Topic: I guess apparently I can't leave the country.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI started this discussion 1 year ago #123,498
Los Angeles county is apparently confiscating transgender individuals' personal documents when applying for a passport. There is no way in hell I'm allowing them to take my documentation, but that also means I can't get a U.S. passport in order for me to leave to the nation. Even if it's just for leisure.
I don't like this. This feels like a bad omen if this is the incentive not to get a passport. It feels like you have to now be an undocumented immigrate to another country if you want to get out before shit starts flying.
I'm honestly fucking scared.
I don't like this. This feels like a bad omen if this is the incentive not to get a passport. It feels like you have to now be an undocumented immigrate to another country if you want to get out before shit starts flying.
I'm honestly fucking scared.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,345,098
My question is what would they arrested her for since 'being transgender' isn't illegal (yet). And 'gender dysphoria' is still a medical diagnosis. This sounds like grounds for a massive lawsuit.Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,099
It's a fascist coup led by Trump and his goonies. Something needs to be done.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 40 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,100
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 21 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,101
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) triple-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,102
@1,345,099 (B)
My question is that this still sounds illegal and could land them in hot water. The American justice system is a complete mess, but I know this messy allows for all sorts of lawsuits. If it didn't then Trump wouldn't have several against him already both in 2024 and back in 2016. I just want to know what to do to better prepare myself for the next four years and to make sure my documentations aren't confiscated. I'm also going to make several copies of them in case they try to erase this from existence.
My question is that this still sounds illegal and could land them in hot water. The American justice system is a complete mess, but I know this messy allows for all sorts of lawsuits. If it didn't then Trump wouldn't have several against him already both in 2024 and back in 2016. I just want to know what to do to better prepare myself for the next four years and to make sure my documentations aren't confiscated. I'm also going to make several copies of them in case they try to erase this from existence.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,104
@previous (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
The American justice system is pointless with a fascist dictator. I'm scared, too, for other reasons, and I'm scared for you. I don't understand why the Democrats in Congress won't do something.
The American justice system is pointless with a fascist dictator. I'm scared, too, for other reasons, and I'm scared for you. I don't understand why the Democrats in Congress won't do something.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,105
@previous (B)
If the American justice system is completely pointless then how come a civil courts judge was able to completely block a transgender woman from being transferred to a men's prison facility?
There are little caveats like that which could end up saving the day.
If the American justice system is completely pointless then how come a civil courts judge was able to completely block a transgender woman from being transferred to a men's prison facility?
There are little caveats like that which could end up saving the day.
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,107
You rarely leave your small town, let alone state, let alone country. I wouldn't worry about it, Catherine.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,109
@previous (C)
Fuck off. The US is in a fascist takeover and you're still obsessed with strangers' genitals.
Fuck off. The US is in a fascist takeover and you're still obsessed with strangers' genitals.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 25 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,117
@1,345,098 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> My question is what would they arrested her for since 'being transgender' isn't illegal (yet).
If the official federal position is now that there are two genders, and yours was determined when your chromosomes were set then a trans person identifying with their preferred gender would technically be lying on a federal form.
@1,345,104 (B)
What do you expect them to do? They are the minority in both chambers.
> My question is what would they arrested her for since 'being transgender' isn't illegal (yet).
If the official federal position is now that there are two genders, and yours was determined when your chromosomes were set then a trans person identifying with their preferred gender would technically be lying on a federal form.
@1,345,104 (B)
What do you expect them to do? They are the minority in both chambers.
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Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,118
Catherine joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,119
This is probably so those big and nasty Republicans can get trans sex slaves!
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,120
@1,345,117 (D)
> If the official federal position is now that there are two genders, and yours was determined when your chromosomes were set then a trans person identifying with their preferred gender would technically be lying on a federal form.
That's the thing though. This sounds like a massive legal gray area since the documentation would reflect the person's identifying gender. A.k.a. a federal form that reflects said gender. There would also be a court order form too.
Isn't this a legal gray area?
> If the official federal position is now that there are two genders, and yours was determined when your chromosomes were set then a trans person identifying with their preferred gender would technically be lying on a federal form.
That's the thing though. This sounds like a massive legal gray area since the documentation would reflect the person's identifying gender. A.k.a. a federal form that reflects said gender. There would also be a court order form too.
Isn't this a legal gray area?
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,121
Is a birth certificate a federal or state document?
And what about a social security card?
And what about a social security card?
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) triple-posted this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,122
@previous (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
Alright, so apparently, a birth certificate is a state document. However, a social security card is a federal document. So, I fail to see how this would make it lying on a federal form if your SSID matches your other documentation and that's a federal form.
Alright, so apparently, a birth certificate is a state document. However, a social security card is a federal document. So, I fail to see how this would make it lying on a federal form if your SSID matches your other documentation and that's a federal form.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,123
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,127
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,140
boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,143
we could get super specific and complicated and genetically analyze everyone at birth and take a pic of the crotch and slap all that shit on the full sheet poster sized document
X/Y chromosome pattern of left ear lobe cells:
chimeric/mosaicism status:
if yes, list any other X/Y chromosome patterns found:
hermaphroditic status:
intersexual status:
obvious cock:
obvious cunt:
and like that
X/Y chromosome pattern of left ear lobe cells:
chimeric/mosaicism status:
if yes, list any other X/Y chromosome patterns found:
hermaphroditic status:
intersexual status:
obvious cock:
obvious cunt:
and like that
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,144
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,153
@1,345,118 (B)
There are many democrats doing this already. They could make a bigger show of it, but to what end? You don't win politics by expressing outrage, and that's a lesson the democrats never learn.
@1,345,120 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
If it's taken to court Trump has the supreme court on his side.
@1,345,122 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> I fail to see how this would make it lying on a federal form if your SSID matches your other documentation and that's a federal form.
They already said they were basing it off of sex "at conception", they'll just ignore state documents and say Federal law supersedes state.
There are many democrats doing this already. They could make a bigger show of it, but to what end? You don't win politics by expressing outrage, and that's a lesson the democrats never learn.
@1,345,120 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
If it's taken to court Trump has the supreme court on his side.
@1,345,122 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> I fail to see how this would make it lying on a federal form if your SSID matches your other documentation and that's a federal form.
They already said they were basing it off of sex "at conception", they'll just ignore state documents and say Federal law supersedes state.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,174
@previous (D)
Doesn’t the birth certificate keep track of conception at birth? Isn’t that the purpose of the document? If the changes reflect that on the document then how the fuck do they know what the sex is at birth without at least a court order to prove that. I think a few states that allow for alterations actually removes the original document.
And any local court judge can still make another call that sends it back to the Supreme Court. I think I remember this happening once. This could create a problem.
Doesn’t the birth certificate keep track of conception at birth? Isn’t that the purpose of the document? If the changes reflect that on the document then how the fuck do they know what the sex is at birth without at least a court order to prove that. I think a few states that allow for alterations actually removes the original document.
And any local court judge can still make another call that sends it back to the Supreme Court. I think I remember this happening once. This could create a problem.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 29 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,175
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,177
I think you should get confirmation that this actually happened and try to get your passport
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 year ago, 27 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,178
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,198
None of that nonsense in those tweets reflects the actual process of getting a U.S. Passport. You don't walk away with a passport after handing in your application. You always send the application with copies of your vital records. In reality nothing was "confiscated". And if this story is in any way real, maybe next time the person shouldn't rock up and say "I'm trans, by the way"
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,200
@previous (I)
I was feeling like something about this isnt correct
But they definitely are not allowing people to change their gender markers at this time. That is true
I was feeling like something about this isnt correct
But they definitely are not allowing people to change their gender markers at this time. That is true
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,202
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
A reminder for ALL.
Male sperm (\(Y\)) contain a Y chromosome, while female sperm (\(X\)) contain an X chromosome.
The sex of a baby is determined by which chromosome the sperm contributes to the egg
A reminder for ALL.
Male sperm (\(Y\)) contain a Y chromosome, while female sperm (\(X\)) contain an X chromosome.
The sex of a baby is determined by which chromosome the sperm contributes to the egg
Meta joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,204
@OP
You can jump the border and move to Mexico. You don’t need any passport or anything it’s your human right!
You can jump the border and move to Mexico. You don’t need any passport or anything it’s your human right!
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 16 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,205
PootMaster69™ !MQMkPPf/VY joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,209
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 36 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,210
@1,345,205 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)I reply with basic Biology 101 with accurate information and you get upset.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,213
@1,345,209 (PootMaster69™ !MQMkPPf/VY)
@previous (J)
Because there isn't only two and you weren't correct
@previous (J)
Because there isn't only two and you weren't correct
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Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,215
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
OK IF and only IF you allow for Genetic fuck ups which happen.
About 1 in 400 male and 1 in 650 female births in the United States have sex chromosome abnormalities.
The most common sex chromosome abnormalities are Turner syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, XYY syndrome, and XXX trisomy.
These conditions can cause developmental and intellectual disabilities, including language and reading problems.
However, the symptoms of sex chromosome abnormalities are usually less severe than those of autosomal abnormalities.
Examples of sex chromosome abnormalities
Turner syndrome: 45,X
Klinefelter syndrome: 47,XXY
XYY syndrome: 47,XYY
XXX trisomy: 47,XXX
Sex chromosome abnormalities - UpToDate
Apr 22, 2024 — The most common sex chromosome aneuploidies are 45,X (Turner syndrome); 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome); 47,XYY (XYY syn...
Wolters Kluwer
Sex Chromosome Abnormalities - Human genetic disease - Britannica
Jan 16, 2025 — About 1 in 400 male and 1 in 650 female live births demonstrate some form of sex chromosome abnormality, although the ...
Increased prevalence of sex chromosome aneuploidies in ...
Sex chromosome aneuploidies, such as XXY, XYY, and XXX trisomies, occur within the general population at a rate of approximately 1...
National Institutes of Health (NIH) (.gov)
Now for the Mentally Challenged we have:Frequency. Klinefelter syndrome (XXY aneuploidy) is the most common human sex chromosome disorder. Approximately 1 in 500-600 males is born with an extra X chromosome. The prevalence rate is 5-20 times higher in males who are mentally challenged than in the general male population.
OK IF and only IF you allow for Genetic fuck ups which happen.
About 1 in 400 male and 1 in 650 female births in the United States have sex chromosome abnormalities.
The most common sex chromosome abnormalities are Turner syndrome, Klinefelter syndrome, XYY syndrome, and XXX trisomy.
These conditions can cause developmental and intellectual disabilities, including language and reading problems.
However, the symptoms of sex chromosome abnormalities are usually less severe than those of autosomal abnormalities.
Examples of sex chromosome abnormalities
Turner syndrome: 45,X
Klinefelter syndrome: 47,XXY
XYY syndrome: 47,XYY
XXX trisomy: 47,XXX
Sex chromosome abnormalities - UpToDate
Apr 22, 2024 — The most common sex chromosome aneuploidies are 45,X (Turner syndrome); 47,XXY (Klinefelter syndrome); 47,XYY (XYY syn...
Wolters Kluwer
Sex Chromosome Abnormalities - Human genetic disease - Britannica
Jan 16, 2025 — About 1 in 400 male and 1 in 650 female live births demonstrate some form of sex chromosome abnormality, although the ...
Increased prevalence of sex chromosome aneuploidies in ...
Sex chromosome aneuploidies, such as XXY, XYY, and XXX trisomies, occur within the general population at a rate of approximately 1...
National Institutes of Health (NIH) (.gov)
Now for the Mentally Challenged we have:Frequency. Klinefelter syndrome (XXY aneuploidy) is the most common human sex chromosome disorder. Approximately 1 in 500-600 males is born with an extra X chromosome. The prevalence rate is 5-20 times higher in males who are mentally challenged than in the general male population.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,216
@previous (J)
You wouldn't say people with red hair don't exist. Similar numbers of gingers as the "genetic fuckups", yet you can still put "red hair" on your Government Id
You wouldn't say people with red hair don't exist. Similar numbers of gingers as the "genetic fuckups", yet you can still put "red hair" on your Government Id
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,217
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,224
@1,345,216 (I)
Red hair is a recessive genetic trait caused by mutations in the melanocortin 1 receptor (MC1R) gene. This gene is located on chromosome 16.
Red hair variants in the MC1R gene likely first appeared in ancient humans 30,000–80,000 years ago
OK So Adam and Eve's family did NOT have red hair.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Of course you can allow for what is close to home. And perhaps a few members of LGBTqxyz have the anomalies.
Red hair is a recessive genetic trait caused by mutations in the melanocortin 1 receptor (MC1R) gene. This gene is located on chromosome 16.
Red hair variants in the MC1R gene likely first appeared in ancient humans 30,000–80,000 years ago
OK So Adam and Eve's family did NOT have red hair.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Of course you can allow for what is close to home. And perhaps a few members of LGBTqxyz have the anomalies.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,226
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,228
@1,345,174 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> Doesn’t the birth certificate keep track of conception at birth? Isn’t that the purpose of the document? If the changes reflect that on the document then how the fuck do they know what the sex is at birth without at least a court order to prove that. I think a few states that allow for alterations actually removes the original document.
Yes, but the federal government isn't required to follow the sex recorded by a state.
They can prove someone is trans if they have a record of a gender change request at the federal agency.
> And any local court judge can still make another call that sends it back to the Supreme Court. I think I remember this happening once. This could create a problem.
The Supreme Court is on Trump's side.
@1,345,175 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
Conception meaning the creation of the zygote.
@1,345,213 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@1,345,217 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
There are mutations that exist outside the two common sexes, but they usually end up with a phenotype of one of the two. There is no third set of genitals distinct from the first two, and no culture has ever developed a third gender based on some third sex.
> Doesn’t the birth certificate keep track of conception at birth? Isn’t that the purpose of the document? If the changes reflect that on the document then how the fuck do they know what the sex is at birth without at least a court order to prove that. I think a few states that allow for alterations actually removes the original document.
Yes, but the federal government isn't required to follow the sex recorded by a state.
They can prove someone is trans if they have a record of a gender change request at the federal agency.
> And any local court judge can still make another call that sends it back to the Supreme Court. I think I remember this happening once. This could create a problem.
The Supreme Court is on Trump's side.
@1,345,175 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
Conception meaning the creation of the zygote.
@1,345,213 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
@1,345,217 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
There are mutations that exist outside the two common sexes, but they usually end up with a phenotype of one of the two. There is no third set of genitals distinct from the first two, and no culture has ever developed a third gender based on some third sex.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,229
@1,345,226 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I take a little time to hit the web and ask for accurate information. Accurate FACTS trigger you.
Why not try facts yourself instead of insults.
I take a little time to hit the web and ask for accurate information. Accurate FACTS trigger you.
Why not try facts yourself instead of insults.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 41 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,230
@1,345,098 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> And 'gender dysphoria' is still a medical diagnosis.
So is 'the flu'. But I don't get that put in my passport.
> And 'gender dysphoria' is still a medical diagnosis.
So is 'the flu'. But I don't get that put in my passport.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,231
@1,345,228 (D)
There are ambiguous genitalia and genitalia isn't always connected to whether one has XX or XY
There are ambiguous genitalia and genitalia isn't always connected to whether one has XX or XY
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 year ago, 16 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,232
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,238
@1,345,231 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1u75hh/i_am_the_guy_with_two_penises_ama/
The subject of this reddit has a normal Y chromosome.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,239
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 55 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,251
two many cocks for my liking
boof double-posted this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,255
another factor to account for on the large form: yes on presence of Y chromosome, but no on SRY gene (Sex-determining Region)
you see, you can have a Y and yet develop as though female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
you see, you can have a Y and yet develop as though female.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,260
@previous (boof)
You will NOT find this from your link. The real question is how many people?
According to medical sources, XY gonadal dysgenesis, also known as Swyer syndrome,
affects approximately 1 in 80,000 people.
This means it is a very rare condition.'
You will NOT find this from your link. The real question is how many people?
According to medical sources, XY gonadal dysgenesis, also known as Swyer syndrome,
affects approximately 1 in 80,000 people.
This means it is a very rare condition.'
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,261
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,263
@previous (boof)
Your link provides lots of information. It does NOT contain how rare the condition is.
Your link provides lots of information. It does NOT contain how rare the condition is.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,264
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 7 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,295
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 54 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,298
@1,345,228 (D)
> They can prove someone is trans if they have a record of a gender change request at the federal agency.
lol no you can't, there could have been a typographical error or any number of other bureaucratic mishaps
> They can prove someone is trans if they have a record of a gender change request at the federal agency.
lol no you can't, there could have been a typographical error or any number of other bureaucratic mishaps
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,299
I’m not reading this but LA County doesn’t issue passports. Passport agencies are private businesses that fill out the forms for people who are too stupid/lazy to do it themselves
Just go to a post office
Just go to a post office
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 27 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,305
@1,345,298 (I)
Their records will have a note or checked box indicating the reason for the change to the records. If they were sent a copy of a court order then it will be clear why the gender was changed.
Their records will have a note or checked box indicating the reason for the change to the records. If they were sent a copy of a court order then it will be clear why the gender was changed.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,309
@previous (D)
Nope. That's still not proof of someone being trans. It's evidence that someone used a form to change their sex marker. Perhaps it was more convenient than some other bureaucratic process. Not even close to being proof of transgenderism.
Nope. That's still not proof of someone being trans. It's evidence that someone used a form to change their sex marker. Perhaps it was more convenient than some other bureaucratic process. Not even close to being proof of transgenderism.
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La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,310
@previous (I)
What if the person doesn’t identify with the “transgender” and “trans” labels? Would it basically become an issue of potentially clocking a possible cisgender person?
What if the person doesn’t identify with the “transgender” and “trans” labels? Would it basically become an issue of potentially clocking a possible cisgender person?
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 1 second later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,311
@1,345,309 (I)
What else would it be?
Regardless, it doesn't matter, they will just reverse these changes in the system because that's what it usually is. Citizens who say it's not enough proof will have to sue, and the courts are going to side with the administration.
What else would it be?
Regardless, it doesn't matter, they will just reverse these changes in the system because that's what it usually is. Citizens who say it's not enough proof will have to sue, and the courts are going to side with the administration.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,312
Anonymous I double-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,315
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 48 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,319
@1,345,312 (I)
The House just made members use a binary bathroom choice that corresponds to their biological sex. Federal agencies are sure to follow suit.
The House just made members use a binary bathroom choice that corresponds to their biological sex. Federal agencies are sure to follow suit.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,320
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,325
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,326
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,327
@1,345,315 (I)
Because how do they prove someone is trans if they don’t go around announcing it everywhere they go? You said that a court order form isn’t enough to prove someone is trans.
Because how do they prove someone is trans if they don’t go around announcing it everywhere they go? You said that a court order form isn’t enough to prove someone is trans.
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,330
This was another tweet where it's happened.Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,335
Chuckle Brother 2 !ErY2TknG0w replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,345
Awwww! Man is upset he can't leave the country. 😭😭😭😭
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,347
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,350
@1,345,319 (D)
> The House just made members use a binary bathroom choice that corresponds to their biological sex. Federal agencies are sure to follow suit.
> Wednesday
> Penis inspection day again
If they get real and call the rooms "Penispeople piss and shit room" and "Vaginapeople piss and shit room", very few would be upset after the cultural change settles in, but it WOULD be an all gender restroom situation regardless. Be careful what you wish for.
> The House just made members use a binary bathroom choice that corresponds to their biological sex. Federal agencies are sure to follow suit.
> Wednesday
> Penis inspection day again
If they get real and call the rooms "Penispeople piss and shit room" and "Vaginapeople piss and shit room", very few would be upset after the cultural change settles in, but it WOULD be an all gender restroom situation regardless. Be careful what you wish for.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,361
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,369
@previous (A)
Why do you have a problem filling out a form and being truthful?
You just check the box that says Male. You are still free to dress the way you want and pretend to be of some other sex.
Why do you have a problem filling out a form and being truthful?
You just check the box that says Male. You are still free to dress the way you want and pretend to be of some other sex.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,370
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,372
@1,345,369 (J)
How does this comment relate to the comment you responded to?
How does this comment relate to the comment you responded to?
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Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,373
@1,345,370 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
It's so very simple. US for a Passport requires proof of Birth. They must see your Birth Certificate. On Catalina's Cert it says Born Male
In filling out the form for the Passport you have to check one of two boxes re Sex. IF you lie on that form you could go to prison. For sure you would be denied a Passport for the rest of your life.
Catalina and other pretenders of some other sex, get all upset when they are forced to comfort the truth.
In USA one can pretend to be the other sex or even pretend to be an Animal or even a Virus with two legs.
It's so very simple. US for a Passport requires proof of Birth. They must see your Birth Certificate. On Catalina's Cert it says Born Male
In filling out the form for the Passport you have to check one of two boxes re Sex. IF you lie on that form you could go to prison. For sure you would be denied a Passport for the rest of your life.
Catalina and other pretenders of some other sex, get all upset when they are forced to comfort the truth.
In USA one can pretend to be the other sex or even pretend to be an Animal or even a Virus with two legs.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,374
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,375
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)As with any subject/topic on mc - I am free to give a damn or not. In this topic I give a damn.
The math for solving the Passport problem OP has is so simple. Just be honest when applying. Get the Passport and move on with life.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,404
@previous (J)
I didn't say you're not allowed to have an opinion i'm asking why you have such a strong opinion on a specific persons gender identity
I didn't say you're not allowed to have an opinion i'm asking why you have such a strong opinion on a specific persons gender identity
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,410
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)I have always supported the specific person in its right to role play and dress as it wishes and role on paint, to look as it wants to look.
Remember mc member Fox. I totally was ok with Fox wanting to role play a Fox.
Now bottom line on topic is what He and other LGBTqxyz encounter, when they insist on the US Gov approving of some other random sex.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,421
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,423
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Why don't you write out what you want me to say and I can probably help you with your problem with me.
Why don't you write out what you want me to say and I can probably help you with your problem with me.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 35 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,438
@previous (J)
Why do you have such a strong opinion on catherine that makes you want to post so much about it for years and years
Why do you have such a strong opinion on catherine that makes you want to post so much about it for years and years
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,440
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,451
@1,345,438 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
The TOPIC at hand is "Topic: I guess apparently I can't leave the country."
Catherine can get a Passport and Leave the country. He can even go to Mexico with the Correct California DMV that does require proof of citizenship with a birth certificate. He can even have it say female because California allows it.
dw you're triggered and hey that's ok with me.
@previous (I)
Stalking? He is not Indy the Grate. Nor do I stalk Indy but for sure reminding him of his Feces Fetish and failure at life is...
The TOPIC at hand is "Topic: I guess apparently I can't leave the country."
Catherine can get a Passport and Leave the country. He can even go to Mexico with the Correct California DMV that does require proof of citizenship with a birth certificate. He can even have it say female because California allows it.
dw you're triggered and hey that's ok with me.
@previous (I)
Stalking? He is not Indy the Grate. Nor do I stalk Indy but for sure reminding him of his Feces Fetish and failure at life is...
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 40 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,457
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 49 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,464
@1,345,215 (J)
The fact that you refer to intersex conditions as “genetic fuckup” is enough to tell me that you’re a fucking eugenicist and likely a Nazi. Your arguments mean nothing to me.
The fact that you refer to intersex conditions as “genetic fuckup” is enough to tell me that you’re a fucking eugenicist and likely a Nazi. Your arguments mean nothing to me.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,465
@previous (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> The fact that you refer to intersex conditions as “genetic fuckup” is enough to tell me that you’re a fucking eugenicist and likely a Nazi. Your arguments mean nothing to me.
While "genetic fuckup" is a needlessly offensive way to term it, it's nevertheless a factually accurate description.
> The fact that you refer to intersex conditions as “genetic fuckup” is enough to tell me that you’re a fucking eugenicist and likely a Nazi. Your arguments mean nothing to me.
While "genetic fuckup" is a needlessly offensive way to term it, it's nevertheless a factually accurate description.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,466
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,469
@1,345,464 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
They are genetic disorders, and they don't code for a third sex, but some mix of male and female phenotypes.
They are genetic disorders, and they don't code for a third sex, but some mix of male and female phenotypes.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,470
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,471
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
3rd Sex?
@1,345,464 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
Eugenics, I Don Not approve of such.
Genetic fuck ups are an occurrence, in nature gone crazy on occasion.
3rd Sex?
@1,345,464 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
Eugenics, I Don Not approve of such.
Genetic fuck ups are an occurrence, in nature gone crazy on occasion.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,474
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,476
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 27 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,477
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,481
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,525
@1,345,471 (J)
If it’s natural then it’s not a fuck up, you dumb cunt. That’s speech that only eugenicists tend to use trying to perfect and build upon what is already there in nature. Generic fuck ups imply it’s not natural but the very existence of it implies that it was pre-existing likely before humans in other species. Henceforth it’s natural. And if it’s natural then it’s something created by God. Why do you say God’s creation is a fuck up?
If it’s natural then it’s not a fuck up, you dumb cunt. That’s speech that only eugenicists tend to use trying to perfect and build upon what is already there in nature. Generic fuck ups imply it’s not natural but the very existence of it implies that it was pre-existing likely before humans in other species. Henceforth it’s natural. And if it’s natural then it’s something created by God. Why do you say God’s creation is a fuck up?
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 41 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,533
@previous (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> If it’s natural then it’s not a fuck up, you dumb cunt.
Many, meany things in nature are fuck ups. Natural doesn't necessitate good.
> If it’s natural then it’s not a fuck up, you dumb cunt.
Many, meany things in nature are fuck ups. Natural doesn't necessitate good.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,553
@1,345,451 (J)
There's also a topic about fucking your dog but your not spending years posting there
There's also a topic about fucking your dog but your not spending years posting there
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,573
@1,345,533 (D)
> Natural doesn’t necessitate good.
Definitely something a eugenicist would say. LMAO
Unless you’re just someone who thinks you know better than God.
> Natural doesn’t necessitate good.
Definitely something a eugenicist would say. LMAO
Unless you’re just someone who thinks you know better than God.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,586
@previous (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
And what do you know about god? That motherfucker made good and evil.
Also 100GET
And what do you know about god? That motherfucker made good and evil.
Also 100GET
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 39 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,590
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,602
@previous (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)God? I know this much about God. God is also a concept. Your God made Man out of plain dirt. He made Eve out of Adams Rib. Your God gave man only one option for reproduction INCEST.
So many Gods so little time. I defer to the Hindus or Buddhists as a more better alternative. And of course a Reminder. Your God created two options for Sexual ID - Man and Woman.
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,608
Can you get a passport even for your biological gender? Or literally no passport?
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,618
@previous (Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA)
Of course he can pony up $165 for his US Passport. What he wants to do is commit perjury and US Gov is not about to allow that to happen.
Of course he can pony up $165 for his US Passport. What he wants to do is commit perjury and US Gov is not about to allow that to happen.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,657
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 40 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,679
@1,345,602 (J)
I believe it was the U.S. government under the Trump administration that created those two gender options.
Also, why don’t you just come the fuck out and admit your an atheist?
I believe it was the U.S. government under the Trump administration that created those two gender options.
Also, why don’t you just come the fuck out and admit your an atheist?
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 40 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,680
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,694
@1,345,679 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
Will you come to my atheism reveal party? We're going to have a bonfire to see whose faith in God is weaker and then light fireworks in the dryest part of the state.
Will you come to my atheism reveal party? We're going to have a bonfire to see whose faith in God is weaker and then light fireworks in the dryest part of the state.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,700
@OP
> Also, why don’t you just come the fuck out and admit your an atheist?
I am a spiritual person. American Indians have some interesting ideas about the creation of our planet.
I totally believe the basis for the bible re God is just handed down fairy tails. Perhaps just as valid as Cinderella.
@1,345,680 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
I am not at all angry and as to my penis it is just a tad larger than text book number. Oh and as you know some of my baby batter produced a daughter. Perhaps even more butttttt I do NOT want to know those details.
@1,345,657 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Post? Topic? Reply?
More than happy to make more replies yet I doubt Cathy is about to understand.
> Also, why don’t you just come the fuck out and admit your an atheist?
I am a spiritual person. American Indians have some interesting ideas about the creation of our planet.
I totally believe the basis for the bible re God is just handed down fairy tails. Perhaps just as valid as Cinderella.
@1,345,680 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
I am not at all angry and as to my penis it is just a tad larger than text book number. Oh and as you know some of my baby batter produced a daughter. Perhaps even more butttttt I do NOT want to know those details.
@1,345,657 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Post? Topic? Reply?
More than happy to make more replies yet I doubt Cathy is about to understand.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,703
@previous (J)
A post is what's made after you click the post button like you've already done 20 times in this thread alone
A post is what's made after you click the post button like you've already done 20 times in this thread alone
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,704
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,743
@1,345,573 (La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI)
> > Natural doesn’t necessitate good.
> Definitely something a eugenicist would say. LMAO
You're using the same word to describe curing diseases as you are for ethnic genocide. Equivocation isn't clever.
> Unless you’re just someone who thinks you know better than God.
I'm not concerned about a sentient all-powerful creature smiting me because I'm opposed to disease.
> > Natural doesn’t necessitate good.
> Definitely something a eugenicist would say. LMAO
You're using the same word to describe curing diseases as you are for ethnic genocide. Equivocation isn't clever.
> Unless you’re just someone who thinks you know better than God.
I'm not concerned about a sentient all-powerful creature smiting me because I'm opposed to disease.
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,872
@1,345,602 (J)
Hare Krishna God damn, you can't just presume someone believes the judeo Christian God, especially when the post you cited said they knew nothing about God. Congrats on consistently hitting and missing the mark in all your posts. "Oh I'm totally on the side of Catherine, but I'm too stubborn to let go of my own systemic belief in two genders, although I'll flaunt my knowledge of polytheism"
Hare Krishna God damn, you can't just presume someone believes the judeo Christian God, especially when the post you cited said they knew nothing about God. Congrats on consistently hitting and missing the mark in all your posts. "Oh I'm totally on the side of Catherine, but I'm too stubborn to let go of my own systemic belief in two genders, although I'll flaunt my knowledge of polytheism"
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,890
@1,345,704 (J)
No problem it probably was a nice change of pace for you not to think about Catherine's gender for a few minutes
No problem it probably was a nice change of pace for you not to think about Catherine's gender for a few minutes
La Reina Catalina !j0siCathyI (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 27 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,345,892
@1,345,694 (I)
I'm talking about the elder here who a certain individual whose initials are MM seem to be obsessed with. Every time God gets mentioned he always has to post some shit about how God is a pussy, or a faggot, or rude, or mean, or a hater of humanity.
I'm talking about the elder here who a certain individual whose initials are MM seem to be obsessed with. Every time God gets mentioned he always has to post some shit about how God is a pussy, or a faggot, or rude, or mean, or a hater of humanity.