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Topic: USA National Science Foundation compelled to cut grants into study of spread of misinformation

boof started this discussion 1 week ago #125,895

It would seem that the study of how misinformation propagates and how to have better information available is a goal contrary to the current US government. Or maybe they fear that THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 4 hours later[^] [v] #1,363,623

Is USA National Science Foundation in the room with us right now?

Meta joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,627

We didn't need any NSF grants to determine the safe distance for COVID

Q: Do you recall when discussions regarding, kind of, the at-least-a-6-foot threshold began?

A: The six-foot in the school?

Q: Six-foot overall. I mean, 6-foot was applied at businesses —

A: Yeah.

Q: It was applied in schools, it was applied here. At least how the messaging was applied was that 6-foot distancing was the distance that needed to be —

A: You know, I don’t recall. It sort of just appeared. I don’t recall, like, a discussion of whether it should be five or six or whatever. It was just that six-foot is –

Q: Did you see any studies that supported six feet?

A: I was not aware of studies that — in fact, that would be a very difficult study to do.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,628

Even entertaining the idea that the lab in Wuhan experimenting with gain-of-function research into coronaviruses could have possibly been the origin was labeled as "misinformation" and would get your account banned on most social media sites.

Leftism has always relied on censorship, and this is just a rebrand of censorship. Leftism relies upon censorship because the ideas cannot hold up in an open conversation.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 24 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,629

It's mostly frustrating because they use it on us too, just like the snooping stuff. No need to snoop, I'll say it right here, we've been C average for a while.

Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,658

@1,363,628 (D)
Not just "misinformation" - RACIST misinformation!

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 13 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,661

I don’t care about censorship that much, I censor myself all the time. People who can’t shut up are just babies.

boof (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 33 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,665

@1,363,627 (Meta)
good news, that's not what it's about at all you fuck

boof (OP) double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,666

@1,363,628 (D)
"Leftism" -- and now you expect to be taken seriously? fuck off

Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 11 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,668

@1,363,665 (boof)
IT SORT OF JUST APPEARED 😂😂😂

boof (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,669

indeed

Anonymous D replied with this 1 week ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,956

@1,363,666 (boof)

There are opposed political factions, yes. What's your point?

Anonymous D double-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,957

@1,363,658 (Meta)

Anything negative that happens to be about someone of another race is "racist".

Ask them how you criticize a foreign government in a non-racist way, and they can't even answer. They'll just find any way to change the subject.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,958

@previous (D)
None of this is true

dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,983

@1,363,628 (D)
So you got banned from Facebook and how is that because of leftists

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 36 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,985

I do recall people being angry at Donald Trump for calling it China Flu and saying it was their fault

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 week ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,992

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
> I do recall people being angry at Donald Trump for calling it China Flu and saying it was their fault
Yeah. It was true though. It came from China. Chinese people are responsible for the lab leak.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 week ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,994

@1,363,958 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Do you think lab-leak theory is racist?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,995

@previous (D)
No I dont

Anonymous D replied with this 1 week ago, 10 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,996

@1,363,983 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
99% of the time I hear someone saying we need to ban posts or punish speech it is a leftist, yes.

Old school liberals would defend free speech, but today it's all conservatives or independents.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 31 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,997

@1,363,992 (I)
I dont think it was wise to call it the China flu, regardless

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 43 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,998

@1,363,996 (D)
Right Wing people like to ban books and well as speech

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,999

@1,363,997 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I dont think it was wise to call it the China flu, regardless
Why? Nobody had any issues when people called Spanish flu Spanish flu. Why is it suddenly a problem to call something what it is when it's China?

Anonymous D replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,000

@1,363,997 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Fair point.

@1,363,998 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes, and at one point that would have been the main opposition to free speech, but that's hardly the case today.

Left-wing folks, especially college aged, are very comfortable with censorship.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 26 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,001

@1,363,999 (I)
I dont know why you think that something people were okay with in 1918 is relevant to what is okay today

A lot of things that were acceptable that long ago are not acceptable now

(Edited 35 seconds later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,002

@1,364,000 (D)
Its still happening from right wing people today and its odd that you aren't noticing any of it

Anonymous D replied with this 1 week ago, 54 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,003

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Give an example then.

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,004

@1,364,001 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> A lot of things that were acceptable that long ago are not acceptable now
Okay, but why? Explain it to me like I'm a child. Why is "China flu" racist/unwise but "Spanish flu" isn't?

Also I think you know very well that if covid had come from Spain, nobody would have any issues with calling it "Spanish flu II" or something.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,005

@1,364,003 (D)
Well, in my area. Right wing people have removed a bunch of books from libraries and given schools an approved list of books allowed in the school. But the list is very small

Also, they no longer let children in schools go by nicknames without written approval from their parents


The current administration has been removing references to women and minorities from government websites

Also, many states and the current administration are making it harder for adults to access certain medical procedures

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 28 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,006

@1,364,004 (I)
I didnt say either is racist or not

Your argument has no merit if it's based on lies

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC triple-posted this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,007

Additionally, the Spanish flu didn't come from Spain. It got its name because the US did and still does associate foreigners with being dirty and germy

(Edited 5 seconds later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC quadruple-posted this 1 week ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,008

Another question, can anyone picture any other president from the last 40 years calling Covid the China flu?

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Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,009

@1,364,007 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

I believe it's because only Spain had free press at the time, everyone else being in wartime censorship.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU double-posted this 1 week ago, 33 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,010

@1,364,008 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

Nixon

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 51 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,011

@1,364,009 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Please explain further

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 50 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,012

@1,364,010 (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Haha that's a good choice

I think he would be more likely to do that in private. He was pretty good regarding diplomacy

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,013

@1,364,007 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Additionally, the Spanish flu didn't come from Spain. It got its name because the US did and still does associate foreigners with being dirty and germy
That is a good point. I wasn't arguing by the way, I was asking a question, which you have answered quite satisfactorily I think.

@1,364,008 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Another question, can anyone picture any other president from the last 40 years calling Covid the China flu?
Quite easily - both the Bushes... and Reagan... and maybe even Bill Clinton. I was going to include Nixon but he falls outside of the 40 year range.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 36 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,014

And regarding leftist censoring social media

The current administration along with Elon Musk has been pushing certain social media sites to ban people who criticize Trump and Musk and their policies

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,015

@1,364,013 (I)
I disagree COMPLETELY with your last assertion

We also have a long history as a country of treating the Chinese terribly even though their labor was pivotal in modernizing the US

The Chinese never achieved the status of "White" in a way that the Spanish have

Also, during Covid, after the China flu comments, random violent attacks against Asians strongly increased. Which is why we've learned not to use such terms

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,017

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What? You said "from the last 40 years". I'm just saying I can't include Nixon because he falls outside of the parameters of your question.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,018

@previous (I)
Yes. I meant I don't see those other politicians using that terminology

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 week ago, 30 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,022

Anon D, is this Right Wing censorship??

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/04/congress-passes-take-it-down-act-despite-major-flaws

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 50 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,027

@1,364,011 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

The First World War was happening at the time and the governments in many countries felt that it would harm morale to spread the news of the plague killing millions.

Only neutral Spain reported it, giving rise to the perception that Spain was the epicentre of the outbreak. Actually it was most likely the Americans.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,034

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Ah I see

dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 week ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,036

@1,363,996 (D)
What?

Meta replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,053

@1,364,007 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I’m not familiar with Spaniards being stereotyped as dirty or unclean vs other southern Europeans.

(Edited 28 seconds later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 52 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,054

@previous (Meta)
They aren't now

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,083

@1,364,012 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

I can just picture him being recorded on the tapes ranting about the goddamn gooks and their china flu.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 week ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,184

@1,364,005 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> Well, in my area. Right wing people have removed a bunch of books from libraries and given schools an approved list of books allowed in the school. But the list is very small

Education is about teaching the truth, not indulging any random piece of literature written. If that idea worked, there would be no point in putting everyone through school they could simply wander through life learning as they go.

> Also, they no longer let children in schools go by nicknames without written approval from their parents

People should be called by their actual names.

> The current administration has been removing references to women and minorities from government websites

DEI has failed and the DEI websites are being removed. There will still be minorities and women in the records, but it won't be cherry picked to recruit based on illegal civil-rights-violating criteria.

> Also, many states and the current administration are making it harder for adults to access certain medical procedures

Murder and cosmetic surgeries are not medicine.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 34 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,186

@previous (D)
Nothing you've said has hurt my point

Conservatives censorship things

Thanks

Anonymous I replied with this 1 week ago, 7 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,187

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Conservatives censorship things

"censorship" isn't a verb, dummy.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 week ago, 29 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,364,188

@previous (I)
That doesn't change that I was right about everything

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