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Topic: So, convicted rapists and murderers can edit Wikipedia

Anonymous A started this discussion 10 months ago #124,929

...but anyone possessing a personal opinion can be permabanned if they post their views in the mainspace. Thanx.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,355,772

@OP
Hey, there's a convicted rapist in the Oval Office at the moment, so why not? BTW: he can also commit murder with complete impunity if he so chooses.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 7 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,773

What do you mean?

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 9 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,776

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It's a play on the fact that Wikipedia is "The encyclopedia that anybody can edit" - unless you happen to express a personal opinion. Basically, from Wikipedia's ass-backwards perspective, polemic discourse is the worst crime imaginable, far worse than rape, murder or genocide.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 26 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,779

@previous (B)
Ah I see

Probably peoples opinions shouldn't be listed in articles for things

boof joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,843

@1,355,776 (B)
it's an encylopedia, yes? not a place for "well here's what I think"

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 17 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,955

@1,355,779 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@previous (boof)
Actually, there are plenty of personal opinions included in wikipedian articles; they're cited from sources as diverse as peer reviewed studies and the tabloid press.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,961

@previous (B)
A tabloid saying something about a famous person may be noteworthy

No one cares what Joe Sycamore says

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,973

Wikipedia is shit.

boof replied with this 10 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,355,996

@1,355,955 (B)
I was thinking of the editor himself just splashing out his own unverified bullshit yah butt

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,047

@1,355,961 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> No one cares what Joe Sycamore says

Why not??

Anonymous B double-posted this 10 months ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,048

@1,355,996 (boof)
OK, so the editor cherry-picks his/her sources and uses them as a proxy to voice their unverified BS. Why not just drop the pretense? Rape and murder is far worse than expressing an opinion.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,049

@1,355,961 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What do you mean

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,055

@1,356,048 (B)

> So the editor cherry-picks his/her sources and uses them as a proxy to voice their unverified BS

If they have sources, it's the exact opposite of unverified. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. If you have sources contradicting the article, you can use them and edit the article.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,091

@1,355,973 (E)

> Wikipedia is shit.

I think it’s pretty good with the exception of articles having to do with recent political happenings

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,092

@1,356,055 (G)
the more subtle(but just as damaging as its faggot bias) problem with wikipedia is that its sources for their more political pages are generally shit, which brings into question their other sources. see that XKCD comic that created the word citogenesis https://xkcd.com/978/

boof replied with this 10 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,112

@1,356,048 (B)
no, that's not right either

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,199

@1,356,055 (G)
Yeah, but why should convicted rapists and murderers be allowed to edit Wikipedia while posting a personal opinion is a ban-worthy offense? How is polemic discourse worse than rape or murder?

Anonymous B double-posted this 10 months ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,200

@1,356,055 (G)
> If they have sources, it's the exact opposite of unverified.

Not if the sources are unverified.

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 8 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,334

@1,356,199 (B)

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, as long as they edit it correctly.

boof replied with this 10 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,343

indeed, if a miscreant can aid society in some way, then good

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,353

@1,356,334 (G)
So, you're OK with violent predators editing wikipedia - as long as they're following the rules?

boof replied with this 10 months ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,354

it's the raping part that I object to

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,359

@1,356,353 (B)

Yeah I don't give a SHIT

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 55 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,368

@previous (G)
Yeah, that's about what I'd expect.

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 34 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,374

@previous (B)

Doesn't affect their wikiskill, unlike your habit of inserting personal opinions into articles.

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 11 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,458

@previous (G)
> Doesn't affect their wikiskill
Neither does possessing a personal viewpoint.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,459

@previous (B)
This comment made sense to you?

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 6 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,495

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I assume that the word "wikiskill" refers to a person's ability to use the editing tools. Having an opinion would not have any effect on their use of the tools or their knowledge of markup codes.

Anonymous B double-posted this 10 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,496

@1,356,374 (G)
BTW:
> your habit of inserting personal opinions into articles.

Can you prove I've ever done this?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 45 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,498

@1,356,495 (B)
We're talking about inserting opinions into Wikipedia articles

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,501

@1,356,495 (B)

Np, your wikiskill is your skill at editing Wikipedia - not only knowing how to use the tools but also knowing what and what not to write, and publishing quality Wikipedia-worthy contributions.

Anonymous G double-posted this 10 months ago, 37 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,502

@1,356,496 (B)

You're moaning about getting banned for doing it.

boof replied with this 10 months ago, 31 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,504

I heard that convicts are allowed to eat noodles

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 11 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,506

@previous (boof)

They have it so good.

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,525

@1,356,502 (G)
> getting banned for doing it.
Can you prove this ever happened?

Anonymous B double-posted this 10 months ago, 5 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,528

@1,356,498 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Actually, the OP was talking about rapists and murderers being allowed to edit Wikipedia.

Kook, I don't believe that a rapist has anything worthwhile to say, other than making a full confession to the police. I may be wrong, but I'd rather not have them around, either online or in the "real" world.

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 59 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,531

@1,356,525 (B)

Why else would you be crying and bitching about it?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 4 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,551

@1,356,528 (B)
But they may have fine editing skills

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 6 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,696

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Maybe they do. Would you be OK with someone like Ted Bundy editing Wikipedia?

Anonymous B double-posted this 10 months ago, 37 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,697

@1,356,531 (G)
So, you can't prove it. Thanks, that will be all.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 11 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,699

@1,356,696 (B)
Yes. Why wouldn't I?

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 21 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,709

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Because serial rapist-murderers are both despicable and dangerous. In my *personal opinion,* they should not have access to Wikipedia's resources due to the Foundation's child protection policies, if nothing else.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 15 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,713

@previous (B)
What do you think they'll do with that that cannot be accomplished with having the internet in general?

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 6 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,716

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Nothing, but as a general rule, I'd rather not have rapists, murderers, sex-traffickers etc interacting with children on any level.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 16 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,721

@previous (B)
So shouldn't your problem be with the parole board?

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 29 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,728

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I don't think it's a good idea to allow convicted felons to communicate with minors on any social media platform or cooperative editing project. With that in mind, I believe that the WMF should enforce its Zero Tolerance policy against child exploitation by banning rapists, murderers, child abusers, sex traffickers, war criminals and so forth without exception.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 33 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,738

@previous (B)
Which of those types of criminals have they allowed to make edits?

Anonymous B replied with this 10 months ago, 14 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,742

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I don't know, Kook. I have no statistics at hand. The issue is that they have no specific prohibitions against convicted or admitted felons editing the site.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 10 months ago, 15 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,743

@previous (B)
I see

Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 10 months ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,751

There's no rule that dogs can't play basketball

Anonymous G replied with this 10 months ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,768

@1,356,697 (B)

Retard

Anonymous G double-posted this 10 months ago, 37 seconds later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,769

@1,356,738 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

All of them, because there's no practical method to prevent it.

boof replied with this 10 months ago, 4 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,356,770

did you know that they let just anyone masturbate to their own filthy thoughts? terrible!
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