Topic: If religion is fake
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #122,673
Atheists sometimes say that religion is fake and made up and humans invented God. Let’s just say hypothetically that’s true for second, think about the implications of that. That means somebody was so good at writing that they created a book that was so good, that for thousands of years, people have been willing to kill themselves in the name of that book. That doesn’t seem possible. I mean, think about 9/11, I’m not Muslim, I’m Christian, but think about that for a second. I’m Christian so I don’t believe in the Quran. But imagine how good of a writer somebody had to be to write a book that made somebody fly a plane into a building. That’s crazy. I don’t think I could write a book that good. Imagine just writing a post on the internet, maybe a post on MiniChan, imagine writing a MiniChan post that’s so good somebody reads it and they hijack and airplane and fly it into a skyscraper. You could never write a MiniChan post that good. If it is true that humans exist who are that good at writing, I’m gonna start questioning freedom of speech to be honest.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,338,464
Honestly, I don’t know if I should say this. I wanna be as good at writing as whoever wrote Mein Kampf, the Quran, and the Bible. I wanna be able to write something with that much power.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,465
Or Karl Marx. Anti communists say, "Karl Marx was evil he killed a hundred million people in a hundred years." Except, he actually didn’t, he died before the first communist country was established in Russia. All Karl Marx did was write a book. Could you write a book that kills a hundred million people? I don’t think so.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 1 year ago, 54 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,466
Tbh that’s the stupid thing about anti communists though. They say they’re for freedom and absolute free speech but unironically say stupid shit like a book actually killed a hundred million people. Like shut the fuck up you libertarian billionaire boot licking weirdo.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,468
Maybe writing a book that makes even one person commit murder would be a triumph?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,469
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Maybe writing a book that makes even one person commit murder would be a triumph?
Eh, you could probably convince any random psycho on the street selling drugs to commit an act of terrorism. It’s not impressive. Something that affects nations is impressive.
> Maybe writing a book that makes even one person commit murder would be a triumph?
Eh, you could probably convince any random psycho on the street selling drugs to commit an act of terrorism. It’s not impressive. Something that affects nations is impressive.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 36 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,470
@previous (A)
I dont think you could, nor could most people. Unless it's getting yourself killed
I dont think you could, nor could most people. Unless it's getting yourself killed
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,472
Maybe there’s something to works that affect nations though. Like Mein Kampf or the Communist Manifesto or the American constitution or the Bible. There has to be either a magical component (sometimes not always) or a divine purpose or mission. A mission for one world one race, or a global communist utopia or freedom or something. There has to be a divine moral purpose that’s greater than oneself that establishes a binary good vs evil. The Germans vs the world, or the workers vs the elite or the people vs authoritarianism.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 45 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,473
Like, there has to be either a myth of the creator or a myth of the nation.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,475
Summatron !06NY4sFIG. joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,477
I'm going to do a parody of this later on today. Or you can shush me.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,478
@previous (Summatron !06NY4sFIG.)
> I'm going to do a parody of this later on today. Or you can shush me.
Ur parodies suck
> I'm going to do a parody of this later on today. Or you can shush me.
Ur parodies suck
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,479
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,485
We're all waiting for some alternatives to communism and capitalism, but don't call it the third alternative.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,486
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Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,491
@previous (E)
I think you are confusing freedom, freedom ironically is not free.
I think you are confusing freedom, freedom ironically is not free.
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Anonymous E replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,338,492
@previous (D)
Freedom ain’t not free. Only your work can set you free. Arbeit macht frei. That’s my motto.
https://youtu.be/RF0p3liS6O8
Freedom ain’t not free. Only your work can set you free. Arbeit macht frei. That’s my motto.
https://youtu.be/RF0p3liS6O8
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 days later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,150
@OP> Atheists sometimes say that religion is fake and made up and humans invented God.
Do you worship Zeus or Thor or Kali?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 40 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,154
@previous (F)
That’s a stupid question. People who worshipped Zeus didn’t worship Jesus. It’s almost like they’re not the same religion.
That’s a stupid question. People who worshipped Zeus didn’t worship Jesus. It’s almost like they’re not the same religion.
Anonymous G double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,155
It’s like asking, "Well if you believe in American democracy, do you also believe in Marxism? Well then if not, why aren’t you an anarchist?" It doesn’t logically follow.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,181
You're a retard op
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,196
@1,338,465 (A)
Anti-school school shooters say "Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were evil, they killed 12 people" but they didn't, all they did was pull a trigger on a gun, it was bullets that killed 12 people.
Anti-school school shooters say "Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris were evil, they killed 12 people" but they didn't, all they did was pull a trigger on a gun, it was bullets that killed 12 people.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,222
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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,232
If religion is fake, why do all those super churches make so much money?
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,233
@previous (K)
Well communists would say that money is fake too. Communists are the only type of atheist I don’t find insufferable because they still think life has a purpose.
Well communists would say that money is fake too. Communists are the only type of atheist I don’t find insufferable because they still think life has a purpose.
Anonymous J double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,234
Like I swear, there are only two reasons to become a pro-capitalist atheist: either you’re an LGBTQ+ teen who’s offended by the world or you’re one of those social Darwinist Nazi types. I’d literally rather listen to a full blown holodomor-denying Marxist-Leninist Stalin/Mao/DPRK apologist than listen to either of those two groups.
Anonymous J triple-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,235
https://youtube.com/@yaboihakim
Like this guy for example. He’s probably an atheist, he’s a communist, he unironically has defended North Korea. I disagree with all of that. But I find it easier to listen to a guy who thinks the Nazis are bad than it is to listen to Sam Harris or whatever go off on "Muslims are evil." At least the pro North Korea people aren’t racist… against anyone except specific ethnic groups in Eastern Europe that Americans don’t know about. (I’m not a communist, I’m just saying the tankies are the least annoying atheists.)
Like this guy for example. He’s probably an atheist, he’s a communist, he unironically has defended North Korea. I disagree with all of that. But I find it easier to listen to a guy who thinks the Nazis are bad than it is to listen to Sam Harris or whatever go off on "Muslims are evil." At least the pro North Korea people aren’t racist… against anyone except specific ethnic groups in Eastern Europe that Americans don’t know about. (I’m not a communist, I’m just saying the tankies are the least annoying atheists.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 26 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,239
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,244
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
If you don’t believe in God, why would you believe in money? The value of money is purely subjective and speculative, that’s why exchange rates don’t stay constant over time. It’s all just based on vibes.
If you don’t believe in God, why would you believe in money? The value of money is purely subjective and speculative, that’s why exchange rates don’t stay constant over time. It’s all just based on vibes.
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,257
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 24 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,268
Religion was something that man invented in order to answer some questions that they couldn't explain due to a lack of knowledge. Its purpose was the same as science is today, only with science it uses more rigorous testing to arrive to a conclusion. This, however, does not dismiss the possibility of any creator, deity, or God. The fact that divinity is so well spread across the world and often times with the same general consciousness and the fact that our universe is so vastly complicated that not even our top scientists can figure it all out is sort of evident of something grander than our own being. It may not be the same God that Christianity preached, but there is something out there. What would be the point if there wasn't?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,271
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 year ago, 16 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,272
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,295
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,297
@previous (J)
It's backed by what people think its worth
I can also hold something of value in my hand
It's backed by what people think its worth
I can also hold something of value in my hand
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,309
@1,339,272 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Of course it is. If you believed in God, you'd follow his commands. And you're specifically commanded to reject the love of money.
Of course it is. If you believed in God, you'd follow his commands. And you're specifically commanded to reject the love of money.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,314
@previous (I)
> Of course it is. If you believed in God, you'd follow his commands. And you're specifically commanded to reject the love of money.
Gods commands? Man Woman are about 250,000 years of origin. The first written words by Man about God are only 5000 or so years old.
Bible re God is 99.9999999999999999% Fiction.
> Of course it is. If you believed in God, you'd follow his commands. And you're specifically commanded to reject the love of money.
Gods commands? Man Woman are about 250,000 years of origin. The first written words by Man about God are only 5000 or so years old.
Bible re God is 99.9999999999999999% Fiction.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,316
@1,339,309 (I)
Most people who are religious don't follow every law in their holy books. Pretending otherwise is absurd
Most people who are religious don't follow every law in their holy books. Pretending otherwise is absurd
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,317
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Politicians don’t follow every law they wrote themselves. Or even the majority of the laws they wrote.
Politicians don’t follow every law they wrote themselves. Or even the majority of the laws they wrote.
Anonymous N double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,318
@1,339,314 (M)
The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. When was the first person to write about that born?
The Earth is 4.5 billion years old. When was the first person to write about that born?
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,327
@1,339,316 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So, if I say I am vegetarian and every day eat hamburgers, I am a vegetarian?
So, if I say I am vegetarian and every day eat hamburgers, I am a vegetarian?
Anonymous N replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,328
Anonymous M replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,332
@1,339,318 (N)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_writing
Four independent inventions of writing are most commonly recognized—in Mesopotamia (c. 3400–3100 BC), Egypt (c. 3250 BC), China (before c. 1250 BC), and Mesoamerica (before c. 1 AD
Specifically, many theories were dependent on a literal account of the Book of Genesis, including the emphases it placed on Mesopotamia
The first humans evolved in Africa between 6 and 2 million years ago. Some of the earliest known human species include:
According to the recent African origin theory, modern humans evolved in Africa possibly from H. heidelbergensis, H. rhodesiensis or H. antecessor and migrated out of the continent some 50,000 to 100,000 years ago, gradually replacing local populations of H. erectus,
wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_writing
Four independent inventions of writing are most commonly recognized—in Mesopotamia (c. 3400–3100 BC), Egypt (c. 3250 BC), China (before c. 1250 BC), and Mesoamerica (before c. 1 AD
Specifically, many theories were dependent on a literal account of the Book of Genesis, including the emphases it placed on Mesopotamia
The first humans evolved in Africa between 6 and 2 million years ago. Some of the earliest known human species include:
According to the recent African origin theory, modern humans evolved in Africa possibly from H. heidelbergensis, H. rhodesiensis or H. antecessor and migrated out of the continent some 50,000 to 100,000 years ago, gradually replacing local populations of H. erectus,
wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,333
@1,339,233 (J)
Money and religion are both man made, do you mean communists would say money shouldn't exist?
Money and religion are both man made, do you mean communists would say money shouldn't exist?
Anonymous N replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,337
@1,339,332 (M)
You’re saying that God can’t exist if humans existed before humans started writing about God while you’re also making claims about things that happened before humans started writing.
You’re saying that God can’t exist if humans existed before humans started writing about God while you’re also making claims about things that happened before humans started writing.
Anonymous M replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,347
@previous (N)
Just pointing out how it was eons after Humans existed before they could make up a written language.
No doubt their spoken language had some interesting Earth Origin stories. Handed down to some point where they were written down.
Dem Jews of course have stories about Moses and Stone Tablets Plus Adam and Eve and Not Adam and Steve.
Just pointing out how it was eons after Humans existed before they could make up a written language.
No doubt their spoken language had some interesting Earth Origin stories. Handed down to some point where they were written down.
Dem Jews of course have stories about Moses and Stone Tablets Plus Adam and Eve and Not Adam and Steve.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 40 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,348
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@1,339,327 (I)
There are forms of vegetarians that eat fish and eggs and still consider themselves to be so
If one has to follow every law in the Bible to be a real Christian, real Christians dont exist
There are forms of vegetarians that eat fish and eggs and still consider themselves to be so
If one has to follow every law in the Bible to be a real Christian, real Christians dont exist
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,353
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Typical "um ackshually 🤓👆" kook answer, but moving on. It's a fundamental tenet in the Christian religion - you cannot love both God and money. One eliminates the other.
Typical "um ackshually 🤓👆" kook answer, but moving on. It's a fundamental tenet in the Christian religion - you cannot love both God and money. One eliminates the other.
Anonymous M replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,354
@1,339,348 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)There are millions upon millions of people that have other Gods and Idols and rules and laws.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,355
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Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,339,400
@1,339,355 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Christians are commanded to live simple, humble lives and "build treasure in heaven" through acts of charity and goodwill with their "treasure on earth".
Christians are commanded to live simple, humble lives and "build treasure in heaven" through acts of charity and goodwill with their "treasure on earth".