Topic: Why does anyone go to work when they could just be homeless?
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #122,505
Prepping for work, commuting, spending 8 hours there, commuting back... It takes so much time and energy. You're left with a few hours outside of that to really do anything.For $100 you can buy a decent tent, another $100 for winter jacket, and for $200 you can get a used phone to scroll on all day.
You would need some odd jobs to get food money, but buying and maintaining those supplies is nothing. There's free wifi, public outlets, and endless free entertainment or study material.
Mooch off food banks, steal some toiletries, and you don't need to spend much time on those temporary cash gigs either.
The first week would be uncomfortable, but you could move your tent around to find a comfortable private spot. You would have all the time in the world to focus on other problems that pop up.
What am I missing? Why doesn't every drop out of capitalist society and live on easy street?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 56 minutes later[^] [v] #1,337,126
People usually want more out of life than just surviving.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,127
@previous (B)
Then why work all the time just to pay rent with nothing left over? That's life for half the population.
Then why work all the time just to pay rent with nothing left over? That's life for half the population.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,128
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,130
That is because they don't use their heads when it comes to working. If a person is out working 40-50 hours a week and can only make enough to survive on then it isn't the the world around them at fault, it's theirs. Some people aren't to bright and work themselves to death trying to make ends meet.When the problem is their way of thinking and approach to working and making money.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,147
My two sticking points were to be comfortable (70 degree environment and dry) and have food in my stomach. I'll take those above all else, even if landlords, credit card companies, and employers are abusing me a bit.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,163
@previous (E)
landlords aren't abusing you. renting your place of residence has many advantages when compared to owning real estate
landlords aren't abusing you. renting your place of residence has many advantages when compared to owning real estate
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,168
@previous (F)
Because the landlords have their hands on the real estate. They aren't doing anything evil in general, just charging people half their earnings for shelter and possibly making babies unaffordable to have.
Because the landlords have their hands on the real estate. They aren't doing anything evil in general, just charging people half their earnings for shelter and possibly making babies unaffordable to have.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 31 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,169
Homeless people are subject to violence from the populace and police Harrasment
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,170
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,171
As the resident person who's been homeless and now isn't, it's not as easy as it looks from the outside. Would you like to pack up and move all your gear every day, or every few days? There's nowhere "private" in a city, unless you mean someone's private property, and folks aren't so willing to share their plot of land at will.
Sure I work 40+ hours a week, but I don't have to worry about my shit being rummaged through, tossed, or just ruined from being outside. Sure I am exhausted, but it's not from stressing about shelter or food.
But also, there is a difference between being homeless, and being jobless. The amount of working unhoused persons has risen in the last few years, made worse with natural disasters and housing prices not going down.
Sure I work 40+ hours a week, but I don't have to worry about my shit being rummaged through, tossed, or just ruined from being outside. Sure I am exhausted, but it's not from stressing about shelter or food.
But also, there is a difference between being homeless, and being jobless. The amount of working unhoused persons has risen in the last few years, made worse with natural disasters and housing prices not going down.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,172
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,173
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
The majority of homeless people are invisible, which means they rotate between various friends and family's houses, sleeping on the couch or floor, occasionally guest room.
The majority of homeless people are invisible, which means they rotate between various friends and family's houses, sleeping on the couch or floor, occasionally guest room.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,176
@previous (I)
And when those people are women they are at risk for sexual assault. Same as undocumented immigrants
And when those people are women they are at risk for sexual assault. Same as undocumented immigrants
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,177
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That's beyond the range of information I currently have access to. Please try again later.
That's beyond the range of information I currently have access to. Please try again later.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,181
Memories of probably the ONLY Homeless person WE ALL KNOW.
bert.
bert.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,203
@1,337,171 (J)
> But also, there is a difference between being homeless, and being jobless.
Who confused the two?
You can't quit your job and keep your place, you'll be evicted. The appeal of going homeless on your own is that you don't need to work to pay rent, never said these two things were the same thing.
> The amount of working unhoused persons has risen in the last few years, made worse with natural disasters and housing prices not going down.
homeless*
> But also, there is a difference between being homeless, and being jobless.
Who confused the two?
You can't quit your job and keep your place, you'll be evicted. The appeal of going homeless on your own is that you don't need to work to pay rent, never said these two things were the same thing.
> The amount of working unhoused persons has risen in the last few years, made worse with natural disasters and housing prices not going down.
homeless*
Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 52 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,204
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,205
@previous (C)
The euphemism treadmill isn't helping anyone, it's just a way for people to feel like they did something without any effort.
The euphemism treadmill isn't helping anyone, it's just a way for people to feel like they did something without any effort.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,221
I'm hobophobic (scared of bums)
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,232
Homeless is not fun, man.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,241
Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,243
@OP
be the change you want to see, go camping on the sidewalk and report back. i doubt you'll like it
be the change you want to see, go camping on the sidewalk and report back. i doubt you'll like it
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,247
@1,337,241 (F)
It's also a lay term that we all know what it means, you enormous, cum guzzling faggot.
It's also a lay term that we all know what it means, you enormous, cum guzzling faggot.
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Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,249
This topic has been explored in films such as Into the Wild. Plus a film about 7 years ago, woman buys an old shack in the middle of nowhere. Learns to grow food and hunt.
There was a film about people who live in vans and have a yearly get together about 2020.
There was a film about people who live in vans and have a yearly get together about 2020.
Anonymous N double-posted this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,250
I'm staying at a free camping ground about 14 km from a town with a supermarket. I'm allowed to stay here a maximum of 28 days a year. I'm sure you could find similar locations around my country.
Have a cheap car, buy a tent and you could have a relaxing lifestyle moving from 28 day location to 28 day location. Live on welfare if you can get it, or work part-time jobs if you can get them. You'd be looking at maybe 5 hours of work per week needed to survive.
Have a cheap car, buy a tent and you could have a relaxing lifestyle moving from 28 day location to 28 day location. Live on welfare if you can get it, or work part-time jobs if you can get them. You'd be looking at maybe 5 hours of work per week needed to survive.
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Anonymous N triple-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,252
@1,337,169 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Homeless people are subject to violence from the populace and police Harrasment
I have lived in my car 1500 nights in the last 7 years. 3 interactions with police. None were a problem. Although I am living in a country where police don't carry guns.
I first started doing this while I was at university. It was either do that, or not go to university. After university I have done about 500 nights on and off.
> Homeless people are subject to violence from the populace and police Harrasment
I have lived in my car 1500 nights in the last 7 years. 3 interactions with police. None were a problem. Although I am living in a country where police don't carry guns.
I first started doing this while I was at university. It was either do that, or not go to university. After university I have done about 500 nights on and off.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,253
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,269
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,487
@1,337,203 (A)
You did, when you conflated the reasoning behind being homeless with not wanting to deal with working a job.
You did, when you conflated the reasoning behind being homeless with not wanting to deal with working a job.
Cato joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,523
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,527
@1,337,487 (J)
The two are linked, but not the same thing. If you want to stop working, you need to be ready to give up the rental. If you want housing, you'll need to work.
The two are linked, but not the same thing. If you want to stop working, you need to be ready to give up the rental. If you want housing, you'll need to work.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,540
@previous (A)
"Why does anyone go to work when they could just be homeless"
And then you describe buying things with money, and going to live outside, possibly doing odd jobs, but mainly living outside, and focusing on other problems.
I am not the one who started a topic without thinking through what the words I typed actually meant.
"Why does anyone go to work when they could just be homeless"
And then you describe buying things with money, and going to live outside, possibly doing odd jobs, but mainly living outside, and focusing on other problems.
I am not the one who started a topic without thinking through what the words I typed actually meant.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,552
@previous (J)
The choice is between those two things, like the question implies, that doesn't mean those two things are the same thing. What point are you trying to make?
The choice is between those two things, like the question implies, that doesn't mean those two things are the same thing. What point are you trying to make?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 11 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,618
The only actual reason men choose to not be homeless is you can't get classy women if you're broke.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,624
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,626
I have wondered why more people don't just find a secret spot and build a little house from wattle and daub, like in those primitive YouTube videos. The real ones not the faggot Indonesian ones.
Anon replied with this 1 year ago, 27 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,337,633
@previous (I)
Where do they get food and toilet paper from?
Also secret spot means sex with only self.
Where do they get food and toilet paper from?
Also secret spot means sex with only self.