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Topic: The spirit of sloth takes over "Great" Britain.

Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #123,280

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2025/jan/27/two-hundred-uk-companies-sign-up-for-permanent-four-day-working-week

This is what Labour leadership does to the culture. Why not just ban work and print money for everyone?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 hours later[^] [v] #1,343,549

This is a good idea for people whose jobs are mostly fake anyway like tech and nonprofits.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 58 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,558

A four day working week has been proven to provide equal productivity, with significant bonuses to employee happiness and satisfaction. There's literally nothing to lose.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,625

Studies show four day workweeks are MORE productive. You just want to be angry and live in the past and be exploited.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 8 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,712

@1,343,558 (C)

> A four day working week has been proven to provide equal productivity

People with fake jobs have speculated it doesn't matter, but an actual research study with a significant sample size has never shown this.

Anonymous E double-posted this 1 year ago, 44 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,713

@1,343,625 (D)
No.

Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,714

@previous (E)
Yep.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danpontefract/2024/09/11/why-the-4-day-workweek-delivers-more-by-doing-less/

Anonymous E replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,715

@previous (D)
Is Forbes a peer reviewed journal?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,716

Anyone who works on their feet knows you can't eliminate a day and keep the same productivity.

Meta joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,717

@1,343,715 (E)
Even worse that's not actually Forbes magazine, but their "sites" which is a set of blogs wholly separate from the magazine.

Anonymous E replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,722

@previous (Meta)
And the blog cites a single company's internal data on an office of architects. Not published to any actual reputable journal.

Data on actual workers in that industry like structural engineers or carpenters would be worthwhile.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 26 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,728

@1,343,712 (E)

That's not true. It's been tested a lot. And now 200 companies are doing it, so even if you don't accept the ones that did it already you have to accept this.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,757

Kill yourself, OP, you fucking dicksucking faggot.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,786

@1,343,728 (C)
We're still waiting on one actual study.

Meta replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,839

@1,343,722 (E)
I do think Anon D is right though that he personally could work a 4, perhaps even 3 or 2 day workweek and not lose any productivity. I really do believe him!

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,855

@1,343,786 (A)

Who is "We"? And as for experiments, many local governments in the UK went onto a 4 day working week, and found improved productivity as a result. People were getting more done in less time, because there was less procrastination.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,884

@previous (C)

> Who is "We"?
Anyone curious to see this study.

> And as for experiments, many local governments in the UK went onto a 4 day working week, and found improved productivity as a result.
Bureaucrats, not actual working people.

> People were getting more done in less time, because there was less procrastination.
They probably had 1 day of real work to begin with, going to 4 days doesn't change anything.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 7 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,972

@previous (A)

> Bureaucrats, not actual working people.

I bet you've never worked in an office before, have you?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,980

@previous (C)
I work in an office, and most of the time people here are pretending to be busy.

Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,985

Yes, OP, a mere six months of a Labour government have turned everyone into lazy, woke socialists.

This has actually been a point of conversation in the UK for a while now, well before Labour got in last year. It did not come out of nowhere.

@1,343,786 (A)
You can easily Google it and find lots of academic literature talking about this, if you care to. Here, I'll do it for you. We'll look together:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=four+day+work+week&oq=four+day

Here's a meta-study, the first result. It looks pretty good, it takes a sceptical approach to the hype around 4DW, and finds some negatives as well as positives:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11301-023-00347-3

Just speaking personally, I'm kinda ambivalent about 4DW. Sure, it would be nice to have an extra day where I could play video games and tidy up my home, but I don't think it's necessarily some kind of magic bullet that will make everything great either, and it probably isn't right for every organisation.

Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,986

Oh, also, someone on Reddit made a great point about this: the article cites that "more than 5000" have been affected by this. In a country with a population of over 69 million, that is a drop in the ocean and hardly indicative of any big change.

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 9 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,344,159

@1,343,985 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
I'm familiar with the scholarly work in this area and papers showing no loss in productivity are confined to bourgeoisie sinecures.

@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
Corporate offices set a culture that ripples throughout the rest of the economy, a fish rots from the head.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,344,165

@previous (A)

Why aren't you working 7 days a week?

Indie the Grate joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 29 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,344,175

@previous (C)
Because he's Dave posting ragebait for attention. Thanks.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,344,201

@1,344,165 (C)
It would pay less than I make now in an office job.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 13 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,344,292

@previous (A)

Seems suspiciously sloth-spirited. You aren't taking overtime?

Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,344,298

I'd like to see more power for the workers. It'd be nice to pick up an extra shift occasionally without getting a second job. Outlaw salary pay and overtime for starters - it's trapping us more than helping.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 11 months ago, 2 weeks later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,348,601

i have my doubts that britan was ever great, honestly. i mean youd think if britain was indeed "great" they wouldve had enough pride in their country to prevent their country from devolving such an embarrassing shithole.
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