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Topic: 1870-1913 USA didn't have an income tax.

Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #123,235

Just tariffs.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 35 minutes later[^] [v] #1,343,287

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,289

The United States still doesn’t have an income tax if you don’t earn your income through income.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,296

@previous (C)
You don't know what you're talking about.

boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 21 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,298

USA was started in part over anger over tariffs. Something about "no taxation without representation" was the rallying cry.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,301

@previous (boof)
The proceeds of those tariffs went to another country.

boof replied with this 1 year ago, 34 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,306

@previous (A)
so? it's a two-way street isn't it. good for the goose

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 23 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,517

@previous (boof)
No, giving away the money takes away a lot of the positives.

boof replied with this 1 year ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,522

exactly

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,531

@previous (boof)
Good thing that these tariffs go to the US government, and not the UK.

Trump just used the threat of them to force Columbia to accept their migrants back.

boof replied with this 1 year ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,532

oh? maybe he should put the tariffs on anyway if they are so fucking great

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,536

@previous (boof)
If you threaten tariffs to close a deal, and then put them on anyway when you get what you want, no one will believe you in the future. Pulling back when they comply is important.

boof replied with this 1 year ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,580

@previous (A)
well that detracts from your praise of tariffs for their own sake a bit

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,591

@previous (boof)
How so?

boof replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,592

@previous (A)
well I mean using tariffs for their putative purpose, their inherent value as tariffs

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,596

@previous (boof)
There is still an option for low tariffs on compliant countries, and high tariffs on non-compliant ones.

Columbia doesn't need a 50% tariff if they take back their invaders, but that doesn't necessarily mean they will have 0%.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,598

@previous (A)
This. Not only are tariffs incredibly versatile, they actually work and are more humane than sanctions when used punitively

boof replied with this 1 year ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,615

@1,343,596 (A)
so what's the hold up

fish or cut bait

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,343,686

@previous (boof)
Columbia folded, so he's moving on to the next country. There's always negotiations going on in the background, and a reevaluation of priorities. It could be a few days between these diplomatic plays, some countries will avoid the spotlight for a few months while the important issues are settled.
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