A coherent strategy by serious people to protect their own national interests and security.
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A vow to stand with Ukraine for as long as it takes.
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Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 17 minutes later[^][v]#1,348,396
I'm not surprised the US cut Europe out of the negotiations. Can you imagine all those clowns arguing with each other over the best approach and then committing to nothing.
Erik !saAqdaazn2 double-posted this 3 months ago, 41 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,348,397
Maybe Germany will offer 5000 hot water bottles for when their power stations get blown up.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,401
Breaking News! Sir Keir Starmer has changed the Utterly Meaningless Slogan from "For As Long As It Takes" to "We Must Put Ukraine In The Strongest Possible Position".
More to follow...
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,404
It's possible the war will intensify as European leaders might relax weapon usage restrictions and donations limitations
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,405
More Breaking News!
Sir Keir Starmer has said Europe must "step up" its support of Ukraine.
Full quote:
"Europe must step up its support of Ukraine" - Sir Keir Starmer.
Green !!bO/s3MBcD joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 36 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,407
> You are just looking at it through your British bubble.
No, he's looking at it through the lens of basic sanity. If Europe was going to risk even the slightest chance of war with Russia over Ukraine, a country nobody really gives a shit about and never did, they'd have done it 3 years ago when their master was protecting them. Zero chance they're doing it now that America has put them back in their little kennels.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,411
Excerpt from Sir Keir Starmer's interview in Paris:
"Prime Minister, what is your response to Sergey Lavrov's comment just now that it would be pointless to involve the UK and EU in negotiations because all you've done for the last 3 years is regurgitate the same set of utterly meaningless slogans over and over again?"
"SLAVA UKRAINI!!"
"Thank you Prime Minister"
Anonymous C replied with this 3 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,412
Oh and I suppose the EU ignoring Putin crying of nuclear war counts for nothing and Russians dying in a fight over the country that nobody cares about.... Means nothing?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,413
Another except:
"Prime Minister, you've said Europe needs to step up its support for Ukraine. What precisely, concretely and with realistic attention to actual military and budgetary facts, does that mean?"
"Vladimir Putin's brutal and unprovoked attack on Ukraine must not be allowed to prevail"
"Thank you Prime Minister"
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,414
I like how you ignored my other point of how you said nobody cared about Ukraine yet Russians themselves are dying for it. I suppose that's a yes for you, Russians being sent to die for something doesn't count for anything apparently.
I also like how you ignore all the other nuclear threats, the threats of world destruction by hellfire, for a country that nobody cares about 😂
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,416
So it has always just been about destroying a country that they don't even care about? Very noble and valuable use of Russian blood. Is that why Putin is unable to defeat a country on their door step? He doesn't really care about the country or who controls it, he just thought he would lower the amount of men in Russia?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,429
I suppose it's something to remind people like yourself, that this was only planned as a special military operation to begin with. Here's Wikipedia on the matter:
Three-day war plan
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Russia had reportedly hoped to take Kyiv rapidly and to remove the Ukrainian government, allowing the installation of a pro-Russian government.[8][9] Russia positioned a large force in Belarus, which crossed the border and invaded the north of Ukraine, while other forces attacked from the east of Ukraine (occupied territories of the Donbass) and from Crimea in the south.[10]
After the start of the invasion, Ukrainian and Western analysts tentatively assessed that Putin seemed to have assumed that the Russian Armed Forces would be capable of capturing the Ukrainian capital city of Kyiv within days. This assessment eventually led to the commonly reached conclusion that "taking Kyiv in three days" had been the original objective or expectation of the invasion.[11][12][13]
Aleksandr Lukashenko had already stated that, in case of war, Kyiv would be taken in "3 - 4 days".[14][15] Margarita Simonyan, editor-in-chief of the Russian state-controlled broadcaster RT, had made similar remarks about Russia being able to "defeat Ukraine in 2 days".[16] The narrative of the planned "three day" capture of Kyiv was further reinforced on 2 March, when the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) repeated the claim following its release of a video showing a captured Russian soldier claiming that his unit was sent into Ukraine with food supplies for only three days.[17][18] Documents found inside Russian tanks mention how the "special military operation" would conclude in ten days.[19] Ukraine also captured "flagship" tanks - as used in parades - along with military parade uniforms, suggesting that Russia expected to stage a victory parade in Kyiv after a quick conquest.[20][21] Three days after the invasion began, RIA Novosti, a Russian state news agency, mistakenly published an article entitled "Russia's Coming and the New World," which was prepared in advance in anticipation of a Russian victory. It announced that Russia had won the Russo-Ukrainian war and that "Ukraine had returned to Russia".[22][23] Zelenskyy also admitted that he had received an ultimatum to be replaced with Viktor Medvedchuk.[24][25]
Erik !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 3 months ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,445
Germany to send 10000 motivational posters to Ukraine as their way of support. No wall tacs included in case they are used as an offencive weapon.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 28 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,446
> Ukrainian and Western analysts tentatively assessed
Thanks, that'll be all.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) double-posted this 3 months ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,450
Another excerpt:
"Prime Minister, what do you say to your own military commanders and former heads of MI6 who say that these promises you keep making are literally impossible for you to follow through on without totally gutting public spending and exacerbating the social problems that have led to the rise of the so-called far-right all across Europe?"
"Vladimir Putin launched a brutal and unprovoked attack on the Ukrainian people and we are committed to standing with them for as long as it takes"
"Thank you Prime Minister"
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) triple-posted this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,455
Breaking News!
Olaf Scholz, who is out of a job in 7 days and has announced he will retire from politics after that, says that Europe must step up its support of Ukraine and must do more to find extra funding for Ukraine.
Full quote:
"Europe must step up its support of Ukraine and must do more to find extra funding for Ukraine"
Scholz said this meeting in Paris was absolutely vital so that European leaders could make these observations.
"No, we could not have simply retweeted any of our 89,000 tweets from the last 3 years" Scholz said, visibly bristling at the suggestion.
More to come.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 20 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,458
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > "Europe must step up its support of Ukraine and must do more to find extra funding for Ukraine"
If it's only "funding," we could just cut a check for a few billion dollars "To: Putin" to go away. It's not actually about funding. They want 100's of thousands of lives to throw into the grinder and bombs and drones to kill the Russians... pretty dishonest really.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc (OP) replied with this 3 months ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,474
I'm not even making this one up. From Starmer's press conference just now:
"It's time Europe took responsibility for its own security"
Less than 1 minute later...
"Any peace agreement must come with a US guarantee, otherwise it will not be enough to deter further aggression"
That's 'taking responsibility' is it, "Sir"? The entirety of the European continent can't "deter" Russia from attacking Ukraine again? What happened to the Russian military being a pathetic bunch of alcoholics and prisoners? The "2nd best army in Ukraine" as Starmer once quipped?
Pathetic little yapping chihuahua, I hope Putin makes him fuck a pig on TV Black Mirror style in return for a promise not to bomb London into the stone age once America withdraws its protection.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 3 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,348,531
@1,348,410 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc) > a country nobody really gives a shit about
Odd how history constantly repeats itself...
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 3 months ago, 5 days later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,349,684
Russian invasion of Europe begins anew.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 3 weeks later, 1 month after the original post[^][v]#1,355,315
@1,348,474 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
There's another guy.