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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,248
TikTok could have sold to any non-chinese company and stayed legal. They didn't ban speech, they banned a foreign tech companies from operating here- a practice that is much more common for China to do to the US than the reverse.
Maybe China could work out a deal where they unblock a US video streaming company in exchange for unbanning TikTok.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,275
TikTok completely shut down internationally too. Though Trump is probably going to overturn the ban just so he could have wthe bragging rights of doing so. Despite the fact that he initiated this shit.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,326
At least now the Chinese government can tell their citizens America does the same thing they do so why are you complaining when the freedom country has the same policy as we do.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 29 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,348
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It’s weird TikTok went offline before they were required to go offline then said Trump put them back online thanks to "president Trump" the day before Trump is inaugurated as president (and has no political authority until then). The political games going on with the rich in this country are dumb af.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,356
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It will ironically probably go offline again once he becomes president.
There will be a bunch of tech billionaires at Trump’s inauguration. They all donated a million dollars each to be there, and two of them, Tim Cook and Sam Altman are openly gay. They’re going to spin it as "gay billionaires support Trump" but it’s so obvious they’re just competing for influence. There’s no way that billionaires who have long histories of donating millions of dollars to the democrats who are openly gay are there because they actually genuinely had a sudden change of heart.
Trump is only promising to grant TikTok a 90 day extension to be bought by an American company. But he will be in office for four years, and TikTok is owned by ByteDance which is in part owned by the Chinese government (like all Chinese corporations are since China is a state capitalist country). The Chinese government will absolutely not sell TikTok to an American company. It’s an authoritarian one party state, and they are fundamentally ideologically opposed to the United States and especially to the Republican Party.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,370
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If TikTok isn’t owned by China, then it’s useless to China. I suspect that if China doesn’t get to control TikTok in America, then they would rather TikTok in America not exist at all in order to save face. There might be technicalities about who makes board decisions at TikTok about what to do with the company, but at the end of the day, there is no rule of law in China, and if China doesn’t want TikTok to be sold to an American company, then it doesn’t really matter what their own rules about who owns what percentage are, it’s just not going to happen.
Anonymous J double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,371
Congress might change their mind though. But the Supreme Court seems to support the ban. So if Trump is against it, that’s only one out of the three branches of government.
> Republicans: too much Chinese influence! Ban TikTok! > > Americans: flock to 小红书, a literal Communist app right out of Communist China.
Honestly, I don’t think communism is actually a bad ideology. The first communist country was Russia, so Russia had a large outward influence on the direction most other communist nations that came after had. The first Marxist leader of Russia, Vladimir Lenin was an authoritarian. However, Marxism is not an inherently authoritarian ideology. There are several democratic countries that have socialist or communist leaning minority parties that aren’t dictatorships. (Although, it’s more common in parliamentary systems like in European countries than it is in winner take all presidential systems like America.) Also, the Chinese communist party, isn’t really communist. The modern economy of China is more accurately described as state capitalist. In China, capital exists, corporations exist, workers do not own the means of production, there are no organized labor unions, and the government has partial ownership over all Chinese companies and can affect the outcome of board decisions. A communist country would be a country where the workers own the means of production, there is organized labor, and currency doesn’t exist. So China technically isn’t communist.
Anonymous L triple-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,384
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Really, the United States has economic policies that are more socialist leaning than China, like social security for example. But the rich in America have convinced everyone that "socialism is evil" and "capitalism" and "democracy" are synonyms, even though oligarchies (like modern Russia) are not democratic states. The American constitution actually never states that the United States is a capitalist country.
Anonymous L quadruple-posted this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,385
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Although one advantage of state capitalism is the government controls the rich people instead of the other way around. There’s no question about who has authority in China, when in America it’s less clear sometimes. Although, that doesn’t mean the authority comes from a good source that’s in line with the people of China, which is why democracy is important.
boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 28 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,398
did Marx outline how a good government would be set up? or was he merely describing how governments evolve and gave a description of how an evolved communist state would be naturally organized? because there's a difference between describing an ideology and describing what actually can exist
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,401
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To be fair I probably said things that were less sane than anything Marx ever wrote when I was a teenager dicking around on the internet. But if someone actually took some post I made on a random website years ago seriously saying we should kill the poorer half of the population in order to manifest "on Earth as in Heaven" so that everyone can experience paradise, either on Earth or in Heaven, it wouldn't be my fault.
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,341,411
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