Topic: Who does Elon Musk appeal to?
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #122,721
I find it confusing anybody likes Elon Musk. Because in order to like Musk it seems like you have to be an alt right pro immigration environmentalist traditional conservative atheist who likes space that’s old enough to afford a car but young enough to think 69 and 420 jokes are still funny. Who is that demographic? Like 5 people? How do some many people like him on the internet? Are they real people? I’ve never met one of them in real life.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,338,868
Also being alt right but pro immigration and supporting Trump, a guy who doesn’t believe climate change is real, while you’re trying to sell electric cars to "save the environment" and you openly say the universe is a computer simulation while trying to buddy up with Christian conservatives and convince them you’re a "cultural Christian" and that’s totally the same thing. I mean, I’m not even that religious, I’m in computer science, and I think "the universe is a simulation" is the nerd equivalent of being a solipsist. It might be fun to think about but if you unironically believe in it, you might need some medication.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,869
Or the fact he was working illegally in the United States at one point without a work visa but he supported an anti immigration presidential candidate and then imposed his own opinion on that president that work visas are good because he’s from South Africa. And I mean, Musk isn’t exactly stupid. He might not be likable, but he’s definitely not clueless. He must know what he’s doing. Or then how he pretends to be a "cultural Christian" but he wants everybody to call him the "savior of humanity" for being a genius who saved us by colonizing Mars… even though he hasn’t even sent a speck of dust to Mars yet. Sure he’s launched rockets, exactly zero with Mars as a final destination. But if you’re a Christian, Jesus is supposed to be your only savior and you’re supposed to put no Gods before him. So how is it Christian to stroke a guys ego who asks to be called a savior for something that hasn’t even happened yet? And the chances of an asteroid causing humanity to go extinct are tiny. You might think "oh well the dinosaurs went extinct 65 million years ago because of an asteroid so there must be an asteroid every 65 million years." Except actually no, in 4.5 billion years of Earth’s history, there have been 5 mass extinctions, 4 were caused by volcanism, and one was caused by an asteroid. So the chances of an asteroid causing a mass extinction are at most one in 4.5 billion per year, which is 0.00000002% odds that humanity will die from an asteroid in 2025. What about the next hundred years? The odds of something happening at least once is 1-(1-p)^n, so the odds of that happening are 0.000002%. So he’s almost certainly NOT going to be the savior of humanity.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,871
If you do the math, the odds in the next 100,000 years of a mass extinction causing asteroid impact are 0.002%. It’s literally just not going to happen.
Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,873
Apparently like 2% of Americans die in childhood. So your chances of dying before you turned 18 were literally a thousand times higher than the odds of the world ending from an asteroid in the next 100,000 years. But yet people want to call Elon Musk a savior and not call their own parents a savior for successfully preventing something that’s a thousand times more likely.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,874
…about 19% odds in the next BILLION years. Like I mean come on, it’s freaking absurd.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,876
I mean, you can like someone for parts of their views, you don't have to agree with their views on everything. It's like how Evangelical Christians didn't have any trouble loving Trump- he blatantly doesn't conform to or really care for their lifestyle, but he was otherwise quite aligned with things they wanted. They could easily overlook his crass behaviour and adultery. I think there was a convenient Bible verse about God acting through ungodly people that they used for this, but I digress.
Elon is popular because, these days, he makes big and impassioned attacks on "woke" culture and left-wing politicians across the world. You don't have to be be hugely into green energy or his sense of humour or his tech interests to like him for that.
Humans, usually, aren't highly-logical creatures who carefully evaluate someone's views on everything before deciding if they like them or not. And, more importantly, humans are also very good at explaining away or ignoring inconvenient facts. Like, the Qur'an explicitly bans alcohol, yet Turkey manages to have an alcohol industry and their national hero was a heavy drinker.
Granted, this can have limits. Some conservatives don't like Elon's views on those visas because that was just too much of a red line for them.
Elon is popular because, these days, he makes big and impassioned attacks on "woke" culture and left-wing politicians across the world. You don't have to be be hugely into green energy or his sense of humour or his tech interests to like him for that.
Humans, usually, aren't highly-logical creatures who carefully evaluate someone's views on everything before deciding if they like them or not. And, more importantly, humans are also very good at explaining away or ignoring inconvenient facts. Like, the Qur'an explicitly bans alcohol, yet Turkey manages to have an alcohol industry and their national hero was a heavy drinker.
Granted, this can have limits. Some conservatives don't like Elon's views on those visas because that was just too much of a red line for them.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,878
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
I feel like it’s hard for me to like Elon Musk because he’s so attention seeking. He literally bought a social media company just so he could boost his Tweets so more people could see the memes he posts. He seems kind of desperate for attention. Like when there were those boys trapped in that cave in Thailand and Elon Musk found a way to make it about himself by making "submarines" out of plastic tubes and then calling the diver who actually saved the kids lives a "pedo" for not using his untested invention and using established diving equipment instead. He literally got booed off stage twice in real life. I have a feeling most of his popularity on the internet doesn’t exist in real life the way he’s deluded himself to think it does. And conservatives who supposedly align with him ideologically in theory turning against him seems to be evidence of that.
I feel like it’s hard for me to like Elon Musk because he’s so attention seeking. He literally bought a social media company just so he could boost his Tweets so more people could see the memes he posts. He seems kind of desperate for attention. Like when there were those boys trapped in that cave in Thailand and Elon Musk found a way to make it about himself by making "submarines" out of plastic tubes and then calling the diver who actually saved the kids lives a "pedo" for not using his untested invention and using established diving equipment instead. He literally got booed off stage twice in real life. I have a feeling most of his popularity on the internet doesn’t exist in real life the way he’s deluded himself to think it does. And conservatives who supposedly align with him ideologically in theory turning against him seems to be evidence of that.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 56 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,890
Also: just pointing out that even though on X / Twitter (I never used it even before he bought it so I don’t really know I’m just assuming) it might seem like more people like Elon Musk than dislike him, that might not be because people changed their minds. Elon Musk bought Twitter in 2022. Back in 2022, Twitter had 368.4 million users, but in the past two years, by 2024, X had lost 32.7 million users with a total of 335.7 million users in 2024. Before Elon Musk bought Twitter, they had been growing in users for several years in a row. Meanwhile, in the past two years, Threads and Bluesky gained millions of users. But millions of people didn’t suddenly get internet access or come into existence in the past two years out of nowhere. So it’s more likely that Twitter / X might appear more "Elon Musk friendly" not because he actually convinced anyone, but because people who don’t like him have just decided to leave. (To elaborate on my point about manufacture popularity.)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/303681/twitter-users-worldwide/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/303681/twitter-users-worldwide/
Elon's brain-care specialist joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,907
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,913
@1,338,878 (D)
Yes. I also personally dislike him for many reasons. But my point there was about how OP's premise of him being difficult to like wasn't really how people work, and that people can easily ignore of accept things would be seem difficult for them to do so.
@1,338,890 (E)
You are probably correct that Twitter became more of an Elon fanclub because he drove away a lot of people who disliked him and how he ran it, but I also don't buy that he isn't legitimately quite popular with certain groups of people. I come across fans of his all over the internet, not just Twitter.
I'm pretty sure that, if I was socially conservative, I would really love all this stuff about him moving his companies because of a pro-trans law, calling video games woke, saying that society has become decadent, etc. Culture war stuff like that is an easy ticket to popularity these days.
Yes. I also personally dislike him for many reasons. But my point there was about how OP's premise of him being difficult to like wasn't really how people work, and that people can easily ignore of accept things would be seem difficult for them to do so.
@1,338,890 (E)
You are probably correct that Twitter became more of an Elon fanclub because he drove away a lot of people who disliked him and how he ran it, but I also don't buy that he isn't legitimately quite popular with certain groups of people. I come across fans of his all over the internet, not just Twitter.
I'm pretty sure that, if I was socially conservative, I would really love all this stuff about him moving his companies because of a pro-trans law, calling video games woke, saying that society has become decadent, etc. Culture war stuff like that is an easy ticket to popularity these days.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 year ago, 30 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,919
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
Tbh I don’t think social conservatism is bad. But it’s possible to be socially conservative without having an attitude of hating minorities, which seems to be what’s getting popular. There are people I know IRL who are definitely socially conservative when it comes to things like beliefs about marriage / religion / family values, but who don’t identify as "politically conservative" because they’re minorities.
Tbh I don’t think social conservatism is bad. But it’s possible to be socially conservative without having an attitude of hating minorities, which seems to be what’s getting popular. There are people I know IRL who are definitely socially conservative when it comes to things like beliefs about marriage / religion / family values, but who don’t identify as "politically conservative" because they’re minorities.
Anonymous E double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,920
Like in Germany for example, far right people are angry about immigration because they don’t like Muslims, except the reason why there are so many Muslims in Germany is because Angela Merkel let them in, except she is a Christian Democrat which is actually a conservative anti socialist leaning party not a left wing party. So there might be countries other than the United States where there would be "right wing" parties a lot of "left wing" Americans would probably agree with. But the two party system is dumb because it encourages absolutist binary thinking about things.
boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 7 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,056
fags
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,058
Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,073
@1,338,907 (Elon's brain-care specialist)
Nice hitchhikers reference and from the tv series. Did you know why each of the hitchhikers series was slightly different? (Book, bbc drama and tv series) it was because everytime they used the improbability drive it changed the story.
Nice hitchhikers reference and from the tv series. Did you know why each of the hitchhikers series was slightly different? (Book, bbc drama and tv series) it was because everytime they used the improbability drive it changed the story.
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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 18 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,364
Who is he?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,396
He faked being a Path of Exile 2 gamer which is worse than anything else he has done.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,399
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> He faked being a Path of Exile 2 gamer which is worse than anything else he has done.
It’s strange because you wouldn’t think he’d have to fake being a nerd. Like we all believe him. He doesn’t need to convince us.
> He faked being a Path of Exile 2 gamer which is worse than anything else he has done.
It’s strange because you wouldn’t think he’d have to fake being a nerd. Like we all believe him. He doesn’t need to convince us.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,402
I'd call him more of a dork on his best days, and shithead on his worst
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,411
@1,339,399 (L)
Yes playing video games is extremely easy. Even POE 2, which is one of the harder ARPGs, isn't THAT hard if you're not playing a melee class (I have a level 75ish Deadeye Ranger). If he's a turbogenius he should be able to with ~30 hours of investment get a decently geared character, especially if you're using in-game trade (I don't because I find it is too much of a shortcut). But instead he just pays some chinese dudes to grind his character so he can have a uber-strong hardcore character that he doesn't understand the mechanics of to...show off I guess?
It's so incredibly lame.
Yes playing video games is extremely easy. Even POE 2, which is one of the harder ARPGs, isn't THAT hard if you're not playing a melee class (I have a level 75ish Deadeye Ranger). If he's a turbogenius he should be able to with ~30 hours of investment get a decently geared character, especially if you're using in-game trade (I don't because I find it is too much of a shortcut). But instead he just pays some chinese dudes to grind his character so he can have a uber-strong hardcore character that he doesn't understand the mechanics of to...show off I guess?
It's so incredibly lame.
Green !!bO/s3MBcD joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,428
Me.
Green !!bO/s3MBcD double-posted this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,429
Alright, listen... *listen*, okay? Here's the thing about Elon Musk, alright? The guy is—he’s like... *he’s not human*, okay? He’s this... *mad scientist wizard entrepreneur* rolled into one, and it’s like... how do you even? He’s revolutionizing—*revo-lu-tion-i-zing*, man—everything. EV-ERY-THING.
First, there’s Tesla. Like, who else had the guts to say, “Hey, let’s make electric cars sexy”? Not just practical, not just tree-huggy, but *fast* and *cool* and "I can beat your V8 off the line" kind of cool. That's *vision*, man.
And SpaceX? Don’t even get me started. This guy’s like, “NASA’s too slow, let me just *build my own rocket company* real quick, no big deal.” And now we’ve got reusable rockets, *REUSABLE*, because this guy looked at billions of dollars exploding on reentry and said, “Nah, that’s dumb. Let’s land them.” Who does that? Elon does that.
Oh, oh! And Starlink! This man’s giving the *whole planet* Wi-Fi, like Oprah handing out cars. "You get internet! You get internet!" He’s connecting villages, man. VILLAGES. The guy’s out here like some *tech Robin Hood*.
And say what you want about Twitter—uh, X now—but the guy *thinks big*. Love him or hate him, he’s not afraid to shake things up, to make people *think*, even if it’s messy.
So, yeah, Elon Musk is... He’s *chaos*, but he’s the kind of chaos that pushes humanity forward, you know? Like... *the guy’s playing 4D chess and we’re all here trying to figure out checkers*. Cheers to that genius maniac!
First, there’s Tesla. Like, who else had the guts to say, “Hey, let’s make electric cars sexy”? Not just practical, not just tree-huggy, but *fast* and *cool* and "I can beat your V8 off the line" kind of cool. That's *vision*, man.
And SpaceX? Don’t even get me started. This guy’s like, “NASA’s too slow, let me just *build my own rocket company* real quick, no big deal.” And now we’ve got reusable rockets, *REUSABLE*, because this guy looked at billions of dollars exploding on reentry and said, “Nah, that’s dumb. Let’s land them.” Who does that? Elon does that.
Oh, oh! And Starlink! This man’s giving the *whole planet* Wi-Fi, like Oprah handing out cars. "You get internet! You get internet!" He’s connecting villages, man. VILLAGES. The guy’s out here like some *tech Robin Hood*.
And say what you want about Twitter—uh, X now—but the guy *thinks big*. Love him or hate him, he’s not afraid to shake things up, to make people *think*, even if it’s messy.
So, yeah, Elon Musk is... He’s *chaos*, but he’s the kind of chaos that pushes humanity forward, you know? Like... *the guy’s playing 4D chess and we’re all here trying to figure out checkers*. Cheers to that genius maniac!
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,443
@1,339,396 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> He faked being a Path of Exile 2 gamer which is worse than anything else he has done.
This is consistent with his history of being a pathological liar. He almost certainly faked being a top Diablo player too.
The whole point of doing this was to plug Starlink. He doesn't really give a shit about computer games or what a bunch of nerds think about him. He's already impressed the right people (who don't give a shit either) and got his investors. That's all he cares about.
> He faked being a Path of Exile 2 gamer which is worse than anything else he has done.
This is consistent with his history of being a pathological liar. He almost certainly faked being a top Diablo player too.
The whole point of doing this was to plug Starlink. He doesn't really give a shit about computer games or what a bunch of nerds think about him. He's already impressed the right people (who don't give a shit either) and got his investors. That's all he cares about.