boof replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,334,345
the ones that are in the billionaire-friendly media know exactly what they are doing, spreading bullshit outrage over anything and everything to the general public to keep us too busy to think about murdering CEOs
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,334,359
Here is a list of woke elements. Made as simple and specific as possible to eliminate all pretense of the term being vague or invalid:
-Race swaps. All of them, every time. No exceptions
-Unidirectional diversity: non white places, real or fictional, can be depicted as all one race. White places, real or fictional, must be depicted as having the ethnic diversity of NYC or LA. Example: Wakanda is full of black Africans, Asguard is somehow multiracial.
-Women are good/strong, men are bad/weak. Increasingly doughy, handicapped, even pregnant women can all physically dominate groups of men. Women are stoic, battle hardened inventor mechanics who aren't interested in relationships or motherhood because that's a stereotype that harms real women somehow. Men are essentially made out of Styrofoam and possess no physical advantages in any fictional setting. Men are also typically more emotionally incontinent, cowardly and less assertive than women. Expectations subverted.
-Leftist politics. Always. No exceptions. Climate activism, gun control, abortion, women, LGBT, people of color, open borders = good. America, cops, guns, Christians, men, loving ones country, border laws, hot women, hetero relationships = bad.
If a show, movie, book, video game, comic has these elements, it's woke. The end.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 45 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,334,501
@1,334,343 (A)
It only started being used by conservatives as a way of mocking the left for using it, if you think the right doesn't know about it's original meaning then how do you think it started?
No one who considers themselves anti-woke thinks it was invented by the right.
Anonymous G double-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,334,505
@1,334,503 (A)
If someone is just getting into politics they may not know the origin, but most know that it started with the left and the right just adopted it to mean the same thing: leftist cultural perspective.
What else do you think it happening? Have you seen even 1 right-wing talking head saying the right made up the term?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,334,506
@1,334,504 (G)
It refers to being aware of societal injustice and wanting to do something about it, in particular about the systemic oppression of black people. That's not "Marxism".
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,334,507
@previous (A)
Marxism frames society in exactly those terms. It says there are oppressed and oppressors, and that the oppressed will gain consciousness of their status, and act to change it.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,334,513
@1,334,493 (F) > In the simplest of terms woke is just another way of saying cultural marxism.
You beat me to it.
Anon A is an ignoramus and a liar: > systemic oppression of black people
What systemic oppression of black people? Are you talking about the one that ended well over 100 years ago?
> In the simplest of terms woke is just another way of saying cultural marxism. Do you understand now or is that still too difficult to comprehend?
"cultural marxism" is another bullshit term thrown around by the likes of Nazis decades ago (by some other name that would smell as sweet) and Jordan Peterson
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,334,632
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Why should anyone give a fuck what happened 60 years ago? Other than syntax, none of us were here, just like back in the slave days.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,334,670
@1,334,509 (boof)
When 83% vote for the left in a group, yes, you can call it that.
It originated in black culture, but then the left overall adopted the language because blacks are a big part of the base. Right-wing media then used the term because they were responding to leftists using that exact language.
Now you're insisting the right doesn't know where the word comes from, but can't give one single example of the right saying it's anything other than that.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,334,674
@previous (G)
"vote for the left", what is it that you mean by that.
and your other stuff is kind of overlooks the whole screwing over the intent of the usage of the term. today, the term to the general public is "something stupid and bad". that's just fucking rude.
> "vote for the left", what is it that you mean by that.
The democrats get 83% of the black vote. In a two party system, that's what voting for the left means. It was democrats, not republicans, using woke as an unironic way of describing cultural marxism.
> and your other stuff is kind of overlooks the whole screwing over the intent of the usage of the term.
If democrats use the term to describe their outlook, and the republicans just go along with it to describe the same thing, what has been screwed over?
> today, the term to the general public is "something stupid and bad". that's just fucking rude.
The term is not used to anything stupid or bad, it's used to describe the attempts to implement that worldview by using tropes in entertainment, and policies in organizations.
When those attempts at social justice are hamfisted and poorly implemented it's mocked, using the very term people on the left originally used to describe that outlook. The right didn't define it, and they don't pretend to.
> OK, now I know you are full of shit. The democrats. really. nope.
83% of black people in the US vote democrat, and yes the democrats as a whole adopted that term from black culture to describe a worldview that is identical to cultural marxism.
> "republicans just go along with it to describe the same thing" > the intent is a hell of lot more malevolent than that and you know it.
I just said they mocked them, why are you acting like I said they were doing anything other than that?
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,334,685
@1,334,615 (boof) > "cultural marxism" is another bullshit term thrown around by the likes of Nazis decades ago (by some other name that would smell as sweet) and Jordan Peterson
Inaccurate and has one or more logical fallacies.
While the theory of cultural marxism may have been espoused by the Nazis, because it suited their agenda, it was not created by them (or Jordan Peterson for that matter). It had its origins in the Frankfurt School (of philosophy) in the 1920s. Here is a good paper on it: https://jspes.org/samples/JSPES43_3_4_bolton.pdf (don't just read the Wikipedia article, which was clearly written by a cultural Marxist).
I see. I have never personally oppressed a black person either. So I'm curious where you get the "we" from, since nobody in the discussion is responsible for any oppressions.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 37 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,334,802
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Dixiecrats oppressed them economically, and the "believe women" crowd lynched them on accusations alone absent due process.