsession and you can no longer claim her mere existence is hurting you
This second comment is another way to ignore good advice. You scared her
Why do YOU think she blocked you?
By blocking you, shes cutting off the source of your obsession and you can no longer claim her mere existence is hurting you
This second comment is another way to ignore good advice. You scared her
Why do YOU think she blocked you?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 23 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,839
@1,363,837 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I think the thing that sticks with me the most is the statement that blocking someone makes.
To me, blocking me is a complete and utter rejection and dismissal of me as a person. In a roundabout way, blocking me is essentially telling me "You are a complete piece of shit and I hate you." It's not about personal protection, it's about hatred and contempt for me.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
After further review, it turns out she didn't actually BLOCK me. She just removed me from her (private) Instagram and also unfollowed me. So that changes things slightly, but the sentiment is still there.
I think the thing that sticks with me the most is the statement that blocking someone makes.
To me, blocking me is a complete and utter rejection and dismissal of me as a person. In a roundabout way, blocking me is essentially telling me "You are a complete piece of shit and I hate you." It's not about personal protection, it's about hatred and contempt for me.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
After further review, it turns out she didn't actually BLOCK me. She just removed me from her (private) Instagram and also unfollowed me. So that changes things slightly, but the sentiment is still there.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,840
@previous (A)
You told her that you don't see her as a real person and that her existence causes you pain
It doesn't change much at all. It's a soft block
You told her that you don't see her as a real person and that her existence causes you pain
It doesn't change much at all. It's a soft block
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,841
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I never said I don't see her as a real person. I made a comment once that she was a figment of my imagination, which was laced in dry humor given the context of the conversation.
Maybe my explanation of my mindset to her could be construed as me not seeing her as a real person. I did humorously use the term "manic pixie dream girl" in the message. Either way though, that was a one-off thing. The delusions really just came and went within the span of a few days.
If she was a decent person who was "seriously grateful" to have me in her life like she said she was, then I would think that she'd show more empathy in this situation instead of signaling to me that she doesn't see ME as a person.
I never said I don't see her as a real person. I made a comment once that she was a figment of my imagination, which was laced in dry humor given the context of the conversation.
Maybe my explanation of my mindset to her could be construed as me not seeing her as a real person. I did humorously use the term "manic pixie dream girl" in the message. Either way though, that was a one-off thing. The delusions really just came and went within the span of a few days.
If she was a decent person who was "seriously grateful" to have me in her life like she said she was, then I would think that she'd show more empathy in this situation instead of signaling to me that she doesn't see ME as a person.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,842
@previous (A)
Im referencing what you wrote at the top of the page and that is you saying she isn't a real person and her existence gives you pain
By telling her these things, it makes YOU look like YOU lack empathy and you seem like a threat
Do you not understand that YOU started this?
If YOU were a decent person, YOU wouldn't have told her this stuff
Shes afraid of you now
Im referencing what you wrote at the top of the page and that is you saying she isn't a real person and her existence gives you pain
By telling her these things, it makes YOU look like YOU lack empathy and you seem like a threat
Do you not understand that YOU started this?
If YOU were a decent person, YOU wouldn't have told her this stuff
Shes afraid of you now
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,844
@1,363,825 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)> She dodged a nuclear missile. You should consider a life of celibacy.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 42 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,845
@1,363,842 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Fundamentally she knows that that's not true, though. Even after our conversations about Red Pill philosophy and me informing her of her status as an "alpha widow," and then my subsequent statements that I wanted to become a legitimate sociopath, it only took me like a day or two to break and for the empath in me to come out.
I consistently listened to her and actively attempted to help her feel emotionally understood by me.
Even then, though... how does me SOUNDING like I lack empathy make me a threat at all? I don't take violent action, ever. I may have violent thoughts on a regular basis, but I don't vocalize them to anyone except for my family and very closest friends. I lack the desire to ACTUALLY take violent action. She literally has never been a potential victim of any sort of violence from me.
Now, about the who started it thing... Yeah, I'm the one who created the romcom movie scenario in my head. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, she is the one who ACTUALLY started it, first by reaching out to me to do a photoshoot, and then by continuing to message me about random shit I would post on Instagram, and then reaching out to me after a month when I didn't respond to her, then by telling me about how grateful she was for me, how intelligent and cultured I am, how emotionally mature I am compared to every other guy she knows, how I'm an attractive guy and I should give myself more credit, how connected my visual art made her feel to home while she lived away from home, how my art inspired her, how talented I was in a lot of different aspects, how safe I made her feel, how I "should find another black queen because all our bootyholes are sweet."
I mean, come on now. I understand the part that I played in romanticizing this scenario in my head, but you can't deny the fact that she WAS feeding into it. For validation, for free photos, I don't know for certain.
Fundamentally she knows that that's not true, though. Even after our conversations about Red Pill philosophy and me informing her of her status as an "alpha widow," and then my subsequent statements that I wanted to become a legitimate sociopath, it only took me like a day or two to break and for the empath in me to come out.
I consistently listened to her and actively attempted to help her feel emotionally understood by me.
Even then, though... how does me SOUNDING like I lack empathy make me a threat at all? I don't take violent action, ever. I may have violent thoughts on a regular basis, but I don't vocalize them to anyone except for my family and very closest friends. I lack the desire to ACTUALLY take violent action. She literally has never been a potential victim of any sort of violence from me.
Now, about the who started it thing... Yeah, I'm the one who created the romcom movie scenario in my head. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, she is the one who ACTUALLY started it, first by reaching out to me to do a photoshoot, and then by continuing to message me about random shit I would post on Instagram, and then reaching out to me after a month when I didn't respond to her, then by telling me about how grateful she was for me, how intelligent and cultured I am, how emotionally mature I am compared to every other guy she knows, how I'm an attractive guy and I should give myself more credit, how connected my visual art made her feel to home while she lived away from home, how my art inspired her, how talented I was in a lot of different aspects, how safe I made her feel, how I "should find another black queen because all our bootyholes are sweet."
I mean, come on now. I understand the part that I played in romanticizing this scenario in my head, but you can't deny the fact that she WAS feeding into it. For validation, for free photos, I don't know for certain.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,846
@1,363,839 (A)
No it's the "I don't want to hear from this person again" button. She clicked it because you sent her an insane message and she decided she didn't want to hear from you again. It's like unsubscribing from an email newsletter she didn't sign up for and doesn't want to read. Does she hate you? Who gives a shit, you're exes. Sometimes your exes hate you, sometimes they don't. Sometimes it's justified, sometimes it isn't. Focus on yourself and let the past be the past for your own sake if no one else's.
No it's the "I don't want to hear from this person again" button. She clicked it because you sent her an insane message and she decided she didn't want to hear from you again. It's like unsubscribing from an email newsletter she didn't sign up for and doesn't want to read. Does she hate you? Who gives a shit, you're exes. Sometimes your exes hate you, sometimes they don't. Sometimes it's justified, sometimes it isn't. Focus on yourself and let the past be the past for your own sake if no one else's.
Meta joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,848
> when we became friends I had no intention of pursuing her romantically,
Bullshit
Bullshit
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,850
@1,363,845 (A)
Your recent conduct has made her reevaluate how she sees you and you need to come to terms with that
I've been very kind and patient about explaining this to you
Saying she isn't empathetic after announcing your own lack of empathy is bizarre as well
Your recent conduct has made her reevaluate how she sees you and you need to come to terms with that
I've been very kind and patient about explaining this to you
Saying she isn't empathetic after announcing your own lack of empathy is bizarre as well
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 24 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,851
Son, women are adult toys, do not ever involve yourself with them until your an adult.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,852
@1,363,846 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Important distinction to make: she is not an ex. We never dated. We never actually did anything more than a casual hug at the end of our shoot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> For what it's worth, here is the full, final message I sent her:
Hey, I just wanted to shoot you a message real quick and try to explain everything better to at least get it off my chest. Yesterday I was a little bit more vague than I probably could have been. This is a very long message, and I don’t expect a response; I just need to be honest and clarify things.
When we became friends, I didn’t have any intentions at all of it being anything more than that. I’ve always thought you were physically attractive, but I was also pretty aware of your status and lifestyle, and I wasn’t actively trying to pursue anything with you. I enjoyed being friends with you without any expectations, and I even told you that at one point.
Sometime very soon after that conversation, things shifted in my head. I think you said something about being grateful to have me in your life, and something in my monkey brain activated and started making me think of other possibilities.
The entire time, I knew why it was a bad idea to pursue it, but the problem with me is that oftentimes I can’t really control the emotional side of my brain. I know I’m a generally unimpressive dude in most traditional standards, so I was aware that logically it didn’t make sense for you to have any sort of attraction to me, especially given everything you’d been through with your previous relationship(s). But well, when you’re a mentally unstable, lonely dude who is extremely down on his luck, and an attractive, successful, and intelligent woman shows you real empathy and actively makes an effort to be in your life, you start to hope.
So I guess in a roundabout way, I put too much pressure on myself and ended up making an idiot of myself in the process. I liked you, and then last Saturday happened, and it got really unhealthy, really fast.
The entire time we spent together on Saturday was one of those electrifying moments that gets burned into one’s memory forever. I had spent the past 5 years or so completely believing that I will never find love again. I literally thought that it was impossible for anyone to have that effect on me at this point in my life given all of my (often self-induced) trauma.
I had gone on various dates and whatever since [the ex] left, and there was always an underlying guilt or something that prevented me from really, truly connecting with people. I compared every woman to an idea of her that I created in my head; specifically, the 19/20 year old her that I lived a full and exciting life with. Of course, you know that people often look at these situations with rose-tinted glasses, and my bipolar brain is definitely wired to do that. In my mind, 2016-2018 was the last time I truly felt alive and free.
I wrote this a few nights ago, but I’m gonna copy and paste it here just because it’s a good line: If the weeks and months leading up to Saturday were a trail of gasoline, then Saturday was the lighting of a match and then a subsequent nuclear bomb dropping on me.
In my mind, everything was lining up perfectly. You were friendly through text, but sometimes mildly flirty when I would be. I read deep into every word you wrote. The “sweet bootyholes” line had me 100% convinced that you were feeling something for me. Then, Saturday happened, and I felt that feeling deep inside of me. I didn’t think about [the ex]. I didn’t think about comparing our time together with my time with anyone else. I was just present, enjoying the moment and enjoying the process of creating something special with you.
I quit watching porn and stuff a few weeks before that, and they always say that doing so increases your confidence. I think it did, to an extent, but at the same time, it didn’t increase it enough. There were so many times that I wanted to kiss you on that hike, but I didn’t, because I knew you were dealing with all the shit with your ex, and I wanted to respect your boundaries. I didn’t want to be just another dude that you felt deceived you with friendship only to make advances on you. I also still wasn’t completely sure what you were feeling, so I didn’t go for it out of fear of ruining whatever was going on. I was reading into all kinds of shit. Body language, things you said, all of that. I just couldn’t find the right time to do it. You asked for a hug, which is something I don’t get very often from anyone except maybe my mom, grandmother, and niece and nephews. I’m sure you felt it, but my leg was shaking for the entire duration of that hug. You telling me I made you feel safe really hit me in a way that I didn’t expect, because for so long I’ve considered myself to be someone that isn’t safe. In a way, it felt like I was being seen for who I truly am, and not the bad things I’ve done in my life.
I went over to [friend]’s after I left the lake, and we smoked a few joints and watched UFC fights. I was trying so hard to play it cool and act like I didn’t care or wasn’t affected by what happened earlier, but it’s all I could think about. At one point during the fights, I told [my friends] that I was going to zone out for a minute and look at the photos I took earlier. So I did. I got my camera out and looked through the photos, and I almost started crying at one point.
Then, when I got home later that night and loaded the photos onto my computer to start processing them, I was suddenly hit with a huge emotional wave. I’m gonna be real with you, because I’m out of that “pursuing you” mindset by now and think honesty is the best policy; I legitimately broke down in tears while looking at the photos that night. Like, heavy torrent tears. They were happy tears, because I actually felt something that I hadn’t felt in almost a decade, if ever. They were also sad tears, because I knew that you were still in the process of managing your own emotional entanglements to your ex, who by almost any measure is a more attractive man than me. It was just an overwhelming flood of emotions, shit that I haven’t ever really felt. In my mind, you were perfect. I romanticized that photo shoot to such an extent in my head that I felt like I was looking into your soul that day. I looked at the photos I took of you and I tried to study your body language the best I could, and I convinced myself that you felt something real too. I convinced myself that you had this deep longing in your eyes; that in a world full of dudes that only saw you for your physical attributes, you were dying for someone to actually see your soul. I felt like you had shown me your soul during that shoot, and I felt like I had truly seen it in a way that I haven’t ever done before. I convinced myself that you were feeling at least a fraction of what I was feeling.
You left for California Tuesday morning I believe. You texted me on the plane, and I was starting to really feel like there was something brewing. On one hand, I was aware that we had defined our interactions as platonic friendship, but on the other hand I was also aware that oftentimes good relationships develop out of friendship, and I thought that maybe you were starting to truly trust me and confide in me. And I wanted that. I wanted to feel needed, almost. I wanted someone to feel my presence when I wasn’t around.
You got to LA and then quickly got caught up in everything going on out there. But I’m a smart person, and I’ve studied all this shit for years, so logically I knew that the best thing to do was to give you your space. While I was trying to reel myself in emotionally after everything I felt on Saturday, I told myself that I just needed to focus on me and doing what I do, and let you come to me naturally. Women typically don’t like it when the men in their lives are needy and codependent, so I figured that if I just gave you your space that you would appreciate me more for it and you would find me more attractive.
So that’s what I did. I kept focusing on my photography and sharing stuff unrelated to you to give you (and any neutral observers) the idea that I had my own shit going on too, and that when you showed signs of life through instagram likes or messages, I would start posting the rest of our shoot. I was focusing too much on curating an image, I guess, but I was doing that for a while leading up to all of this.
So I’m sitting here, trying to keep myself busy, but also trying to play it cool enough that you wouldn’t get freaked out by my behavior. I kept telling myself that you’d text eventually, because I was convinced that what you felt on that shoot was real and that I had a real effect on you. But in my head, that shoot was still living absolutely rent-free. I think I might have cried two more times over it in the past week.
So it’s like, a nuclear bomb of emotions on Saturday, and then the emotional whiplash of you being present in your life and me realizing that I’m not as big a character in your story as you were in mine. I was posting cryptic captions and shit that were full of ego, and I told myself that I wouldn’t reach out to you because that’s “weak”, but I finally broke down and texted you because I was genuinely interested in checking in and seeing if you were okay.
I think that’s when the dam broke, really. Because I gave up my position, and you didn’t respond immediately, and like my brain often does, I absolutely spiraled in regards to my self-worth, my place in your life, and the fictional, movie-like scenario that I had completely concocted inside of my head and was putting on display on Instagram for clout or something.
I had only gradually shared the photos because I was into the whole “slow burn” idea, you reliving that day slowly through my lens and everything that I was convinced you were feeling hitting you again in waves. When you finally texted back and said you were having a really good time, I was already in a toxic place, and I interpreted that message as you not feeling the perceived connection as strongly as I did, and I decided at first that I was going to archive the ones I had already uploaded and not share the rest of them. Then, I was like, what if I just upload them all right now. It happened, it meant something to me, so it’s my story to tell kind of thing.
So I did. I spent like an hour uploading the sets in order. In my head, it was like sharing a movie. I wanted everyone to know that I had the capability of pulling a true baddie, because in my mind, if other people knew I was capable of it, then surely I would remember that I’m capable of it. I went through my liked Spotify songs and chose a bunch of songs that I thought fit my general emotional state at the time, and some of them were kind of disturbing looking back on it.
Still having not been to bed, I went yesterday morning to shoot with my friend [name]. I hadn’t heard from you, so I was getting concerned that I really freaked you out with my grand display of affection. After that, I drove to [nearby city] to the dispensary and got a cart, and I drove home hitting it and listening to some bipolar ass music. It was then that I decided that I had to deactivate my Instagram account and just unplug for a while. [Mutual friend] was messaging me, and the paranoia was growing. I legitimately started to see myself as a Truman-like character from the Truman Show, and it felt like everyone in my life was just there to play a role like in that movie. I started questioning a lot of shit, like my friends’ intentions, and your intentions. I started creating toxic connections in my head that might not even exist, and the only solution was to burn it all down.
So I deactivated, and you messaged back, and I figured I’d be honest and let you know that I was having some sort of episode. But I wasn’t as honest as I could have been, and I know you were feeling freaked out, so I finally went home and went to bed. I just woke up and the weight of the situation is actually hitting me now that the paranoia is gone.
So anyway, just to summarize: I really appreciated all the interactions that we had, and I really appreciate you being the catalyst for getting me back into one of the passions that I had put on the back burner for so long. Like, legitimately, from the depths of my soul: thank you. I just let my mind wander in too many different directions, and I put you on such a pedestal that even if things would have worked out the way I imagined them in my head, it would’ve gotten ugly. I projected a ton of my own problems and insecurities onto you, and that wasn’t really right of me to do. I also probably made you really uncomfortable by crashing out publicly like I did, and I’m sorry for that too.
Deep down I really do believe that you’re a good (but quietly troubled) person and I appreciate the fact that you were in my life, but the image of you that I created in my head was so unhealthy. You’re not a manic pixie dream girl, you’re a human being, and it was wrong of me to idolize you to the extent that I did.
So as of right now, I’ve decided to remain unplugged for a while. I don’t know when I’ll get back on Instagram, but I plan on it eventually. I’ve got an appointment scheduled with my therapist for next week, and I’ve got some meds and refills left available at the pharmacy, so I’m starting back on my medication today and will actively manage it like I should have been doing all along. I’m going to keep shooting, but I’m not going to do it for any sort of praise or social media attention. I’m not going to do it because it gives me a little bit of dopamine when I see your name pop up in my notifications. I’m going to do it for myself. I’m going to do it because I’ve fallen back in love with the process of creating photographs, and maybe one day I’ll upload them all, but as for right now I just want to create for myself with no expectations.
As for you and I: that’s your call. I’m very self-aware and I understand that my actions and this message explaining my mindset probably have you feeling pretty disturbed, and I do not blame you in the slightest. If you want to keep your distance, please do so. If you want to eventually reach out and check in on how I’m doing, feel free to do that too. Me personally: I’m not going to actively contact you again until I really get myself under control and back into a healthy mindset. The truth is that I probably won’t ever actively contact you again because I know that this is a hard thing to really come back from in a platonic relationship and I’m very conscious of your feelings in regards to my actions.
I don’t have any hard feelings, because you’re just a person dealing with your own traumas, and it’s not your fault that my brain built an unhealthy expectation and then crashed and burned. I still value you as a human rather than a romcom love interest, because you did accept me and make me feel seen, and those kind of connections do matter in a world like the one we’re living in. But for my own sanity, I have to actively disconnect for however long it takes me to get myself back.
So thank you, [name], for helping me remember my passions, and thank you for helping me remember that my heart does work. I sincerely hope that you continue to grow and find true peace and happiness in your life, and I’ll be rooting for you from a distance.
Important distinction to make: she is not an ex. We never dated. We never actually did anything more than a casual hug at the end of our shoot.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> For what it's worth, here is the full, final message I sent her:
Hey, I just wanted to shoot you a message real quick and try to explain everything better to at least get it off my chest. Yesterday I was a little bit more vague than I probably could have been. This is a very long message, and I don’t expect a response; I just need to be honest and clarify things.
When we became friends, I didn’t have any intentions at all of it being anything more than that. I’ve always thought you were physically attractive, but I was also pretty aware of your status and lifestyle, and I wasn’t actively trying to pursue anything with you. I enjoyed being friends with you without any expectations, and I even told you that at one point.
Sometime very soon after that conversation, things shifted in my head. I think you said something about being grateful to have me in your life, and something in my monkey brain activated and started making me think of other possibilities.
The entire time, I knew why it was a bad idea to pursue it, but the problem with me is that oftentimes I can’t really control the emotional side of my brain. I know I’m a generally unimpressive dude in most traditional standards, so I was aware that logically it didn’t make sense for you to have any sort of attraction to me, especially given everything you’d been through with your previous relationship(s). But well, when you’re a mentally unstable, lonely dude who is extremely down on his luck, and an attractive, successful, and intelligent woman shows you real empathy and actively makes an effort to be in your life, you start to hope.
So I guess in a roundabout way, I put too much pressure on myself and ended up making an idiot of myself in the process. I liked you, and then last Saturday happened, and it got really unhealthy, really fast.
The entire time we spent together on Saturday was one of those electrifying moments that gets burned into one’s memory forever. I had spent the past 5 years or so completely believing that I will never find love again. I literally thought that it was impossible for anyone to have that effect on me at this point in my life given all of my (often self-induced) trauma.
I had gone on various dates and whatever since [the ex] left, and there was always an underlying guilt or something that prevented me from really, truly connecting with people. I compared every woman to an idea of her that I created in my head; specifically, the 19/20 year old her that I lived a full and exciting life with. Of course, you know that people often look at these situations with rose-tinted glasses, and my bipolar brain is definitely wired to do that. In my mind, 2016-2018 was the last time I truly felt alive and free.
I wrote this a few nights ago, but I’m gonna copy and paste it here just because it’s a good line: If the weeks and months leading up to Saturday were a trail of gasoline, then Saturday was the lighting of a match and then a subsequent nuclear bomb dropping on me.
In my mind, everything was lining up perfectly. You were friendly through text, but sometimes mildly flirty when I would be. I read deep into every word you wrote. The “sweet bootyholes” line had me 100% convinced that you were feeling something for me. Then, Saturday happened, and I felt that feeling deep inside of me. I didn’t think about [the ex]. I didn’t think about comparing our time together with my time with anyone else. I was just present, enjoying the moment and enjoying the process of creating something special with you.
I quit watching porn and stuff a few weeks before that, and they always say that doing so increases your confidence. I think it did, to an extent, but at the same time, it didn’t increase it enough. There were so many times that I wanted to kiss you on that hike, but I didn’t, because I knew you were dealing with all the shit with your ex, and I wanted to respect your boundaries. I didn’t want to be just another dude that you felt deceived you with friendship only to make advances on you. I also still wasn’t completely sure what you were feeling, so I didn’t go for it out of fear of ruining whatever was going on. I was reading into all kinds of shit. Body language, things you said, all of that. I just couldn’t find the right time to do it. You asked for a hug, which is something I don’t get very often from anyone except maybe my mom, grandmother, and niece and nephews. I’m sure you felt it, but my leg was shaking for the entire duration of that hug. You telling me I made you feel safe really hit me in a way that I didn’t expect, because for so long I’ve considered myself to be someone that isn’t safe. In a way, it felt like I was being seen for who I truly am, and not the bad things I’ve done in my life.
I went over to [friend]’s after I left the lake, and we smoked a few joints and watched UFC fights. I was trying so hard to play it cool and act like I didn’t care or wasn’t affected by what happened earlier, but it’s all I could think about. At one point during the fights, I told [my friends] that I was going to zone out for a minute and look at the photos I took earlier. So I did. I got my camera out and looked through the photos, and I almost started crying at one point.
Then, when I got home later that night and loaded the photos onto my computer to start processing them, I was suddenly hit with a huge emotional wave. I’m gonna be real with you, because I’m out of that “pursuing you” mindset by now and think honesty is the best policy; I legitimately broke down in tears while looking at the photos that night. Like, heavy torrent tears. They were happy tears, because I actually felt something that I hadn’t felt in almost a decade, if ever. They were also sad tears, because I knew that you were still in the process of managing your own emotional entanglements to your ex, who by almost any measure is a more attractive man than me. It was just an overwhelming flood of emotions, shit that I haven’t ever really felt. In my mind, you were perfect. I romanticized that photo shoot to such an extent in my head that I felt like I was looking into your soul that day. I looked at the photos I took of you and I tried to study your body language the best I could, and I convinced myself that you felt something real too. I convinced myself that you had this deep longing in your eyes; that in a world full of dudes that only saw you for your physical attributes, you were dying for someone to actually see your soul. I felt like you had shown me your soul during that shoot, and I felt like I had truly seen it in a way that I haven’t ever done before. I convinced myself that you were feeling at least a fraction of what I was feeling.
You left for California Tuesday morning I believe. You texted me on the plane, and I was starting to really feel like there was something brewing. On one hand, I was aware that we had defined our interactions as platonic friendship, but on the other hand I was also aware that oftentimes good relationships develop out of friendship, and I thought that maybe you were starting to truly trust me and confide in me. And I wanted that. I wanted to feel needed, almost. I wanted someone to feel my presence when I wasn’t around.
You got to LA and then quickly got caught up in everything going on out there. But I’m a smart person, and I’ve studied all this shit for years, so logically I knew that the best thing to do was to give you your space. While I was trying to reel myself in emotionally after everything I felt on Saturday, I told myself that I just needed to focus on me and doing what I do, and let you come to me naturally. Women typically don’t like it when the men in their lives are needy and codependent, so I figured that if I just gave you your space that you would appreciate me more for it and you would find me more attractive.
So that’s what I did. I kept focusing on my photography and sharing stuff unrelated to you to give you (and any neutral observers) the idea that I had my own shit going on too, and that when you showed signs of life through instagram likes or messages, I would start posting the rest of our shoot. I was focusing too much on curating an image, I guess, but I was doing that for a while leading up to all of this.
So I’m sitting here, trying to keep myself busy, but also trying to play it cool enough that you wouldn’t get freaked out by my behavior. I kept telling myself that you’d text eventually, because I was convinced that what you felt on that shoot was real and that I had a real effect on you. But in my head, that shoot was still living absolutely rent-free. I think I might have cried two more times over it in the past week.
So it’s like, a nuclear bomb of emotions on Saturday, and then the emotional whiplash of you being present in your life and me realizing that I’m not as big a character in your story as you were in mine. I was posting cryptic captions and shit that were full of ego, and I told myself that I wouldn’t reach out to you because that’s “weak”, but I finally broke down and texted you because I was genuinely interested in checking in and seeing if you were okay.
I think that’s when the dam broke, really. Because I gave up my position, and you didn’t respond immediately, and like my brain often does, I absolutely spiraled in regards to my self-worth, my place in your life, and the fictional, movie-like scenario that I had completely concocted inside of my head and was putting on display on Instagram for clout or something.
I had only gradually shared the photos because I was into the whole “slow burn” idea, you reliving that day slowly through my lens and everything that I was convinced you were feeling hitting you again in waves. When you finally texted back and said you were having a really good time, I was already in a toxic place, and I interpreted that message as you not feeling the perceived connection as strongly as I did, and I decided at first that I was going to archive the ones I had already uploaded and not share the rest of them. Then, I was like, what if I just upload them all right now. It happened, it meant something to me, so it’s my story to tell kind of thing.
So I did. I spent like an hour uploading the sets in order. In my head, it was like sharing a movie. I wanted everyone to know that I had the capability of pulling a true baddie, because in my mind, if other people knew I was capable of it, then surely I would remember that I’m capable of it. I went through my liked Spotify songs and chose a bunch of songs that I thought fit my general emotional state at the time, and some of them were kind of disturbing looking back on it.
Still having not been to bed, I went yesterday morning to shoot with my friend [name]. I hadn’t heard from you, so I was getting concerned that I really freaked you out with my grand display of affection. After that, I drove to [nearby city] to the dispensary and got a cart, and I drove home hitting it and listening to some bipolar ass music. It was then that I decided that I had to deactivate my Instagram account and just unplug for a while. [Mutual friend] was messaging me, and the paranoia was growing. I legitimately started to see myself as a Truman-like character from the Truman Show, and it felt like everyone in my life was just there to play a role like in that movie. I started questioning a lot of shit, like my friends’ intentions, and your intentions. I started creating toxic connections in my head that might not even exist, and the only solution was to burn it all down.
So I deactivated, and you messaged back, and I figured I’d be honest and let you know that I was having some sort of episode. But I wasn’t as honest as I could have been, and I know you were feeling freaked out, so I finally went home and went to bed. I just woke up and the weight of the situation is actually hitting me now that the paranoia is gone.
So anyway, just to summarize: I really appreciated all the interactions that we had, and I really appreciate you being the catalyst for getting me back into one of the passions that I had put on the back burner for so long. Like, legitimately, from the depths of my soul: thank you. I just let my mind wander in too many different directions, and I put you on such a pedestal that even if things would have worked out the way I imagined them in my head, it would’ve gotten ugly. I projected a ton of my own problems and insecurities onto you, and that wasn’t really right of me to do. I also probably made you really uncomfortable by crashing out publicly like I did, and I’m sorry for that too.
Deep down I really do believe that you’re a good (but quietly troubled) person and I appreciate the fact that you were in my life, but the image of you that I created in my head was so unhealthy. You’re not a manic pixie dream girl, you’re a human being, and it was wrong of me to idolize you to the extent that I did.
So as of right now, I’ve decided to remain unplugged for a while. I don’t know when I’ll get back on Instagram, but I plan on it eventually. I’ve got an appointment scheduled with my therapist for next week, and I’ve got some meds and refills left available at the pharmacy, so I’m starting back on my medication today and will actively manage it like I should have been doing all along. I’m going to keep shooting, but I’m not going to do it for any sort of praise or social media attention. I’m not going to do it because it gives me a little bit of dopamine when I see your name pop up in my notifications. I’m going to do it for myself. I’m going to do it because I’ve fallen back in love with the process of creating photographs, and maybe one day I’ll upload them all, but as for right now I just want to create for myself with no expectations.
As for you and I: that’s your call. I’m very self-aware and I understand that my actions and this message explaining my mindset probably have you feeling pretty disturbed, and I do not blame you in the slightest. If you want to keep your distance, please do so. If you want to eventually reach out and check in on how I’m doing, feel free to do that too. Me personally: I’m not going to actively contact you again until I really get myself under control and back into a healthy mindset. The truth is that I probably won’t ever actively contact you again because I know that this is a hard thing to really come back from in a platonic relationship and I’m very conscious of your feelings in regards to my actions.
I don’t have any hard feelings, because you’re just a person dealing with your own traumas, and it’s not your fault that my brain built an unhealthy expectation and then crashed and burned. I still value you as a human rather than a romcom love interest, because you did accept me and make me feel seen, and those kind of connections do matter in a world like the one we’re living in. But for my own sanity, I have to actively disconnect for however long it takes me to get myself back.
So thank you, [name], for helping me remember my passions, and thank you for helping me remember that my heart does work. I sincerely hope that you continue to grow and find true peace and happiness in your life, and I’ll be rooting for you from a distance.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 10 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,854
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,858
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,859
@previous (A)
I think it would help you
1. Make better choices
2. Manage your emotions
3. Manage your paranoid delusions
You've said other weird stuff to this women that I kindly suggested was a bad idea
Knowing it was a business transaction makes it worse
I think it would help you
1. Make better choices
2. Manage your emotions
3. Manage your paranoid delusions
You've said other weird stuff to this women that I kindly suggested was a bad idea
Knowing it was a business transaction makes it worse
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,860
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,861
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,862
@1,363,858 (A)
If my mother sent me a message of that length as her dying words I would still get bored of it halfway through and skim it. No one cares about your life enough to read that much rambling over how you thought (incorrectly) this woman felt about you. If you want to vomit these thoughts out, write them down in a journal. Or find a therapist who is paid by the hour to deal with someone in your condition and tell them. You are in some kind of manic/crazed state and I think even you recognize that in some capacity. The absolute best thing you can do is literally never talk to anyone remotely connected to this ever again and begin extensive therapy and medication.
If my mother sent me a message of that length as her dying words I would still get bored of it halfway through and skim it. No one cares about your life enough to read that much rambling over how you thought (incorrectly) this woman felt about you. If you want to vomit these thoughts out, write them down in a journal. Or find a therapist who is paid by the hour to deal with someone in your condition and tell them. You are in some kind of manic/crazed state and I think even you recognize that in some capacity. The absolute best thing you can do is literally never talk to anyone remotely connected to this ever again and begin extensive therapy and medication.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 16 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,863
@1,363,861 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I've been posting photography on and off as a hobby (and brief part-time business years ago) since 2016. I had like 1400 posts until I archived them all yesterday. I really got involved with the music scene in her hometown, which is like 10 minutes away from mine, in 2018, while she was living elsewhere. Since I was doing the majority of photo work for a lot of the artists, and she's really passionate about both art and her hometown, she followed me and I followed her. We had a very brief chat in 2018 because I was working on a local-interest website and was plastering stickers up for it everywhere, and I think she may have inquired about them, so I mailed her some. Other than that one single conversation in 2018, though, we never talked until this past December. The only interactions we really had up until that point were in the form of Instagram post likes. She consistently engaged with my content, and I occasionally engaged with hers.
I've been in a highly volatile emotional state since this past October when I went off my meds, quit my job, and ended the brief, unhappy relationship that I was in within the span of a couple of days. Some days I'm fine. Other days, I spiral constantly.
I can't rely on my friends for emotional support for various reasons, and my family is full of emotional basket cases, so I generally don't have anyone to talk to about shit except for my therapist that I ghosted last fall and random people on the Internet. My IG feed consisted of purely photography with cryptic captions, but I've been known to go batshit on my IG stories and share all kinds of off-the-wall shit, whether that's related to my emotional instability or other creations and thoughts of mine.
So I'm not really sure why she reached out in December, but it could have been a pity thing? I don't know. She literally just messaged me one day asking if I wanted to do a photoshoot because she hasn't modeled since Covid, and she really wanted to get back into it. I told her that I hadn't picked up my camera in a long time, but that when it warmed up I'd be interested in shooting with her. And since that conversation, she placed herself in my orbit. Like, I posted a story about seeing a Cybertruck one day, and she messaged me about it and we had a conversation about it. I know that specific conversation doesn't mean anything, but what I'm saying is that after that initial message in December, she consistently placed herself in my life, and she opened up to me about her trauma and I opened up about mine, and we got decently close leading up to the photoshoot.
So it wasn't just an art collaboration. It started as that, but it developed into something more.
I've been posting photography on and off as a hobby (and brief part-time business years ago) since 2016. I had like 1400 posts until I archived them all yesterday. I really got involved with the music scene in her hometown, which is like 10 minutes away from mine, in 2018, while she was living elsewhere. Since I was doing the majority of photo work for a lot of the artists, and she's really passionate about both art and her hometown, she followed me and I followed her. We had a very brief chat in 2018 because I was working on a local-interest website and was plastering stickers up for it everywhere, and I think she may have inquired about them, so I mailed her some. Other than that one single conversation in 2018, though, we never talked until this past December. The only interactions we really had up until that point were in the form of Instagram post likes. She consistently engaged with my content, and I occasionally engaged with hers.
I've been in a highly volatile emotional state since this past October when I went off my meds, quit my job, and ended the brief, unhappy relationship that I was in within the span of a couple of days. Some days I'm fine. Other days, I spiral constantly.
I can't rely on my friends for emotional support for various reasons, and my family is full of emotional basket cases, so I generally don't have anyone to talk to about shit except for my therapist that I ghosted last fall and random people on the Internet. My IG feed consisted of purely photography with cryptic captions, but I've been known to go batshit on my IG stories and share all kinds of off-the-wall shit, whether that's related to my emotional instability or other creations and thoughts of mine.
So I'm not really sure why she reached out in December, but it could have been a pity thing? I don't know. She literally just messaged me one day asking if I wanted to do a photoshoot because she hasn't modeled since Covid, and she really wanted to get back into it. I told her that I hadn't picked up my camera in a long time, but that when it warmed up I'd be interested in shooting with her. And since that conversation, she placed herself in my orbit. Like, I posted a story about seeing a Cybertruck one day, and she messaged me about it and we had a conversation about it. I know that specific conversation doesn't mean anything, but what I'm saying is that after that initial message in December, she consistently placed herself in my life, and she opened up to me about her trauma and I opened up about mine, and we got decently close leading up to the photoshoot.
So it wasn't just an art collaboration. It started as that, but it developed into something more.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,864
@1,363,862 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> The absolute best thing you can do is literally never talk to anyone remotely connected to this ever again and begin extensive therapy and medication.
I honestly fail to see how that's even an option. She's well-connected in our region, and she knows a good amount of people that I know. There's no honest way to totally disconnect myself from this situation unless I were to move far away, and sadly that's not a possibility at the moment or for the foreseeable future.
> The absolute best thing you can do is literally never talk to anyone remotely connected to this ever again and begin extensive therapy and medication.
I honestly fail to see how that's even an option. She's well-connected in our region, and she knows a good amount of people that I know. There's no honest way to totally disconnect myself from this situation unless I were to move far away, and sadly that's not a possibility at the moment or for the foreseeable future.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 27 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,866
@1,363,863 (A)
I feel like that long message was the straw that broke the camels back after all of the other weird stuff you've said to her
Its like a speed run of getting ghosted
I feel like that long message was the straw that broke the camels back after all of the other weird stuff you've said to her
Its like a speed run of getting ghosted
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,867
Penis
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,870
@1,363,866 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Weird is my whole shtick though.
It’s the double-edged sword of bipolar disorder. That chaotic, say-anything unfiltered energy is really attractive to some people, until it’s not anymore.
As soon as they cross that threshold, it evaporates in an instant.
Honestly, I think she was attracted to my raw energy at first. But naturally, I flew too close to the sun.
Weird is my whole shtick though.
It’s the double-edged sword of bipolar disorder. That chaotic, say-anything unfiltered energy is really attractive to some people, until it’s not anymore.
As soon as they cross that threshold, it evaporates in an instant.
Honestly, I think she was attracted to my raw energy at first. But naturally, I flew too close to the sun.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,881
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,893
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I try every time to change my approach, but I always revert back into my old ways. This time, I actively TRIED to prevent myself from catching feelings and then overthinking, but apparently that wasn't enough.
I try every time to change my approach, but I always revert back into my old ways. This time, I actively TRIED to prevent myself from catching feelings and then overthinking, but apparently that wasn't enough.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 27 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,900
@1,363,806 (Matt Jr.)
Oh my god it's because she thinks you're going to turn into a murderer because you are mentally ill enough to think that killing her is the only way to stop her "hurting" you
Oh my god it's because she thinks you're going to turn into a murderer because you are mentally ill enough to think that killing her is the only way to stop her "hurting" you
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,901
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 39 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,902
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 16 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,903
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 35 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,904
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,907
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I think op is physically incapable of understanding he is giving off murderous vibes
I think op is physically incapable of understanding he is giving off murderous vibes
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,921
@1,363,903 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What was?
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I haven't given off any murderous vibes. If you think that, that reflects more on you and your worldview than it does on my actions. I'm sorry you feel that way.
What was?
@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
I haven't given off any murderous vibes. If you think that, that reflects more on you and your worldview than it does on my actions. I'm sorry you feel that way.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,922
@previous (A)
I too feel like you come across as dangerous
I could give you a list of things you did that women don't like, but you'll get upset and start accusing me of things
I too feel like you come across as dangerous
I could give you a list of things you did that women don't like, but you'll get upset and start accusing me of things
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,924
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I know what women like and don't like. I'm aware that a large percentage of women are overly paranoid about men because of the way that society and the media demonizes us in general.
I also know that you've had a clear agenda since long before the very first day I recognized your name.
Now, if I was a murderous person... Well, I'll let you imagine the rest.
I know what women like and don't like. I'm aware that a large percentage of women are overly paranoid about men because of the way that society and the media demonizes us in general.
I also know that you've had a clear agenda since long before the very first day I recognized your name.
Now, if I was a murderous person... Well, I'll let you imagine the rest.
Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,926
@1,363,845 (A)
> our conversations about Red Pill philosophy and me informing her of her status as an "alpha widow," and then my subsequent statements that I wanted to become a legitimate sociopath
Gets the bitches wet every time!!!!! 😂👌
> our conversations about Red Pill philosophy and me informing her of her status as an "alpha widow," and then my subsequent statements that I wanted to become a legitimate sociopath
Gets the bitches wet every time!!!!! 😂👌
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 56 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,927
@previous (Meta)
If you had any bit of reading comprehension you would be able to understand that at the moment we had that conversation, I truly, literally did not give a shit about having risky conversations and saying problematic things to her.
If you had any bit of reading comprehension you would be able to understand that at the moment we had that conversation, I truly, literally did not give a shit about having risky conversations and saying problematic things to her.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,931
@1,363,924 (A)
And there it is. I dont have an agenda. You're weird for saying that I do
I don't think women are overly paranoid and I dont think you know what women like
That last comment makes you look stupid
And there it is. I dont have an agenda. You're weird for saying that I do
I don't think women are overly paranoid and I dont think you know what women like
That last comment makes you look stupid
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Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,932
@1,363,927 (A)
Yeah but you can't reasonably expect her to want to get involved with a "legitimate sociopath". That's too much. Try something smaller, like telling her you don't return the shopping carts to the corral and just leave them rolling around in the middle of the parking lot. That's probably the right amount of sociopathy for a prospective romantic partner.
Yeah but you can't reasonably expect her to want to get involved with a "legitimate sociopath". That's too much. Try something smaller, like telling her you don't return the shopping carts to the corral and just leave them rolling around in the middle of the parking lot. That's probably the right amount of sociopathy for a prospective romantic partner.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,933
@1,363,931 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I do know what women like. I've literally been studying this shit obsessively at times for over a decade. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. My problem is that I don't control my emotions, my emotions control me. If I could reasonably manage my emotions, take action to work on my physical health and confidence, and actually utilize the knowledge I have about interpersonal relationships, I'd be pulling bitches left and right. But honestly I'm just not there yet. And I would've bagged this bitch if I would've held frame and not lost my composure, and I think you know that too.
I do know what women like. I've literally been studying this shit obsessively at times for over a decade. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. My problem is that I don't control my emotions, my emotions control me. If I could reasonably manage my emotions, take action to work on my physical health and confidence, and actually utilize the knowledge I have about interpersonal relationships, I'd be pulling bitches left and right. But honestly I'm just not there yet. And I would've bagged this bitch if I would've held frame and not lost my composure, and I think you know that too.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,934
@1,363,932 (Meta)
She's hung up on her exmilitary ex who cheated on her with girls a decade younger than her and gave her an STI in the process. His parents murdered his sister during his childhood and he is a clinically diagnosed sociopath. And she can't get over the fucking dude.
Dark triad attraction is real. I'm just too empathic and weak-willed to actually commit to being evil.
She's hung up on her exmilitary ex who cheated on her with girls a decade younger than her and gave her an STI in the process. His parents murdered his sister during his childhood and he is a clinically diagnosed sociopath. And she can't get over the fucking dude.
Dark triad attraction is real. I'm just too empathic and weak-willed to actually commit to being evil.
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,935
@1,363,933 (A)
> I do know what women like. I've literally been studying this shit obsessively at times for over a decade.
It's just one gem after another with you.
> I do know what women like. I've literally been studying this shit obsessively at times for over a decade.
It's just one gem after another with you.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 53 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,936
@previous (L)
Say what you will about me, but it's clear that I have a unique aura about me. I might be the most interesting shitposter in the world.
Say what you will about me, but it's clear that I have a unique aura about me. I might be the most interesting shitposter in the world.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,937
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,938
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No, I know what women like. They like stability, confidence, status, humor, intelligence, emotional intelligence, and good looks. They especially like men that have demonstrated their social proof in the form of other women being around him.
The problem with me, again, is that I know all of this but I don't take the necessary actions to develop and display those traits.
No, I know what women like. They like stability, confidence, status, humor, intelligence, emotional intelligence, and good looks. They especially like men that have demonstrated their social proof in the form of other women being around him.
The problem with me, again, is that I know all of this but I don't take the necessary actions to develop and display those traits.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,939
Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 42 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,940
@1,363,938 (A)
Why not hire a couple of escorts and take them with you to dates to be your "wingmen"?
Why not hire a couple of escorts and take them with you to dates to be your "wingmen"?
Meta double-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,941
@1,363,934 (A)
Think about it though. If she 1) already caught a disease from this guy 2) is still madly in love with him, is this really the one you want? Even if by some miracle she unblocked you and fell madly in love with you tomorrow, you would 1) catch the disease 2) have to deal with her cheating on you with her ex. Is that REALLY what you want???
Think about it though. If she 1) already caught a disease from this guy 2) is still madly in love with him, is this really the one you want? Even if by some miracle she unblocked you and fell madly in love with you tomorrow, you would 1) catch the disease 2) have to deal with her cheating on you with her ex. Is that REALLY what you want???
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 8 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,942
@1,363,939 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Because I have a severely debilitating mental illness and quite literally no good support system in place to keep me on the right path. I know that taking care of my mental health is my responsibility, so I'm not putting the blame on other people, but it does help to have a good support system in those moments of weakness where I typically break. I've "started" my self-improvement journey many times in my life, but I always fail to stay disciplined and I always revert back into my old habits. I don't have the patience to actually wait to get results.
Same thing with the bipolar disorder, too. I have that classic "meds fixed me so now I don't need them anymore" syndrome. I'll get back on my meds, and my life will get substantially better (but not nearly as good as it could be), and since I feel stable and normal, I stop taking them. I think they were starting to not work anymore, though. I was starting to get really erratic in that brief relationship I mentioned earlier, but honestly I blame that more on the fact that we speedran the relationship and moved way too fast, and I allowed her to convince me to quit my stable, comfy job for a chaotic clown show of a business, so the stress was getting to me and the honeymood period had ended and I was realizing that I didn't actually love her. What I failed to do in that moment was to call my prescriber and let her know that the meds weren't as effective anymore. Instead, I confronted the girl I was with (through text) and she basically told me that she didn't respect me, and I went ahead and pre-emptively ended the relationship, quit that job the next day, and stopped taking my meds the day after that.
@1,363,940 (Meta)
I'm a broke motherfucker living in bumfuck Appalachia. We don't have escorts here, we have heroin-addicted prostitutes that stand outside of the crackhead hotel on the street with a cup full of Mountain Dew, but even if we did have quality escorts, I couldn't afford them, and there isn't really much of a nightlife culture here anyway.
Because I have a severely debilitating mental illness and quite literally no good support system in place to keep me on the right path. I know that taking care of my mental health is my responsibility, so I'm not putting the blame on other people, but it does help to have a good support system in those moments of weakness where I typically break. I've "started" my self-improvement journey many times in my life, but I always fail to stay disciplined and I always revert back into my old habits. I don't have the patience to actually wait to get results.
Same thing with the bipolar disorder, too. I have that classic "meds fixed me so now I don't need them anymore" syndrome. I'll get back on my meds, and my life will get substantially better (but not nearly as good as it could be), and since I feel stable and normal, I stop taking them. I think they were starting to not work anymore, though. I was starting to get really erratic in that brief relationship I mentioned earlier, but honestly I blame that more on the fact that we speedran the relationship and moved way too fast, and I allowed her to convince me to quit my stable, comfy job for a chaotic clown show of a business, so the stress was getting to me and the honeymood period had ended and I was realizing that I didn't actually love her. What I failed to do in that moment was to call my prescriber and let her know that the meds weren't as effective anymore. Instead, I confronted the girl I was with (through text) and she basically told me that she didn't respect me, and I went ahead and pre-emptively ended the relationship, quit that job the next day, and stopped taking my meds the day after that.
@1,363,940 (Meta)
I'm a broke motherfucker living in bumfuck Appalachia. We don't have escorts here, we have heroin-addicted prostitutes that stand outside of the crackhead hotel on the street with a cup full of Mountain Dew, but even if we did have quality escorts, I couldn't afford them, and there isn't really much of a nightlife culture here anyway.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,943
@1,363,941 (Meta)
Honestly, that was a major point of concern for me. Like, I legitimately considered quitting pursuing her when she told me that she got that STI from him, but I rationalized it in my head. She didn't disclose what the disease actually was. My guess was herpes, but honestly I unknowingly gave my ex herpes years ago anyway, so if it was herpes I could've lived with it. If it was something else, then well, my rationale was that medicine has come a long way and a lot of STIs are treatable nowadays.
As far as her being hung up on him... yeah, that was also a major point of concern for me. But my long-term ex went from a chaotic, traumatic relationship with me directly into a "nice guy" rebound, which she actually ended up marrying last year. So I guess I figured that maybe being an empathetic, good friend would turn into something more and she would move on from him. That directly contradicts the belief I have about alpha widows such as herself, but like I said: the extremely emotional side of me, and the extremely logical side of me, just don't complement each other well, and I can't actively lean into one or the other, it just comes and goes. So unfortunately the emotional side was way too strong for the logical reasoning I did to really shine through.
Honestly, that was a major point of concern for me. Like, I legitimately considered quitting pursuing her when she told me that she got that STI from him, but I rationalized it in my head. She didn't disclose what the disease actually was. My guess was herpes, but honestly I unknowingly gave my ex herpes years ago anyway, so if it was herpes I could've lived with it. If it was something else, then well, my rationale was that medicine has come a long way and a lot of STIs are treatable nowadays.
As far as her being hung up on him... yeah, that was also a major point of concern for me. But my long-term ex went from a chaotic, traumatic relationship with me directly into a "nice guy" rebound, which she actually ended up marrying last year. So I guess I figured that maybe being an empathetic, good friend would turn into something more and she would move on from him. That directly contradicts the belief I have about alpha widows such as herself, but like I said: the extremely emotional side of me, and the extremely logical side of me, just don't complement each other well, and I can't actively lean into one or the other, it just comes and goes. So unfortunately the emotional side was way too strong for the logical reasoning I did to really shine through.
POTATO NIGGER replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,955
HOLY FUCK NIGGER, TAKE OR GET MEDS IMMEDIATELY, NO ONE FUCKING CARES
YOU ARE LITERALLY WHY MONASTERIES/NUTHOUSES EXIST
YOU ARE LITERALLY WHY MONASTERIES/NUTHOUSES EXIST
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 22 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,959
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 59 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,960
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 16 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,961
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I know I'm not, but that doesn't erase the desire to give love and to feel loved in return. Yeah, I can do that with my family and the few friends I have, but that is so much different from romantic love that I don't even consider them the same feeling.
I'm literally touch-starved. I'm starved for affection. I'm starved for attention. I'm starved for engaging conversations. I'm starved for emotional intimacy. I'm starved for closeness. I'm starved for someone that I know has my back in hard times.
I'm 29 years old. Even if I started trying to get my shit together right now, it probably wouldn't happen until my mid-30s at best.
I know I'm not, but that doesn't erase the desire to give love and to feel loved in return. Yeah, I can do that with my family and the few friends I have, but that is so much different from romantic love that I don't even consider them the same feeling.
I'm literally touch-starved. I'm starved for affection. I'm starved for attention. I'm starved for engaging conversations. I'm starved for emotional intimacy. I'm starved for closeness. I'm starved for someone that I know has my back in hard times.
I'm 29 years old. Even if I started trying to get my shit together right now, it probably wouldn't happen until my mid-30s at best.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 49 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,965
@1,363,933 (A)
> My problem is that I don't control my emotions, my emotions control me.
Jfc sexists anno 2025
> My problem is that I don't control my emotions, my emotions control me.
Jfc sexists anno 2025
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,971
@1,363,921 (A)
You've told her
1. You think she is an actor
2. You think her role as an actor is to manipulate you
3. You told her that her existence causes you pain
4. You told her you want to be a sociopath
5. You have obvious issues with compulsion
6. All of this agreed together = your dumb ass coming to the conclusion she needs taking out
7. QED
You've told her
1. You think she is an actor
2. You think her role as an actor is to manipulate you
3. You told her that her existence causes you pain
4. You told her you want to be a sociopath
5. You have obvious issues with compulsion
6. All of this agreed together = your dumb ass coming to the conclusion she needs taking out
7. QED
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,972
I would also avoid you like the plague you fruitcake
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,973
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 1 week ago, 3 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,974
100 get! Woo!
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,976
@1,363,800 (Matt Jr.)
Why would you possibly expect someone to reply to that message when you've admitted you're creepy and toxic
Why would you possibly expect someone to reply to that message when you've admitted you're creepy and toxic
dw !p9hU6ckyqw double-posted this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,978
@1,363,818 (A)
She's not unsafe with you but you do have to protect her from threats in your own head??
She's not unsafe with you but you do have to protect her from threats in your own head??
dw !p9hU6ckyqw triple-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,979
You should call any men in your bloodline and then yourself
dw !p9hU6ckyqw quadruple-posted this 1 week ago, 39 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,982
Kill obviously
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,984
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,021
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 58 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,028
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I don't have any choices, really. I kinda wanna off myself but I'm too much of a coward to do it.
I don't have any choices, really. I kinda wanna off myself but I'm too much of a coward to do it.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,032
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,038
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,040
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,041
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,042
Anonymous L replied with this 1 week ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,043
@1,364,041 (A)
> It's the only option... I'm too far gone.
The wonderful thing about life is that it provides us on a daily basis with many more options than a) date or b) kill yourself.
> It's the only option... I'm too far gone.
The wonderful thing about life is that it provides us on a daily basis with many more options than a) date or b) kill yourself.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 53 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,061
@1,364,042 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I know I’m not. That’s why I wasn’t trying to, and then she placed herself in my life and I fell back into that habit of chasing love.
@previous (L)
What’s the point of living if not for love?
I know I’m not. That’s why I wasn’t trying to, and then she placed herself in my life and I fell back into that habit of chasing love.
@previous (L)
What’s the point of living if not for love?
Anonymous L replied with this 1 week ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,065
@previous (A)
> What’s the point of living if not for love?
There are different ways to love, not to mention many different things. You're fixated on only 1 very narrow concept of 'love', which doesn't seem to be love so much as a childishly needy, myopic and self-centred infatuation. Address your immaturity and life will get easier for you.
> What’s the point of living if not for love?
There are different ways to love, not to mention many different things. You're fixated on only 1 very narrow concept of 'love', which doesn't seem to be love so much as a childishly needy, myopic and self-centred infatuation. Address your immaturity and life will get easier for you.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,067
@1,364,041 (A)
Just go do some activity you enjoy without women like you're not wrong that they're total cunts you just can't say and behave like that
Just go do some activity you enjoy without women like you're not wrong that they're total cunts you just can't say and behave like that
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,074
Anonymous L replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,078
@previous (A)
There are trained professionals who can help you to address your immaturity. Take the first step and find a good therapist whom you trust.
There are trained professionals who can help you to address your immaturity. Take the first step and find a good therapist whom you trust.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,080
@previous (L)
I've been seeing the same therapist for 7 years. She's one of those free-spirit-but-now-in-her-40s mom types. She works for a state-funded organization in my area. She often goes on tangents about the convergence of spirituality/religion, conspiracy theories, and world politics during our appointments. Sometimes I'm not really sure what the fuck she's talking about, but other times the things she says really do click. I think the only reason I've continued going is because the organization requires one to see a therapist once every three months in order to get medication from a prescriber.
Recently she called me to her office from the lobby, and as I walked by her and continued down the hallway she complimented my long hair and flipped it with her fingers. I thought it was kind of weird. She also recommends that I reach out to her on Instagram if I need a quicker appointment, but every time I do she forgets to schedule me an appointment because she's extremely scatterbrained.
She's actually the person that suggested I go to a bluegrass show tripping on mushrooms, and that was a very positive experience for me.
I've been seeing the same therapist for 7 years. She's one of those free-spirit-but-now-in-her-40s mom types. She works for a state-funded organization in my area. She often goes on tangents about the convergence of spirituality/religion, conspiracy theories, and world politics during our appointments. Sometimes I'm not really sure what the fuck she's talking about, but other times the things she says really do click. I think the only reason I've continued going is because the organization requires one to see a therapist once every three months in order to get medication from a prescriber.
Recently she called me to her office from the lobby, and as I walked by her and continued down the hallway she complimented my long hair and flipped it with her fingers. I thought it was kind of weird. She also recommends that I reach out to her on Instagram if I need a quicker appointment, but every time I do she forgets to schedule me an appointment because she's extremely scatterbrained.
She's actually the person that suggested I go to a bluegrass show tripping on mushrooms, and that was a very positive experience for me.
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Anonymous L replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,081
@previous (A)
> I've been seeing the same therapist for 7 years. She's one of those free-spirit-but-now-in-her-40s mom types. She works for a state-funded organization in my area. She often goes on tangents about the convergence of spirituality/religion, conspiracy theories, and world politics during our appointments. Sometimes I'm not really sure what the fuck she's talking about, but other times the things she says really do click. I think the only reason I've continued going is because the organization requires one to see a therapist once every three months in order to get medication from a prescriber.
>
> Recently she called me to her office from the lobby, and as I walked by her and continued down the hallway she complimented my long hair and flipped it with her fingers. I thought it was kind of weird. She also recommends that I reach out to her on Instagram if I need a quicker appointment, but every time I do she forgets to schedule me an appointment because she's extremely scatterbrained.
>
> She's actually the person that suggested I go to a bluegrass show tripping on mushrooms, and that was a very positive experience for me.
And this person you're describing here, do you see her in the room with you now?
> I've been seeing the same therapist for 7 years. She's one of those free-spirit-but-now-in-her-40s mom types. She works for a state-funded organization in my area. She often goes on tangents about the convergence of spirituality/religion, conspiracy theories, and world politics during our appointments. Sometimes I'm not really sure what the fuck she's talking about, but other times the things she says really do click. I think the only reason I've continued going is because the organization requires one to see a therapist once every three months in order to get medication from a prescriber.
>
> Recently she called me to her office from the lobby, and as I walked by her and continued down the hallway she complimented my long hair and flipped it with her fingers. I thought it was kind of weird. She also recommends that I reach out to her on Instagram if I need a quicker appointment, but every time I do she forgets to schedule me an appointment because she's extremely scatterbrained.
>
> She's actually the person that suggested I go to a bluegrass show tripping on mushrooms, and that was a very positive experience for me.
And this person you're describing here, do you see her in the room with you now?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,082
@previous (L)
No, but I would assume she's finishing up her work day as it is now 5pm. She actually helped me get a job at that organization, and I ended up quitting after 8 months because the girl from that failed relationship speedrun convinced me that it would be a good decision to destabilize my life again right after stabilizing it.
No, but I would assume she's finishing up her work day as it is now 5pm. She actually helped me get a job at that organization, and I ended up quitting after 8 months because the girl from that failed relationship speedrun convinced me that it would be a good decision to destabilize my life again right after stabilizing it.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,085
Anonymous L replied with this 1 week ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,086
@1,364,082 (A)
> No, but I would assume she's finishing up her work day as it is now 5pm.
Ok, good. And does this person ever tell you to burn things or to harm yourself?
> No, but I would assume she's finishing up her work day as it is now 5pm.
Ok, good. And does this person ever tell you to burn things or to harm yourself?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,087
@1,364,085 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
About the girl in the original post? I've honestly never had any thoughts about harming her at all. I know you won't believe that, but it's true.
@previous (L)
No. I used to burn my skin with lit cigarettes though, and I can't remember how she responded to me telling her that.
About the girl in the original post? I've honestly never had any thoughts about harming her at all. I know you won't believe that, but it's true.
@previous (L)
No. I used to burn my skin with lit cigarettes though, and I can't remember how she responded to me telling her that.
Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,088
@previous (A)
Why do you assume I wouldn't believe that you've never had thoughts about harming the actor who is conspiring with your friends to manipulate and harm you through a Truman scheme?
Why do you assume I wouldn't believe that you've never had thoughts about harming the actor who is conspiring with your friends to manipulate and harm you through a Truman scheme?
Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,090
@1,363,943 (A)
> Honestly, that was a major point of concern for me. Like, I legitimately considered quitting pursuing her when she told me that she got that STI from him, but I rationalized it in my head. She didn't disclose what the disease actually was. My guess was herpes, but honestly I unknowingly gave my ex herpes years ago anyway, so if it was herpes I could've lived with it. If it was something else, then well, my rationale was that medicine has come a long way and a lot of STIs are treatable nowadays.
>
> As far as her being hung up on him... yeah, that was also a major point of concern for me. But my long-term ex went from a chaotic, traumatic relationship with me directly into a "nice guy" rebound, which she actually ended up marrying last year. So I guess I figured that maybe being an empathetic, good friend would turn into something more and she would move on from him. That directly contradicts the belief I have about alpha widows such as herself, but like I said: the extremely emotional side of me, and the extremely logical side of me, just don't complement each other well, and I can't actively lean into one or the other, it just comes and goes. So unfortunately the emotional side was way too strong for the logical reasoning I did to really shine through.
She could also dump you at any time and go back to the military man, leaving you in the same or worse situation that you are in now.
You'll also get whatever venereal diseases (and next time it might not be herpes) the military guy brings back to his ex from whatever girl he's sleeping with this week. You'll end up with all the risks of sexual promiscuity without any of the fun parts. It's frankly just a shitty deal and you should be glad you dodged a bullet.
And stop the red pill PUA alpha shit. It's clearly not working or doing you any good. It's Scientology for incels.
> Honestly, that was a major point of concern for me. Like, I legitimately considered quitting pursuing her when she told me that she got that STI from him, but I rationalized it in my head. She didn't disclose what the disease actually was. My guess was herpes, but honestly I unknowingly gave my ex herpes years ago anyway, so if it was herpes I could've lived with it. If it was something else, then well, my rationale was that medicine has come a long way and a lot of STIs are treatable nowadays.
>
> As far as her being hung up on him... yeah, that was also a major point of concern for me. But my long-term ex went from a chaotic, traumatic relationship with me directly into a "nice guy" rebound, which she actually ended up marrying last year. So I guess I figured that maybe being an empathetic, good friend would turn into something more and she would move on from him. That directly contradicts the belief I have about alpha widows such as herself, but like I said: the extremely emotional side of me, and the extremely logical side of me, just don't complement each other well, and I can't actively lean into one or the other, it just comes and goes. So unfortunately the emotional side was way too strong for the logical reasoning I did to really shine through.
She could also dump you at any time and go back to the military man, leaving you in the same or worse situation that you are in now.
You'll also get whatever venereal diseases (and next time it might not be herpes) the military guy brings back to his ex from whatever girl he's sleeping with this week. You'll end up with all the risks of sexual promiscuity without any of the fun parts. It's frankly just a shitty deal and you should be glad you dodged a bullet.
And stop the red pill PUA alpha shit. It's clearly not working or doing you any good. It's Scientology for incels.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,091
@1,364,088 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Because I understand the nature of this website and its users very well.
@previous (Meta)
Yeah, she straight up told me one day that "[she] will always love him." The whole time I knew that, but I was just ignoring the facts about it because of the glimmer of hope.
To your point about the red pill stuff: I go back and forth between it, really. On one hand I really do want a loving relationship with a loyal woman, and in an ideal world I would be a bluepilled good guy. When I was with the ex for 6 years, I really did start to leave all of that shit behind. Unfortunately, when that relationship ended, I bounced back and fell back into the rabbit hole.
The thing about manosphere-related content is that it's laced in a TON of truth. The core concepts apply very well. Thing is, they only really truly work if you're a natural at it, and most men will never be naturals at it. I guess with enough experience you could become a natural, but an autist can't become a natural by sitting in a basement bedroom all day jerking off to extreme porn and then obsessively (yet passively) consuming this material but not executing any sort of plan at all.
Because I understand the nature of this website and its users very well.
@previous (Meta)
Yeah, she straight up told me one day that "[she] will always love him." The whole time I knew that, but I was just ignoring the facts about it because of the glimmer of hope.
To your point about the red pill stuff: I go back and forth between it, really. On one hand I really do want a loving relationship with a loyal woman, and in an ideal world I would be a bluepilled good guy. When I was with the ex for 6 years, I really did start to leave all of that shit behind. Unfortunately, when that relationship ended, I bounced back and fell back into the rabbit hole.
The thing about manosphere-related content is that it's laced in a TON of truth. The core concepts apply very well. Thing is, they only really truly work if you're a natural at it, and most men will never be naturals at it. I guess with enough experience you could become a natural, but an autist can't become a natural by sitting in a basement bedroom all day jerking off to extreme porn and then obsessively (yet passively) consuming this material but not executing any sort of plan at all.
Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,093
@previous (A)
I just have not seen Red Pill/PUA working. Also they are not designed to get you into a loyal monogamous relationship, they're designed to get you in a series of pump and dump one night stands, which is not actually what you want.
So it's not working, and even if it did work, it would take you in the wrong direction from where you want to be.
I just have not seen Red Pill/PUA working. Also they are not designed to get you into a loyal monogamous relationship, they're designed to get you in a series of pump and dump one night stands, which is not actually what you want.
So it's not working, and even if it did work, it would take you in the wrong direction from where you want to be.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,094
@previous (Meta)
I can understand your point. I should probably just internalize the core truths: women want hot men that can't be controlled, and if you let them control you they will leave you for another man.
I can understand your point. I should probably just internalize the core truths: women want hot men that can't be controlled, and if you let them control you they will leave you for another man.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,096
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,097
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,098
@previous (A)
Yes it does
Those men are controlled to an extent and they have happy lives with loyal partners
Yes it does
Those men are controlled to an extent and they have happy lives with loyal partners
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,099
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Those men control themselves. They aren't controlled by their wives. That's the point I'm making.
Those men control themselves. They aren't controlled by their wives. That's the point I'm making.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,100
@previous (A)
You have no point!
Some of them are controlled by their wives just like some wives are controlled by their husbands
You have no point!
Some of them are controlled by their wives just like some wives are controlled by their husbands