Topic: Trump just did a commercial for Tesla cars in front of the White house
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC started this discussion 1 month ago #124,494
Very cool, Elon
(Edited 26 seconds later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 9 minutes later[^] [v] #1,353,165
His price sheet for the commercialMeta joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 31 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,166
Was it his idea or Elon's?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,167
@previous (Meta)
I dont know
A couple of times, Elon looked uncomfortable with things Trump was saying
I dont know
A couple of times, Elon looked uncomfortable with things Trump was saying
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 7 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,168
Isn't that illegal?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,169
Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,187
@1,353,167 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
The whole thing almost sounds like a low-key Elon diss, like sales are doing so bad he needs Trump to help sell them?
The whole thing almost sounds like a low-key Elon diss, like sales are doing so bad he needs Trump to help sell them?
Meta double-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,188
Trump should partner with Tesla and offer a special MAGA edition with limited edition decals, etc, for $10,000 extra. Maybe a $100,000 upgrade to have it autographed by Trump and/or Elon?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,190
@previous (Meta)
Tesla's customer base is/was people who are concerned about climate change and are willing to pay a premium to do something about it, aka Democrats. It has very limited appeal to Republicans which is why Elon going full retard in support of Trump makes no business sense. BYD will eat Tesla's lunch soon enough so I guess he figures he's made most of the money he's gonna make from it? Idk how else to explain it charitably.
Tesla's customer base is/was people who are concerned about climate change and are willing to pay a premium to do something about it, aka Democrats. It has very limited appeal to Republicans which is why Elon going full retard in support of Trump makes no business sense. BYD will eat Tesla's lunch soon enough so I guess he figures he's made most of the money he's gonna make from it? Idk how else to explain it charitably.
(Edited 18 seconds later.)
Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,192
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I have seen an explosion of Teslas here in Texas post-election. Elon has gotten right wingers interested in electric cars.
The sales, here at least, really have gone up. Whether that’s enough to counteract the anti-Trump slump, I don’t know but his strategy is working in some areas at least.
I have seen an explosion of Teslas here in Texas post-election. Elon has gotten right wingers interested in electric cars.
The sales, here at least, really have gone up. Whether that’s enough to counteract the anti-Trump slump, I don’t know but his strategy is working in some areas at least.
boof joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,204
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 7 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,218
@1,353,190 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> Neolib thinks buying a Tesla is doing something about climate change
> Neolib thinks buying a Tesla is doing something about climate change
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 month ago, 31 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,221
@1,353,192 (Meta)
We'll see but it just seems like bad business to take a reliable customer base and destroy your reputation with them in the hopes that you can conjure up a new batch of customers. Arguably he is not currently acting in his company's best interests.
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
People will be driving cars for a long time. They will drive ICE cars or electric cars. One of those emits less CO2 than the other. The math is pretty straightforward.
We'll see but it just seems like bad business to take a reliable customer base and destroy your reputation with them in the hopes that you can conjure up a new batch of customers. Arguably he is not currently acting in his company's best interests.
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
People will be driving cars for a long time. They will drive ICE cars or electric cars. One of those emits less CO2 than the other. The math is pretty straightforward.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,224
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 46 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,231
@1,353,221 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)Cybercab will roll out across the nation next year. Let's see how "principled" the elon haters can be when offered the least expensive ride hailing service ever.
Anonymous G double-posted this 1 month ago, 18 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,233
@1,353,224 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
lol Tesla is positioned to have the cleanest lithium refinery in the world. It's new 1200+ acre lithium refining site uses an acid-free process free of hazardous reagents and the byproduct is just a mix of limestone and sand. Tesla's newest motors have fewer rare earths than other modern EV motors, and their next-gen motor will use zero rare earth and with higher-efficiency. If the neolib crowd truly does care about the whole process, Tesla is the EV company closest to actual sustainability.
lol Tesla is positioned to have the cleanest lithium refinery in the world. It's new 1200+ acre lithium refining site uses an acid-free process free of hazardous reagents and the byproduct is just a mix of limestone and sand. Tesla's newest motors have fewer rare earths than other modern EV motors, and their next-gen motor will use zero rare earth and with higher-efficiency. If the neolib crowd truly does care about the whole process, Tesla is the EV company closest to actual sustainability.
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 month ago, 13 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,238
@1,353,231 (G)
I would be surprised if cybercabs are on the road and operating by the end of 2026 on a scale comparable to waymo.
I would be surprised if cybercabs are on the road and operating by the end of 2026 on a scale comparable to waymo.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,241
Do you think Elon will end up like the My Pillow guy? Only difference being My Pillows were good.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 42 seconds later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,242
@1,353,238 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
On a scale comparable to Waymo will be here within 2 months. Permits are granted.
On a scale comparable to Waymo will be here within 2 months. Permits are granted.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 month ago, 12 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,245
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,247
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
"Production vehicle" is an industry term meaning anyone can rock up and buy one. There are cybercabs rolling out of the factory today, they're for testing and training purposes and the trials in Austin and State-wide in California.
To answer your many question marks, Cybercab will be a product that anyone can buy, for their own purposes or to add to ride hailing fleet. "Production", in this case, means high volume manufacturing, sold to the public, and legal for operation on any public road
"Production vehicle" is an industry term meaning anyone can rock up and buy one. There are cybercabs rolling out of the factory today, they're for testing and training purposes and the trials in Austin and State-wide in California.
To answer your many question marks, Cybercab will be a product that anyone can buy, for their own purposes or to add to ride hailing fleet. "Production", in this case, means high volume manufacturing, sold to the public, and legal for operation on any public road
(Edited 5 minutes later.)
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 month ago, 8 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,248
@previous (G)
There are prototypes being made but I find it baffling you think there will be hundreds of cybercabs operating in the next 2 months when Elon says production won't start until next year. Happy to check back June 1 and see how many are on the road!
There are prototypes being made but I find it baffling you think there will be hundreds of cybercabs operating in the next 2 months when Elon says production won't start until next year. Happy to check back June 1 and see how many are on the road!
(Edited 9 seconds later.)
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,249
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Please do, I'll mark it in my calendar.
I find it strange that you think hundreds of cybercabs is even a challenge for Tesla at this point. You don't need to manufacture a "production vehicle" to operate under an autonomous trial permit. There's 'prototype' and 'series production' and then there 'production'.
Waymo will be put to utter shame in just a few months time. And by the end of next year cybercabs will be picking up riders in every one of our great U.S. states.
Please do, I'll mark it in my calendar.
I find it strange that you think hundreds of cybercabs is even a challenge for Tesla at this point. You don't need to manufacture a "production vehicle" to operate under an autonomous trial permit. There's 'prototype' and 'series production' and then there 'production'.
Waymo will be put to utter shame in just a few months time. And by the end of next year cybercabs will be picking up riders in every one of our great U.S. states.
(Edited 15 minutes later.)
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,265
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 3 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,283
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Oh goodness, you are? I'm not, and many others are not. Even in the case of a community burning only coal to supply their power grid, emissions can be captured centrally instead of being spewed out into my vegetable garden. Thanks.
Oh goodness, you are? I'm not, and many others are not. Even in the case of a community burning only coal to supply their power grid, emissions can be captured centrally instead of being spewed out into my vegetable garden. Thanks.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,287
Is it normal to refer to a random stranger by his first name?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 8 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,289
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,292
The Nazi regime promoted VW cars. The fascist regime of Themiscyra promoted Subarus.A User joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 10 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,294
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,297
A User replied with this 1 month ago, 13 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,298
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,303
Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,311
@1,353,221 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> We'll see but it just seems like bad business to take a reliable customer base and destroy your reputation with them in the hopes that you can conjure up a new batch of customers. Arguably he is not currently acting in his company's best interests.
He's broken like every single thing they teach you in business studies but he's now the worlds richest man. I can't explain it either.
> We'll see but it just seems like bad business to take a reliable customer base and destroy your reputation with them in the hopes that you can conjure up a new batch of customers. Arguably he is not currently acting in his company's best interests.
He's broken like every single thing they teach you in business studies but he's now the worlds richest man. I can't explain it either.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,313
@previous (Meta)
With the quality of hair plugs on his head he must be either poor or stupid, and he isn't poor so that kinda narrows it down.
With the quality of hair plugs on his head he must be either poor or stupid, and he isn't poor so that kinda narrows it down.
Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,315
Meta double-posted this 1 month ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,317
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,322
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 9 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,326
Anonymous J replied with this 1 month ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,333
Meta replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,335
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 month ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,352
boof replied with this 1 month ago, 36 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,358
Steve Wozniak has some words about Musk and Teslas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck-f3qZVcWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck-f3qZVcWM
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 19 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,472
@1,353,313 (L)
@1,353,317 (Meta)
He doesn't have hair plugs, lol. He was still balding in 1999 when PayPal sold to eBay. It was likely a FUE hair restoration, which was a new technique at the time.
@1,353,317 (Meta)
He doesn't have hair plugs, lol. He was still balding in 1999 when PayPal sold to eBay. It was likely a FUE hair restoration, which was a new technique at the time.
Anonymous G double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,473
Anonymous G triple-posted this 1 month ago, 15 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,591
@1,353,352 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
You forgot to add a counterpoint to the fact that centralized burning of coal makes the task of capturing emissions much easier and efficient. Are you conceding that this is much better than hundreds of thousands of tiny filters in each car? Combustion engine vehicles are practically the Keurig of transportation. Pollution in your garden AND hazardous waste in your landfills. Even a modern coal power plant is a vast improvement over ICE vehicle emissions and waste. Start there and then worry about improving the energy mix of your grid
You forgot to add a counterpoint to the fact that centralized burning of coal makes the task of capturing emissions much easier and efficient. Are you conceding that this is much better than hundreds of thousands of tiny filters in each car? Combustion engine vehicles are practically the Keurig of transportation. Pollution in your garden AND hazardous waste in your landfills. Even a modern coal power plant is a vast improvement over ICE vehicle emissions and waste. Start there and then worry about improving the energy mix of your grid
(Edited 7 minutes later.)
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 28 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,592
Anonymous G replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,594
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,353,598
@1,353,317 (Meta)
Something must be in the water, I've noticed a lot of people doing the hair piece, texture powders, dying beards and such lately. I guess I don't see the point of trying to look 56 when you're 63 or whatever... does it really open a bunch of doors for them? Not so much dunking on them, just saying they're wasting money IMO.
@1,353,592 (N)
Pretty decent coverage for a butthead!
Something must be in the water, I've noticed a lot of people doing the hair piece, texture powders, dying beards and such lately. I guess I don't see the point of trying to look 56 when you're 63 or whatever... does it really open a bunch of doors for them? Not so much dunking on them, just saying they're wasting money IMO.
@1,353,592 (N)
Pretty decent coverage for a butthead!
Anonymous G replied with this 15 hours ago, 1 month later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,267
@1,353,248 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> There are prototypes being made but I find it baffling you think there will be hundreds of cybercabs operating in the next 2 months when Elon says production won't start until next year. Happy to check back June 1 and see how many are on the road!
Update: As of April 2025, it was revealed that Tesla has been operating RoboTaxi as a pilot program ride hailing app for its employees in the San Francisco Bay Area since Q1 2024 and as of this month, the program has expanded to include Austin, Texas. The RoboTaxi app is still scheduled to begin public service in June 2025. Cybercab or not, Tesla RoboTaxi is upon us.
> There are prototypes being made but I find it baffling you think there will be hundreds of cybercabs operating in the next 2 months when Elon says production won't start until next year. Happy to check back June 1 and see how many are on the road!
Update: As of April 2025, it was revealed that Tesla has been operating RoboTaxi as a pilot program ride hailing app for its employees in the San Francisco Bay Area since Q1 2024 and as of this month, the program has expanded to include Austin, Texas. The RoboTaxi app is still scheduled to begin public service in June 2025. Cybercab or not, Tesla RoboTaxi is upon us.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 15 hours ago, 42 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,268
Anonymous G replied with this 15 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,272
Anonymous P replied with this 15 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,273
Anonymous G replied with this 15 hours ago, 18 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,274
@previous (P)
Before, obviously. Hyperloop is a satire of California's failure to build high-speed rail for over 42 years. It's a great joke; by the time California approves high-speed rail, we have have sci-fi infrastructure anyway
Before, obviously. Hyperloop is a satire of California's failure to build high-speed rail for over 42 years. It's a great joke; by the time California approves high-speed rail, we have have sci-fi infrastructure anyway
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous P replied with this 15 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,276
@previous (G)
Why before? The Hyperloop was first imagined in 2012. Surely it must have started service by now!
Why before? The Hyperloop was first imagined in 2012. Surely it must have started service by now!
Anonymous G replied with this 15 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,277
@previous (P)
@1,363,274 (G)
> Before, obviously. Hyperloop is a satire of California's failure to build high-speed rail for over 42 years. It's a great joke; by the time California approves high-speed rail, we have have sci-fi infrastructure anyway
Hyperloop will be achieved exactly one day before California's high-speed railway opens. California's been trying since 1982, so they have a HUGE lead on Tesla.
@1,363,274 (G)
> Before, obviously. Hyperloop is a satire of California's failure to build high-speed rail for over 42 years. It's a great joke; by the time California approves high-speed rail, we have have sci-fi infrastructure anyway
Hyperloop will be achieved exactly one day before California's high-speed railway opens. California's been trying since 1982, so they have a HUGE lead on Tesla.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous P replied with this 14 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,280
@previous (G)
The high speed rail system has been under construction for 42 years? Or it's been a concept for 42 years?
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply.
The high speed rail system has been under construction for 42 years? Or it's been a concept for 42 years?
I'm not sure what you're trying to imply.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,282
@previous (P)
Which date would you prefer to discuss? California's high-speed rail has been in active development for 30 years, with planning and study going back for more than 42 years. No part of California's high-speed rail network is expected to be operational before 2030, and the full "phase 1" of California's high-speed rail project will likely never be finished, but current projections from the state put phase 1 completion at 2035.
I think Elon will finish hyperloop before 2035 :)
Which date would you prefer to discuss? California's high-speed rail has been in active development for 30 years, with planning and study going back for more than 42 years. No part of California's high-speed rail network is expected to be operational before 2030, and the full "phase 1" of California's high-speed rail project will likely never be finished, but current projections from the state put phase 1 completion at 2035.
I think Elon will finish hyperloop before 2035 :)
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 14 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,287
@previous (G)
Japan took 49 years to extend their bullet train system in Kyushu, and that extension was only 41 miles long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishi_Kyushu_Shinkansen
It seems California is doing a great job!
Japan took 49 years to extend their bullet train system in Kyushu, and that extension was only 41 miles long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nishi_Kyushu_Shinkansen
It seems California is doing a great job!
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,290
@previous (Q)
If California had defined high-speed rail as anything near as capable as Japan's bullet trains, I would be inclined to agree. But their version of high-speed rail is not so great as Japan's
If California had defined high-speed rail as anything near as capable as Japan's bullet trains, I would be inclined to agree. But their version of high-speed rail is not so great as Japan's
Anonymous Q replied with this 14 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,292
@previous (G)
The fact that you know nothing about Japanese bullet trains leads me to believe that you know nothing about bullet trains in general.
The fact that you know nothing about Japanese bullet trains leads me to believe that you know nothing about bullet trains in general.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 14 hours ago, 22 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,293
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,296
@1,363,292 (Q)
Enjoy your false sense of superiority. Go make a bullet train topic, this topic is chiefly about robots with 4 wheels and tyres.
Enjoy your false sense of superiority. Go make a bullet train topic, this topic is chiefly about robots with 4 wheels and tyres.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 14 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,299
@previous (G)
You seem very confident in your knowledge. Could you explain why this part exists?
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/chademo-adapter-manual-in-english.pdf
You seem very confident in your knowledge. Could you explain why this part exists?
https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/chademo-adapter-manual-in-english.pdf
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,300
@previous (S)
LOL, because of an EV charging standard that failed in the Western markets. Pretty handy adapter if you find yourself in Nissan territory
LOL, because of an EV charging standard that failed in the Western markets. Pretty handy adapter if you find yourself in Nissan territory
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,304
@previous (G)
> Pretty handy adapter if you find yourself in Nissan territory
Like Japan? Or Tennessee?
> Pretty handy adapter if you find yourself in Nissan territory
Like Japan? Or Tennessee?
Anonymous S double-posted this 14 hours ago, 18 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,307
Anonymous S triple-posted this 14 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,311
I'm sure it was a glorious day for Tesla when it finally figured out how to make electric cars, but for Nissan and TEPCO it was a Tuesday.
Anonymous S quadruple-posted this 14 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,313
The funniest thing is that Tesla, for all its self aggrandizing, is trying to catch up to Nissan by aping every move Nissan did a decade ago.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,314
@1,363,304 (S)
Either one. Like I said, the standard was used in the west as well, but it failed. If you have somehow managed to find yourself in Tennessee with a low SoC on your Tesla battery and with no other options but to use some EVSE that is only equipped with CHAdeMO plugs, you'll find this adapter useful. But it will be vastly more useful if you find yourself living in Japan with a NACS equipped Tesla.
Either one. Like I said, the standard was used in the west as well, but it failed. If you have somehow managed to find yourself in Tennessee with a low SoC on your Tesla battery and with no other options but to use some EVSE that is only equipped with CHAdeMO plugs, you'll find this adapter useful. But it will be vastly more useful if you find yourself living in Japan with a NACS equipped Tesla.
Anonymous G double-posted this 14 hours ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,316
69GET
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 9 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,317
> EVSE
> CHAdeMO
lol
> CHAdeMO
lol
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,322
@1,363,313 (S)
Nissan never achieved any significant sales of EVs until 2010, two years after Tesla was selling its first EV product.
Nissan never achieved any significant sales of EVs until 2010, two years after Tesla was selling its first EV product.
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,323
Captain obvious replied with this 14 hours ago, 53 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,324
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 1 second later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,325
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 38 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,326
@1,363,322 (G)
It's also funny how Nissan claims on its PR releases how they were first and yet Tesla never rebukes them. Not even on Twitter or whatever it's called now.
Methinks they're a bit afraid of offending a certain nation.
It's also funny how Nissan claims on its PR releases how they were first and yet Tesla never rebukes them. Not even on Twitter or whatever it's called now.
Methinks they're a bit afraid of offending a certain nation.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 39 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,327
@1,363,324 (Captain obvious)
> BYD is gonna destroy both of them.
Once the occupation of mainland Taiwan ends, yeah, probably.
> BYD is gonna destroy both of them.
Once the occupation of mainland Taiwan ends, yeah, probably.
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 6 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,328
Anonymous S double-posted this 14 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,329
@1,363,314 (G)
What's totally bizarre is how you pepper your arguments with industry lingo to look smart but make an amateur mistake by claiming there's an EVSE that uses CHAdeMO, which is totally not the case.
What's totally bizarre is how you pepper your arguments with industry lingo to look smart but make an amateur mistake by claiming there's an EVSE that uses CHAdeMO, which is totally not the case.
Anonymous S triple-posted this 14 hours ago, 37 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,331
It isn't as strange as when you argue about hypotheticals, though.
Anonymous S quadruple-posted this 14 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,332
Try mentioning Mennekes and Yazaki in your arguments.
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 41 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,333
@1,363,328 (S)
> I still see it in Japan and China. Are Japan and China the "West" now?
They definitively are not. I didn't imply they were 🤣
> I still see it in Japan and China. Are Japan and China the "West" now?
They definitively are not. I didn't imply they were 🤣
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,335
Anonymous G replied with this 14 hours ago, 14 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,336
@1,363,329 (S)
> What's totally bizarre is how you pepper your arguments with industry lingo to look smart but make an amateur mistake by claiming there's an EVSE that uses CHAdeMO, which is totally not the case.
What the fuck are you on about? They exist.
> What's totally bizarre is how you pepper your arguments with industry lingo to look smart but make an amateur mistake by claiming there's an EVSE that uses CHAdeMO, which is totally not the case.
What the fuck are you on about? They exist.
Anonymous S replied with this 14 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,339
@previous (G)
No they don't. CHAdeMO is used on DC fast chargers. The abbreviation "EVSE" means "electric vehicle supply equipment", which just sends mains electricity to the onboard rectifier. Mains electricity hasn't been DC since Thomas Edison was alive.
No they don't. CHAdeMO is used on DC fast chargers. The abbreviation "EVSE" means "electric vehicle supply equipment", which just sends mains electricity to the onboard rectifier. Mains electricity hasn't been DC since Thomas Edison was alive.
Anonymous S double-posted this 14 hours ago, 52 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,340
Is this behavior unique to Tesla fanboys? Confronting tradesmen and claiming their decades of experience is wrong because they don't use Twitter?
Anonymous G replied with this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,341
@1,363,339 (S)
Wrong. EVSE refers to all of the equipment and software external to the vehicle that is used for either level 2 charging OR DC fast charging. You don't know shit, see you in June.
Wrong. EVSE refers to all of the equipment and software external to the vehicle that is used for either level 2 charging OR DC fast charging. You don't know shit, see you in June.
(Edited 31 seconds later.)
Anonymous S replied with this 13 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,342
@previous (G)
> EVSE refers to all of the equipment and software external to the vehicle
No, an EVSE only controls the flow of mains electricity. DC fast charging uses a rectifier that's way too big to be put in a car or a house.
Tell us what you know about electricity. Please.
> EVSE refers to all of the equipment and software external to the vehicle
No, an EVSE only controls the flow of mains electricity. DC fast charging uses a rectifier that's way too big to be put in a car or a house.
Tell us what you know about electricity. Please.
Anonymous G replied with this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,343
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 13 hours ago, 51 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,344
Anonymous S replied with this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,347
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
They probably don't want their executives thrown into prison for trumped-up charges, which unfortunately is a common occurrence.
They probably don't want their executives thrown into prison for trumped-up charges, which unfortunately is a common occurrence.
Anonymous S double-posted this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,348
Anonymous G replied with this 13 hours ago, 39 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,349
Syntax joined in and replied with this 13 hours ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,350
@previous (G)
In a way I wood love to agree with you but You and I both live about equal distance to:
Without the Nuke Joint and it looks like this one is KaPuT for good now. The alternate for making Electricity is Oil burning with of course the Natural Gas power plant exception. So until they figure out how to get the power to the Electric Car without messing up Ozone Zone - I am holding back as Electric as answer. Have a couple of friends who work at Tesla Motors, doing control design and DC-AC conversion stuff.
Wood love to have one of those in my Garage instead of the BMW. Not until they find a way to power them up without the mess up.
In a way I wood love to agree with you but You and I both live about equal distance to:
Without the Nuke Joint and it looks like this one is KaPuT for good now. The alternate for making Electricity is Oil burning with of course the Natural Gas power plant exception. So until they figure out how to get the power to the Electric Car without messing up Ozone Zone - I am holding back as Electric as answer. Have a couple of friends who work at Tesla Motors, doing control design and DC-AC conversion stuff.
Wood love to have one of those in my Garage instead of the BMW. Not until they find a way to power them up without the mess up.
Anonymous G replied with this 13 hours ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,351
@previous (Syntax)Since you're here, you can confirm: all of the equipment in this photo is considered EVSE
Syntax replied with this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,352
@previous (G)
DID not look at youtube but did this and quick skim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotty_Bowers
Quick skim only - Doubt I even met him given those on list of QUICK Skim were not in my circle EXCEPT one Gal who every Sunday for a couple years I was dinner guest and only because a very important sweet blue eyed cousin's dad MY Uncle worked for the Husband of the Gal I no that is mentioned in that wiki and she has passed away with much great publicity along with daughter
I spent a few years on a project called Discovision as VP at Universal Studios/MCA - And met a few actors etc and damn am glad I got the hell away from anything movie or recording wise related - The CEO OF MCA/Universal who's daughter and I share a first name with - He was fukin mean and nasty but one hell of a smart ATTORNEY who told me he buys and owns Meat and he meant Meat as in Actors and Actresses and that fool thought he owned me because I chose to take his money and fill my wallet
But some fond memories of the work accomplished and betting one 3Letter Gov agency thought they were doing me a favor by pushing me to get some of their technology into the marketplace - Product FAILED yet the Patents produced a fortune for without them no CD's No DVD's NO laser read write including simple check out cash registers. And I got a chance to fully understand the Music Biz in total as need to get $$$ to fund the Discovision project
OP danks for the memories
DID not look at youtube but did this and quick skim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotty_Bowers
Quick skim only - Doubt I even met him given those on list of QUICK Skim were not in my circle EXCEPT one Gal who every Sunday for a couple years I was dinner guest and only because a very important sweet blue eyed cousin's dad MY Uncle worked for the Husband of the Gal I no that is mentioned in that wiki and she has passed away with much great publicity along with daughter
I spent a few years on a project called Discovision as VP at Universal Studios/MCA - And met a few actors etc and damn am glad I got the hell away from anything movie or recording wise related - The CEO OF MCA/Universal who's daughter and I share a first name with - He was fukin mean and nasty but one hell of a smart ATTORNEY who told me he buys and owns Meat and he meant Meat as in Actors and Actresses and that fool thought he owned me because I chose to take his money and fill my wallet
But some fond memories of the work accomplished and betting one 3Letter Gov agency thought they were doing me a favor by pushing me to get some of their technology into the marketplace - Product FAILED yet the Patents produced a fortune for without them no CD's No DVD's NO laser read write including simple check out cash registers. And I got a chance to fully understand the Music Biz in total as need to get $$$ to fund the Discovision project
OP danks for the memories
Anonymous G replied with this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,353
Syntax replied with this 13 hours ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,355
@previous (G)
Mid 40's and WE as in a group of workmates bought 4 of them Quickly - Three for each of us to use and one to take apart in total.
Memories of taking the head apart - I should have been the last person for that task cause me and Mechanical contraptions usually do not make a good mix - I take something apart and put back together and always have parts left over yet the device WORKS.
Did ok as kiddlet rebuilding a Carburetor - Three and then a Transmission and that was fun cause the parts are wayyyyyy too large to leave anything out - But the Head of that Beta player was a joy of engineering - I also took a teletype machine fully apart but needed much help getting it back together but so many techs near by trained by Military made that as simple as inviting them over for moms dinners.
Beta machine was a work of ART - VHS machines just JUNK - Worked/Works but JUNK - Poor image as result compared to Beta - Fact is 100% of Pro broadcasters used ONLY Beta machines - VHS just Crap
AND Syntax was the very 1st person to witness LaserDisk recording with hands on HELP - Damn just Damn that was one hell of a fun R&D project - I take NO personal credit for invention and design but in total Credit for making it happen and coming up with the money to make that happen - Discovision was a PRODUCT Failure YET in total the Patents are still 2Day paying off Mega Millions of Royalties - Plus because Solid State has now replaced Need for Laser recording and readout for some Reason BlueRay, is still a hot product AND AND the Solid State SSD type devices require USE of the Discovision Patents to make the IC's
Just fucking amazing and as much as it bugs the shit out of me - Crazy as all fuck CEO/Attorney Lew Wasserman founder of Universal Studios and twice Loser B4 US Supreme Court - ENDS UP Being so MAD AS ALL FUCK AT SONY BETA - He says HEY WE Stamp out Vinyl records at MCA/Decca by the zillions so why NOT just put Movies on Vinyl - Total wack job idea - Mass of Engineers he hired as consultants laffed in his face - Me did not No enough to Laff and told the guy Hey I have no clue what can be done for video on a record format size wize, but can tell you Engineers wood have NO CLUE - So U B interviewing the Rong people
I did have background on state of art for Spy in Sky memory which is shocking just Shocking in the way Hughes Malibu invented the How2's. I was just a very young engineer who said Really U got2 be kidding with how you plan to store information in SPACE - Yet they did for years and years - Boggles my mind still 2Day
{Info was put on something called a Memoscope which was Cathode Ray Tube "CRT's" of 5 Inches in size with Three each needed IN SPACE in a Satellite and a Camera with Film running at rather fast speed to record the CRT Memoscope Image - Then the Film wood get all full of Info and have to be dumped from SPACE down down to a Net that was held between aircraft so the Film wood fall into the Net for recovery) Totally crazy yet it worked most of the time FOR YEARS and Years as well as in U2 Spy plane and other many other Recon Aircraft like F104's and F105's and converted Tankers for Spy from Sky
Damn Memory has cum a long way - Being OLDER does mean having the time to experience a wide wide WIDE range of Stuff
So I new a mountain climbing buddy who was Senior Scientist for Hughes in total - I said hey given the dimensions of a Vinyl Record just how much information could be put in such space Science/Physics wise and low and behold with 3D Calculus (Vectors) He derived the limits - Turns out one can put every movie ever made on just one disk - So just a two hour movie should be Simple LoL
Y the word salad? For a team who has hands on models of future of 6G and 7G for 2024 or so - Because one part of one model made in multiples so as to be deployed to other cities for play - Has a major part pulled out of a brand new Microwave Oven - It's HUGE in size and takes two hands to fully hold that one part - The KEY Part which of course has to be one day Miniaturized - Then Real Ray guns will be possible - For now that is some other engineers team problem.
Wood take a Rack of Gear to do what the one part of Oven does currently if Solid State were to be used - Part current use tends to explode so boxes of new ovens are on standby - Manufacture will NOT sell that part by self currently - Making them by hand is possible but when one can just by the ovens why bother
OK soon must depart to meet with team at a Verizon site which by Co~Wink~e~Dink is just 2 minutes from my 24 Hour fitness Gym - I just love being able to change billing hours on my way to that Gym
Mid 40's and WE as in a group of workmates bought 4 of them Quickly - Three for each of us to use and one to take apart in total.
Memories of taking the head apart - I should have been the last person for that task cause me and Mechanical contraptions usually do not make a good mix - I take something apart and put back together and always have parts left over yet the device WORKS.
Did ok as kiddlet rebuilding a Carburetor - Three and then a Transmission and that was fun cause the parts are wayyyyyy too large to leave anything out - But the Head of that Beta player was a joy of engineering - I also took a teletype machine fully apart but needed much help getting it back together but so many techs near by trained by Military made that as simple as inviting them over for moms dinners.
Beta machine was a work of ART - VHS machines just JUNK - Worked/Works but JUNK - Poor image as result compared to Beta - Fact is 100% of Pro broadcasters used ONLY Beta machines - VHS just Crap
AND Syntax was the very 1st person to witness LaserDisk recording with hands on HELP - Damn just Damn that was one hell of a fun R&D project - I take NO personal credit for invention and design but in total Credit for making it happen and coming up with the money to make that happen - Discovision was a PRODUCT Failure YET in total the Patents are still 2Day paying off Mega Millions of Royalties - Plus because Solid State has now replaced Need for Laser recording and readout for some Reason BlueRay, is still a hot product AND AND the Solid State SSD type devices require USE of the Discovision Patents to make the IC's
Just fucking amazing and as much as it bugs the shit out of me - Crazy as all fuck CEO/Attorney Lew Wasserman founder of Universal Studios and twice Loser B4 US Supreme Court - ENDS UP Being so MAD AS ALL FUCK AT SONY BETA - He says HEY WE Stamp out Vinyl records at MCA/Decca by the zillions so why NOT just put Movies on Vinyl - Total wack job idea - Mass of Engineers he hired as consultants laffed in his face - Me did not No enough to Laff and told the guy Hey I have no clue what can be done for video on a record format size wize, but can tell you Engineers wood have NO CLUE - So U B interviewing the Rong people
I did have background on state of art for Spy in Sky memory which is shocking just Shocking in the way Hughes Malibu invented the How2's. I was just a very young engineer who said Really U got2 be kidding with how you plan to store information in SPACE - Yet they did for years and years - Boggles my mind still 2Day
{Info was put on something called a Memoscope which was Cathode Ray Tube "CRT's" of 5 Inches in size with Three each needed IN SPACE in a Satellite and a Camera with Film running at rather fast speed to record the CRT Memoscope Image - Then the Film wood get all full of Info and have to be dumped from SPACE down down to a Net that was held between aircraft so the Film wood fall into the Net for recovery) Totally crazy yet it worked most of the time FOR YEARS and Years as well as in U2 Spy plane and other many other Recon Aircraft like F104's and F105's and converted Tankers for Spy from Sky
Damn Memory has cum a long way - Being OLDER does mean having the time to experience a wide wide WIDE range of Stuff
So I new a mountain climbing buddy who was Senior Scientist for Hughes in total - I said hey given the dimensions of a Vinyl Record just how much information could be put in such space Science/Physics wise and low and behold with 3D Calculus (Vectors) He derived the limits - Turns out one can put every movie ever made on just one disk - So just a two hour movie should be Simple LoL
Y the word salad? For a team who has hands on models of future of 6G and 7G for 2024 or so - Because one part of one model made in multiples so as to be deployed to other cities for play - Has a major part pulled out of a brand new Microwave Oven - It's HUGE in size and takes two hands to fully hold that one part - The KEY Part which of course has to be one day Miniaturized - Then Real Ray guns will be possible - For now that is some other engineers team problem.
Wood take a Rack of Gear to do what the one part of Oven does currently if Solid State were to be used - Part current use tends to explode so boxes of new ovens are on standby - Manufacture will NOT sell that part by self currently - Making them by hand is possible but when one can just by the ovens why bother
OK soon must depart to meet with team at a Verizon site which by Co~Wink~e~Dink is just 2 minutes from my 24 Hour fitness Gym - I just love being able to change billing hours on my way to that Gym
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 12 hours ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,363,364
Tesla are crap cars