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Topic: Nothing says Russian then feeding your bosses daughter to the pigs.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 1 year ago #121,893

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14136065/Farm-murder-horror-girl-17-fed-pigs-ALIVE-beaten-raped-worker-held-grudge-against-father.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 25 minutes later[^] [v] #1,331,219

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,220

You again didn't read beyond the headline did you?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,223

@previous (C)
I read the whole thang

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 33 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,225

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Paragraph 1:

"A young female farm worker was fed alive to a herd of pigs"

Paragraph 2:

"Igor Zaika admits attacking his boss's 17-year-old daughter, and is believed to have knocked her unconscious and left her to be mauled to death by pigs"

Paragraph 4:

"It was originally thought that she had been attacked and killed solely by aggressive pigs, but now officers say they only mauled her after she was knocked out"


Conclusion: if you did indeed read the whole thing and still think a girl was "fed alive to a herd of pigs" then you're a retard, which the Daily Mail banks on you being.

(Edited 36 seconds later.)

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,226

One less Russian to worry about!

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,227

@1,331,225 (C)

You understand that an unconscious person is still alive, right?

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,228

@previous (B)
Yes. Do YOU understand that someone fleeing an unconscious person who later gets mauled doesn't mean they've "fed them to a herd of pigs"?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 21 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,231

@previous (C)
What

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 53 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,236

@1,331,228 (C)
Jesus christ. Imagine being this much of an aspie

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,237

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Imagine falling for sensationalized Daily Mail retard-bait.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,244

@1,331,228 (C)

If you knock someone unconscious and throw them into the floor of a pigpen and they are eaten by pigs, then I think it's accurate to say that you've fed someone to pigs.

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,251

@previous (B)

> If you knock someone unconscious and throw them into the floor of a pigpen and they are eaten by pigs

Long story short, you also didn't read beyond the headline. Got it.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,253

@previous (C)

I read the entire article, including your quotes in this thread.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,255

@1,331,251 (C)
What point are you trying to make?

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,256

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> What point are you trying to make?

That Igor Zaika did not feed a 17 year old girl to pigs, as that Daily Mail headline says, and which the actual article itself says is bullshit.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,257

@previous (C)
> That Igor Zaika did not feed a 17 year old girl to pigs

From the article:

> 'The man deliberately left the girl to be eaten by pigs, because he knew that the animals would attack the body', said a report by news outlet Readovka.

If you knock someone out knowing they'll be mauled by pigs, and they're mauled by pigs, you have fed that person to pigs.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,258

@1,331,255 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I think anon c thought he had a point, realised he doesn't and can't back down

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,259

@1,331,257 (F)

> >That Igor Zaika did not feed a 17 year old girl to pigs
>
> From the article:
>
> >'The man deliberately left the girl to be eaten by pigs, because he knew that the animals would attack the body, said a report by news outlet Readovka.
>
> If you knock someone out knowing they'll be mauled by pigs, and they're mauled by pigs, you have fed that person to pigs.

Once more: she was not eaten by pigs.

And 2nd: what you've quoted about intent is speculation by an unnamed newspaper source.

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 year ago, 53 seconds later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,261

@1,331,258 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)

> I think anon c thought he had a point, realised he doesn't and can't back down

Yes or no: was any part of that girl eaten by pigs, according to that article?

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,263

@previous (C)

You're clearly not an expert in how pigs eat humans. They tear open the belly and consume the innards.

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 21 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,264

@1,331,259 (C)
> Once more: she was not eaten by pigs.

She was left to be mauled and died from massive blood loss after sustaining multiple bite injuries. She doesn't need to have been cooked and hand-fed to them for it to be fair to say she was "fed to pigs". The Daily Mail is using the same language as Readovka.

Victims of Roman damnatio ad bestias often weren't literally eaten either, yet we still describe them as being "fed to the animals" or "eaten alive".

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,266

@1,331,263 (B)

> They tear open the belly and consume the innards.

Then why doesn't the article state that that's what's happened here?

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,267

@previous (C)

Why would a news article about a person being charged with murder go into detail about how pigs devour humans?

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,268

@1,331,264 (F)

> She was left to be mauled

Citation by someone with an actual name needed.

Also, thanks for agreeing she was not eaten by pigs and hence the story is bullshit.

> and died from massive blood loss after sustaining multiple bite injuries.

Not what the article says.

Also, thanks for again agreeing she was not fed to pigs.

You think a guy attacks and rapes a woman and then flees the scene leaving her still alive in the belief that a bunch of 'domesticated' pigs she'd literally just been feeding would finish off the job?

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,269

@1,331,267 (B)

> Why would a news article about a person being charged with murder go into detail about how pigs devour humans?

Because it's a tabloid paper suggesting her boyfriend was met with a sickening scene of...er, what looked like a few "bite marks". If that girl's guts has been eaten out then believe me the Daily Mail of all tabloids would have it in the headline.

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,270

@1,331,268 (C)
As I said:

> Victims of Roman damnatio ad bestias often weren't literally eaten either, yet we still describe them as being "fed to the animals"

The article says she was fed to pigs. Battering someone until they're unconscious and leaving them to be mauled to death fits the bill.

"Eaten alive" is used once in the article, inside a quotation.

Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,271

@1,331,268 (C)

> > and died from massive blood loss after sustaining multiple bite injuries.
>
> Not what the article says.

"He called an ambulance but Milena had already died from blood loss following the violent mauling."

"She was found with multiple wounds to her head and body from 'pig bites'."

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,272

@1,331,269 (C)

Yes, I'm sure he ran out of the shed vomiting and terrified because she had minor injuries.

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,273

https://readovka.news/news/212529

Забивший 17-летнюю девушку мужчина специально оставил ее на съедение свиньям

Man Who Beat Up 17-Year-Old Girl Deliberately Left Her to Be Eaten by Pigs

And the more recent article: https://readovka.news/news/212608

(Edited 2 minutes later.)

Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,275

@1,331,268 (C)

> You think a guy attacks and rapes a woman and then flees the scene leaving her still alive in the belief that a bunch of 'domesticated' pigs she'd literally just been feeding would finish off the job?

By his own admission, yes.

Житель деревни Укшанка, который ранее был задержан по подозрению в убийстве по неосторожности, признался, что специально оставил школьницу на съедение свиньям. Об этом сообщило ГСУ СК РФ по Красноярскому краю и Республике Хакасия.

A resident of the village of Ukshanka, who was previously detained on suspicion of manslaughter, admitted that he deliberately left the schoolgirl to be eaten by pigs. This was reported by the Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for Krasnoyarsk Krai and the Republic of Khakassia.

https://readovka.news/news/212529

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,278

@previous (F)

> By his own admission, yes.

Citation needed. Show his confession. Or you're trusting the word of an unnamed Russian government official that this "vodka-fuelled" drunken wreck who fled the scene in terror had this masterplan all along?

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,281

@1,331,272 (B)

> Yes, I'm sure he ran out of the shed vomiting and terrified because she had minor injuries.

Or because he'd already beaten her to death, Sherlock.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,282

@1,331,278 (C)
You're mad weird for pushing a point that doesn't make sense

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,283

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What part of my point doesn't make sense to you?

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 24 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,286

More details:

> The girl, who was found dead in a barn where pigs were kept, had her femoral artery bitten through. This was reported to 19rusinfo.ru by the Main Investigative Directorate of the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation for Khakassia and Krasnoyarsk Krai. In addition, the deceased had a finger bitten off.
https://19rusinfo.ru/proisshestviya/82868-u-devushki-najdennoj-mertvoj-v-zagone-svinej-peregryzena-arteriya

> Preliminary forensic data indicate that the schoolgirl died from blood loss caused by damage to the femoral artery.
TASS (Earliest report, before the guy's confession.)

> Law enforcement officials believe that the man wanted to take revenge on her father, his boss, and slaughter his cattle, but he came across the girl and hit her several times with a stick. The girl lost consciousness and fell in the barn, the pigs bit through her femoral artery, and she died from blood loss.
https://www.gazeta.ru/social/2024/11/26/20139307.shtml

> The drunk and disgruntled employee took a stick and hit the schoolgirl on the head several times. She fell. The neighbor knew that the girl could have been attacked by pigs, but left her lying in the barn and disappeared. The man was detained. During interrogation, he fully admitted his guilt.
радио «Красноярск Главный»

> The man knew that the pigs could eat the body, so he left it and walked away. In order to cover up the crime, he burned the deceased's phone and a log.
https://readovka.news/news/212529

> According to detectives, last Saturday the farmer and his wife left for Krasnoyarsk, and the drunk worker decided to kill the boss's animals out of revenge, took a knife, a log and made his way into the farm building with the cattle. Seeing the girl there, he hit her several times on the head with a birch log and then left her unconscious, realizing that the pigs could attack the schoolgirl.
>
> "To cover up the traces of the crime, the man took a telephone and a log from the scene of the crime, after which he burned them in the stove at his home," the department said.
https://rg.ru/2024/11/27/reg-sibfo/na-soseda-pogibshej-pod-krasnoiarskom-shkolnicy-zaveli-delo-o-zhestokom-ubijstve.html

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,290

@previous (F)

> The man knew that the pigs could eat the body

Then why didn't they?

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 51 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,291

So it's clearly being widely reported that he knew she would be attacked if left alone and unconscious, and confessed as such. You don't have to be a cattleman, which he is, to know pigs will maul and eat a lifeless body: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/02/oregon-farmer-eaten-by-pigs

Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,292

@1,331,290 (C)
Some time after he attacked her and fed her to the pigs, her family intervened and found her lifeless body. She had already sustained massive blood loss from the pig bites to her femoral artery (her finger was also bitten off), and sadly succumbed to her injuries.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,293

@1,331,291 (F)

> So it's clearly being widely reported that he knew she would be attacked if left alone and unconscious

A bunch of online tabloids 'quoting' the same nameless Russian government official's speculative and evidence-free claim =/= "widely reported".

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 year ago, 54 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,294

@1,331,292 (F)

> Some time after he attacked her and fed her to the pigs

Evidence needed that he fed her to the pigs.

Anonymous C triple-posted this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,295

From this:

> You're clearly not an expert in how pigs eat humans. They tear open the belly and consume the innards.

To this:

> She had already sustained massive blood loss from the pig bites to her femoral artery

That would be the femoral artery located in the belly and innards I suppose?

Anonymous C quadruple-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,296

@1,331,292 (F)

> Some time after he attacked her and fed her to the pigs, her family intervened and found her lifeless body.

"Some time after I fed my girlfriend the cake, my sister walked in and discovered the cake"

You're a special one aren't you?

And it was hours before the family showed up because they'd been trying to contact the boyfriend, yet all the wild voracious herd of pigs had done was nibble a finger?

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,297

@previous (C)
See:
@1,331,264 (F)

Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 24 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,298

@1,331,295 (C)
> You're clearly not an expert in how pigs eat humans. They tear open the belly and consume the innards.

I never said that.

Anonymous F triple-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,299

@1,331,296 (C)
> "Some time after I fed my girlfriend the cake, my sister walked in and discovered the cake"

"Was fed to pigs" versus "her entire body was eaten by pigs; nothing remains".

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,301

@1,331,296 (C)
You think they needed to have consumed her entire body for it to have been counted as eaten, in your mind?

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,305

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Exactly. They chewed her ear off, bit through her femoral artery, and left her covered in bite marks. That qualifies.

The article doesn't even say she was "eaten" anyway. It says she was "fed to pigs". If I hear that someone knocked a dude out and fed them to wolves but they miraculously survived, I wouldn't bat an eyelid at their use of "fed".

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 40 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,306

@1,331,301 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I'm going to save us some time. Yes or no: did Igor Zaika feed that girl to pigs, based on that article?

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 24 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,307

"The baby was fed mashed carrots, but she spat most of it out."

"What? She can't have been fed carrots, because there are still carrots on her plate!"

Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,308

Would you complain if someone said, "My dog was fed his usual dinner, but he only ate one bite."

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 42 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,309

@1,331,307 (F)

> "The parents left the baby in the vicinity of mashed carrots and fled the kitchen. They fed her mashed carrots!"

Again, you're a special one aren't you?

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,311

Anon C is trollin boys, confirmed

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 34 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,313

@1,331,308 (F)

> Would you complain if someone said, "I left my unconscious dog in the vicinity of food and then fled the house in a drunken panic. It's what I call feeding!"

Fixed to show you you're a special one, aren't you.

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,314

@1,331,311 (B)

> Anon C is trollin boys, confirmed

Says the guy who wrote this:

@1,331,263 (B)

> You're clearly not an expert in how pigs eat humans. They tear open the belly and consume the innards.

Weird how that girl's belly and innards were untouched. Maybe the rapacious herd of pigs were planning on nibbling their way to her guts via her pinkie.

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,315

@previous (C)

> Weird how that girl's belly and innards were untouched.

Citation needed.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,316

@1,331,306 (C)
Yes

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 16 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,317

@1,331,315 (F)
Your own article that says the extent of her injuries was a cut on her thigh and her little pinkie sustaining a nibble, dingbat.

You really are a special one aren't you.

Anonymous C double-posted this 1 year ago, 24 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,318

@1,331,316 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> Yes

Evidence?

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,319

@1,331,314 (C)

> Weird how that girl's belly and innards were untouched

One minute the source is disreputable and worth nothing, the next it's completely accurate and described everything perfectly

Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,321

@1,331,317 (C)

> Your own article that says the extent of her injuries was a cut on her thigh and her little pinkie sustaining a nibble.

False. It mentions those injuries but never claims they were the full extent of her injuries.

We don't know the full extent yet. We only know she had injuries to her head, leg, and hand. The TASS article cites a "preliminary medical report". The NIA-Hakasia article describes "multiple animal bite marks on the head and various parts of the body" and closes to say a "forensic medical examination has been ordered and is ongoing".

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,322

@previous (F)

> We don't know the full extent yet.

So we know her finger was bitten and her thigh was cut but they're still trying to figure out the little detail of whether or not her belly was torn open and her innards ripped out?

You really are a special one aren't you?

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,323

@previous (C)

That's how pigs eat people, they go for the soft parts

(Edited 17 seconds later.)

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,324

@previous (B)
Citation needed.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,327

@previous (C)

Pigs

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,330

@previous (B)
So you have no citation. You're dismissed.

Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 24 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,331

@previous (C)

The citation is pigs

Anonymous B double-posted this 1 year ago, 57 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,332

Also they enjoy the face, cheeks and tongue

And ass

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,337

Nothing is true.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,346

@1,331,311 (B)
I think anon c has trolled themselves to be honest

Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,356

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
See:
@1,331,261 (C)

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 16 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,331,412

This threads grate.
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