boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later[^][v]#1,330,832
if I may speak out of turn, perhaps it is presumptuous to assume there is necessarily degradation and humiliation felt
and if one seeks those feelings, perhaps it is a way to handle conflict between mental shame and physical pleasure -- that is, "sure I'm doing a bad thing, but at least I'm feeling like a piece of shit like I ought to and maybe the good loarde will take that into account"