Topic: Kate Nash has become a prostitute
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #121,942
It turns out you can make more money selling your arse on Onlyfans than you can as a famous musician.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #1,331,708
Feminists can get fucked. "Don't objectify me - porn is degrading" and "porn is empowering women" are diametrically opposed.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,714
It's a few pictures of her clothed arse, hardly porn. It's like when whatsherface from The Sopranos announced she was doing OF, the tabloids went nuts, and it turned out she was just posing in a bikini (so I'm told).
boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,723
@1,331,708 (B)
well, those apparently mixed messages are not coming out of the same people, you see
different people got different ideas
well, those apparently mixed messages are not coming out of the same people, you see
different people got different ideas
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,725
It's better than turning to mail fraud and defrauding war-torn countries in scam energy deals!
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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,727
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Snash
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,775
@1,331,708 (B)
Every part of feminism has a completely contradictory counterelement and none of them seem to understand the hypocrisy.
Every part of feminism has a completely contradictory counterelement and none of them seem to understand the hypocrisy.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,025
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,033
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,088
@1,332,025 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Conservatism is consistently against sex work. Feminism alternates between support and opposition depending on convenience.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You could name any debate feminists are having now, and it would be easy to show the contradiction.
The only way to avoid this is to point to some principle that's agreed upon by conservatives and feminists.
Conservatism is consistently against sex work. Feminism alternates between support and opposition depending on convenience.
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You could name any debate feminists are having now, and it would be easy to show the contradiction.
The only way to avoid this is to point to some principle that's agreed upon by conservatives and feminists.
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Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,095
Who?
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,096
@1,332,088 (I)
you are assuming there is one entity called feminism
your assumption is wrong
you overapply labels to supposed philosophies or schools of thought and get locked into them too easily
you are assuming there is one entity called feminism
your assumption is wrong
you overapply labels to supposed philosophies or schools of thought and get locked into them too easily
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,099
@previous (boof)
No, that's just a bad cop out to avoid responsibility. Classic "no true Scotsman".
Most feminists contradict themselves, it isn't two sects that disagree within feminism overall.
Again this is easy to show, pick any public feminist and they can't help it.
No, that's just a bad cop out to avoid responsibility. Classic "no true Scotsman".
Most feminists contradict themselves, it isn't two sects that disagree within feminism overall.
Again this is easy to show, pick any public feminist and they can't help it.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,102
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,105
@1,332,088 (I)
> Conservatism is consistently against sex work. Feminism alternates between support and opposition depending on convenience.
@1,331,708 (B)
> Feminists can get fucked. "Don't objectify me - porn is degrading" and "porn is empowering women" are diametrically opposed.
Radical feminists have consistently opposed "sex work" and hardcore pornography. Dworkin, MacKinnon, Bindel. Feminism is not a monolith and no (radical, at least) feminist would hold those blatantly contradictory views.
> Conservatism is consistently against sex work. Feminism alternates between support and opposition depending on convenience.
@1,331,708 (B)
> Feminists can get fucked. "Don't objectify me - porn is degrading" and "porn is empowering women" are diametrically opposed.
Radical feminists have consistently opposed "sex work" and hardcore pornography. Dworkin, MacKinnon, Bindel. Feminism is not a monolith and no (radical, at least) feminist would hold those blatantly contradictory views.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,115
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,123
@1,332,105 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I am fine with admitting there's a minority of radical feminists who have an ideology that is consistent.
The typical liberal feminist openly contradicts herself without any recognition of doing it.
I am fine with admitting there's a minority of radical feminists who have an ideology that is consistent.
The typical liberal feminist openly contradicts herself without any recognition of doing it.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,124
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,127
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Claims of female independence combined with support of a welfare state that net redistributes wealth from men to women.
Claims of female independence combined with support of a welfare state that net redistributes wealth from men to women.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,155
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,171
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Men on the whole, have a net contribution to those programs. If men want to claim independence, that matches the overall structure of society. Men support themselves, and then pay into welfare for women.
Men on the whole, have a net contribution to those programs. If men want to claim independence, that matches the overall structure of society. Men support themselves, and then pay into welfare for women.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,172
@previous (I)
Men claim to be strong but use workman's comp, and welfare of all kinds
Men claim to despise promiscuous women but use porn and visit sex workers
Men think it's gay to compliment or console a friend, but not gay to slap a man's ass in a locker room
Men made it very hard for women to live without being married, but fill popular media with jokes about how marriage is a ball and chain for men
Men claim that they don't want to be seen for their money, but then use flashy cars, clothes, and watches to try and attract women
Men claim that no one cares about men's mental health or sexual abuse of men, but then joke and compliment male minors when they are raped by attractive women
Men claim to be strong but use workman's comp, and welfare of all kinds
Men claim to despise promiscuous women but use porn and visit sex workers
Men think it's gay to compliment or console a friend, but not gay to slap a man's ass in a locker room
Men made it very hard for women to live without being married, but fill popular media with jokes about how marriage is a ball and chain for men
Men claim that they don't want to be seen for their money, but then use flashy cars, clothes, and watches to try and attract women
Men claim that no one cares about men's mental health or sexual abuse of men, but then joke and compliment male minors when they are raped by attractive women
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,174
Men made a system where it's very hard for women to work to support themselves, and hard to stay on the workforce after marrying and having children, but then call women gold diggers when they look for men who can financially support them
Men despise gold diggers but think nothing of youth digging or fuck digging
Men joke about murdering the boys who date their daughters because they might become sexually active, but congratulations their sons for scoring
Men despise gold diggers but think nothing of youth digging or fuck digging
Men joke about murdering the boys who date their daughters because they might become sexually active, but congratulations their sons for scoring
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Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,176
@1,332,172 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Men claim to be strong but use workman's comp, and welfare of all kinds
Since you've said this twice, is it fair to assume you are claiming men are actually a net dependent on these programs as opposed to women?
Or are you just ignoring the point I made because you don't care what's true?
> Men claim to despise promiscuous women but use porn and visit sex workers
There are male hypocrites, but I've never claimed otherwise.
Feminism, as an ideology, is contradictory.
That's not the same as claiming women bear responsibility for the actions of some other hypocritical women.
> Men think it's gay to compliment or console a friend, but not gay to slap a man's ass in a locker room
Yes, where's the contradiction?
> Men made it very hard for women to live without being married, but fill popular media with jokes about how marriage is a ball and chain for men
Marriage as an institution only works if the law is written correctly.
> Men claim that they don't want to be seen for their money, but then use flashy cars, clothes, and watches to try and attract women
Exactly, they live in a society, yet criticize it. If they didn't have to do these things, they wouldn't, and wouldn't feel the need to criticize them.
> Men claim that no one cares about men's mental health or sexual abuse of men, but then joke and compliment male minors when they are raped by attractive women
You're attacking a gender, I'm calling an ideology contradictory.
> Men claim to be strong but use workman's comp, and welfare of all kinds
Since you've said this twice, is it fair to assume you are claiming men are actually a net dependent on these programs as opposed to women?
Or are you just ignoring the point I made because you don't care what's true?
> Men claim to despise promiscuous women but use porn and visit sex workers
There are male hypocrites, but I've never claimed otherwise.
Feminism, as an ideology, is contradictory.
That's not the same as claiming women bear responsibility for the actions of some other hypocritical women.
> Men think it's gay to compliment or console a friend, but not gay to slap a man's ass in a locker room
Yes, where's the contradiction?
> Men made it very hard for women to live without being married, but fill popular media with jokes about how marriage is a ball and chain for men
Marriage as an institution only works if the law is written correctly.
> Men claim that they don't want to be seen for their money, but then use flashy cars, clothes, and watches to try and attract women
Exactly, they live in a society, yet criticize it. If they didn't have to do these things, they wouldn't, and wouldn't feel the need to criticize them.
> Men claim that no one cares about men's mental health or sexual abuse of men, but then joke and compliment male minors when they are raped by attractive women
You're attacking a gender, I'm calling an ideology contradictory.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,177
@previous (I)
Im attacking the gender as a whole because their actions directly caused feminism
All of your counter arguments are trash
Im attacking the gender as a whole because their actions directly caused feminism
All of your counter arguments are trash
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,178
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Im attacking the gender as a whole because their actions directly caused feminism
One side of this explicitly bases their allegiance and hatred on the sexual divide.
> All of your counter arguments are trash
You can't refute any of them.
The only one I care to really press: women are not independent, and still depend on men through welfare. Men overall would have a net financial gain if it were all ended tomorrow.
> Im attacking the gender as a whole because their actions directly caused feminism
One side of this explicitly bases their allegiance and hatred on the sexual divide.
> All of your counter arguments are trash
You can't refute any of them.
The only one I care to really press: women are not independent, and still depend on men through welfare. Men overall would have a net financial gain if it were all ended tomorrow.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,180
@previous (I)
So does the other side. They spent millenia proving that
I dont need to
And men aren't independent either. And are far too violent and impulsive to be natural leaders
So does the other side. They spent millenia proving that
I dont need to
And men aren't independent either. And are far too violent and impulsive to be natural leaders
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,182
@1,332,105 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
> Radical feminists
What is a radical feminist? Like what is the point where you say "okay you are not just 'a feminist' but a radical feminist"?
> Radical feminists
What is a radical feminist? Like what is the point where you say "okay you are not just 'a feminist' but a radical feminist"?
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Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,205
@1,332,180 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Which sex is a net contributor, and which sex is a net dependent is not a matter of opinion.
Which sex is a net contributor, and which sex is a net dependent is not a matter of opinion.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,209
@previous (I)
Which sex carries and carries all human life? Sperm is cheap and plentiful
Which sex carries and carries all human life? Sperm is cheap and plentiful
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Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,211
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Multiple nations have successfully tested artificial wombs and cloning human eggs.
When humans are grown in mechanized pods the system will birth creatures that are strong and rational.
Multiple nations have successfully tested artificial wombs and cloning human eggs.
When humans are grown in mechanized pods the system will birth creatures that are strong and rational.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,213
@previous (I)
They haven't successfully raised a child in an artificial womb yet
Show sources
Name these "nations"
They haven't successfully raised a child in an artificial womb yet
Show sources
Name these "nations"
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,214
@1,332,211 (I)
They've actually had more success removing males completely from the process than anything you're yapping about
They've actually had more success removing males completely from the process than anything you're yapping about
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 51 seconds later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,215
@1,332,213 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02901-1
You're right, they haven't birthed anything yet, but they have done it to other mammals and trials for humans are starting now. At the rate technology progresses we will be there within our lifetimes.
For a middle class budget in the meantime, there are many third world countries with legal surrogacy.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02901-1
You're right, they haven't birthed anything yet, but they have done it to other mammals and trials for humans are starting now. At the rate technology progresses we will be there within our lifetimes.
For a middle class budget in the meantime, there are many third world countries with legal surrogacy.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,216
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,217
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes, for a few more years. There is no insurmountable barrier that would make gestating a human any harder than a sheep.
Yes, for a few more years. There is no insurmountable barrier that would make gestating a human any harder than a sheep.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 10 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,263
@previous (N)
We can make children without sperm at all
We also have enough banked sperm to last for a very long time and you can even harvest sperm from corpses
We can make children without sperm at all
We also have enough banked sperm to last for a very long time and you can even harvest sperm from corpses
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,269
Designer babies will happen as parents can choose features, but the day men get removed it will be tea party time again.
Anonymous O double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,332,271
In fact I'll insist they make the baby out of a dead condom if need be.