All I’m gonna say is, white people wanna call blacks gorillas and say blacks aren’t smart, but then white people will go get themselves a pet gorilla that lives in their house and get their face torn off like there’s no irony in that.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,054
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Who cares? I’d rather shoot a gorilla than let a gorilla kill a human toddler. Obviously, there are other parties at fault like the parents and whoever designed the zoo enclosure who could be liable. But in the moment, I’d shoot the gorilla.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,058
@previous (D)
Really a human shooting an animal threatening a human is a lot nicer than what an animal would do to a human in order to protect another animal.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,062
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It’s also the zoo’s fault. If you go to any zoo anywhere in the world you’ll see loads of kids. It shouldn’t be possible for a toddler to wander in. If you have thousands of families visiting for years and years and years, eventually you’ll have some incompetent parents. It shouldn’t be a "how could this happen" sort of thing when inevitably some random person screws up. You can never rely on everyone to do their part. It’s the tragedy of the commons. People who moralize too much about individuals when there are so many individuals it’s bound to happen eventually miss the point too often.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,063
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It’s a tangent, but gun violence for example. Whenever somebody shoots up a school people are like, "How could this individual person be so evil!" But it’s like, we have a country of 330 million people, it’s a statistical impossibility that when about 1% of the population is psychopathic on average, that you won’t have millions of psychopaths in America. So the real problem isn’t that evil people exist or that incompetent people exist, the real problem is designing a system that doesn’t account for that. Whether it’s a political/legal system or a physical system. For example, opening doors on airplanes. You’d think most people wouldn’t be dumb enough to think you can open a door on an airplane to get fresh air. Turns out, 8 billion humans somebody’s dumb enough. Somebody in Korea tried that on an actual flight.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 19 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,068
@1,341,065 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Toddlers aren’t exactly Olympic climbers. If it’s possible for a little kid to climb over a fence, maybe the design of the fence was bad.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 58 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,069
@1,341,067 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I’ve been black my whole life and I’ve never heard of a black person being afraid of a cat… unless you’re talking about the type of cat in that video I linked to. That would make sense to be afraid of.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 1 year ago, 52 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,070
Ancient Egyptians literally would mummify their pet cats when their pets died the same way they would mummify humans because they valued them so highly.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,075
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It’s the same continent. White people think that North Africa and Sub Saharan Africa were isolated from each other when this isn’t the case. Sudan actually has twice as many pyramids as Egypt does. You can google what Sudanese people look like. In northern Nigeria before the British colonized it, they would write Yoruba using Arabic script. It’s the same continent. Just because they different skin colors doesn’t mean there are no cultural similarities.
The new barrier they built to replace the old fence is only 42 inches high, which is 3.5 feet. I’m almost 6 feet tall, so if the new barrier is better than the old one and the old barrier is just a little more than half my height, an adult could still easily fall over the new barrier. I’ve been to zoos before where they had barriers that were twice as tall as the people were.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC triple-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 50 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,082
A quote from Wikipedia about the enclosure
Witnesses said they heard the child say he wanted to go into the gorilla enclosure.[11] The boy then climbed a 3-foot-tall (0.9 m) fence, crawled through 4 feet (1.2 m) of bushes, and then fell 15 feet (4.6 m) into a moat of shallow water. Zoo officials immediately signaled for the three gorillas in the habitat to return inside, and two females did so. However, the third gorilla, the inquisitive 440-pound (200 kg) male silverback, Harambe, climbed down into the moat to investigate the child splashing in the water.[10]
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 44 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,083
@1,341,078 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I just said the new barrier is half my height so it would be possible for me to fall over it, and your argument is that the old barrier was 6 inches shorter therefore it was tall enough when it obviously wasn’t because a toddler climbed over it. It’s not that expensive to just build a proper barrier.
You can very easily just google what most zoo barriers look like to see they’re generally taller than 3 feet and oftentimes they’re made out of glass so they’re impossible to climb because there’s nothing to climb onto.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,084
@1,341,080 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
There are little to no cultural similarities between North Africa and Sub Saharan Africa? Most black Americans came from Nigeria. There are about 80 million Muslims in Nigeria and 90 million in Egypt.
Even if an adult fell over that barrier, they wouldn't have actually landed in the enclosure. There was an entire separate set of steps needed to get there
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 41 seconds later, 57 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,341,087
@1,341,085 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I never said that it wasn’t partially the mother’s fault. What I’m saying is, it’s stupid to design a zoo with the expectation that incompetent adults don’t exist.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,341,092
@1,341,089 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That’s a stupid argument. It’s not either you save everyone from everything or you don’t try to save anyone from anything. When there’s a problem you solve the fucking problem, that’s how it works. When they were building the Golden Gate Bridge in San Fransisco, they didn’t say, "Oh well I guess workers just fall into the river because it’s their fault they could have just not have come to work drunk." They put a net there so that people didn’t die.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,341,094
@previous (A)
Moralizing and saying, "Oh well an accident happened because people were incompetent." And then doing nothing, and expecting everyone in the world to change and become competent without putting any systems or changes in place to prevent the same thing from happening again is totally useless. It doesn’t solve any problem.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,341,098
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That’s so obviously a stupid argument. Do you actually believe what you’re saying? Do you actually believe it’s impossible to create a structure that makes it impossible for a toddler to enter into an enclosed area? How do you think we built prisons?