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Topic: Was the USSR all THAT bad?

Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #121,199

People got free housing, free cars, free food, had jobs, were allowed to travel and go on holiday, etc.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 53 seconds later[^] [v] #1,325,480

If that's true, why did they need armed guards to stop people from going west?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,481

@previous (B)
The West definitely had it better. I'm just saying, it wasn't THAT bad like people make it out to be.

Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 30 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,483

@previous (A)
Neither was the antebellum South.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,484

I suppose it's like anywhere, the top 20% do alright (Russian oligarchs probably had it ok).

An image search for "1970's USSR photos" brings up a mixed bag: some having a good time, but also a lot of frowns out there.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,486

@1,325,483 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It was pretty bad for the slaves, I would imagine.

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 1 year ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,490

@previous (A)
The North definitely had it better. I’m just saying, it wasn’t THAT bad like people make it out to be. They had free housing, free food, and had jobs. Not cars though (but massa didn’t get one either) they weren’t really a thing yet until the early 20th century. But if they were a thing, I’m sure free motor transportation would be part of the bargain as well.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,491

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Do you think the average USSR citizen's lot in life was the same as a human chattel slave's?

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,492

@previous (A)
Is a McDonalds cashier’s lot in life the same as a medieval serf? Comparing hypothetical people across different countries in different centuries with different political and economic systems is more or less pointless and absurd.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,494

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Ok, but do you think the average USSR citizen's lot in life was the same as a human chattel slave's? A straight answer would be preferred.

Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,497

@op

Than how do you explain the bread lines?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,498

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
There were negative aspects for sure, but was it really terrible?

Erik !saAqdaazn2 replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,499

@previous (A)
What? Queueing up for hours to get basic food stuffs? Or in general.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,500

@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
In general. The average person, for example, got a free apartment and many got free cars. I am, not saying it was great, but maybe not as bad as people think.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,517

@1,325,490 (Meta !Sober//iZs)

> They had free housing, free food, and had jobs

The housing: cramped, dirty shanty shacks
The food: Maggot-infested slop
The job: Work all day in the burning sun or get whipped

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,523

@1,325,494 (A)

> Ok, but do you think the average USSR citizen's lot in life was the same as a human chattel slave's? A straight answer would be preferred.

Ladies and gentlemen the goal posts are mobile!!! 😂

Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 1 year ago, 52 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,524

I never said it was awesome, I’m just saying, it wasn’t THAT bad like people make it out to be.

boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,542

like a lot of things, depended on who you were, where you were, and when

I heard some things about governance under Stalin

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 18 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,548

Remember when America's greatest living writer of the time (my own opinion) travelled through the Soviet Union and was amused to find that Western propaganda about the country was indeed a pile of scare-mongering self-congratulatory horseshit?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Russian_Journal

"This literary and photographic record of life under Joseph Stalin's rule is a historical document.[2] Steinbeck and Capa portray Soviet people as living in extremely different conditions from those in the reports among the West of the day: life in the cities and the country appears peaceful and very similar to that of other peoples in Europe at the time"

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,570

@previous (H)

Why would I remember something that happened in 1948?

Anonymous H replied with this 1 year ago, 29 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,573

@previous (Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU)
Because history matters, retard.

Oatmeal Fucker !BYUc1TwJMU replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,575

@previous (H)

All timelines matter, pig dog

pew joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,325,589

@1,325,490 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
getting whipped raped and sold by any whitey that comes by seems bad idk
modern labor not that much better but unions are a thing

@OP there were decades where most werent allowed to travel as theyd just flee. so not that.

those perks are pretty good. but eastern europe had cars and such before socialism that were ok. food wasnt of good quality if it was cheap. officers willing to grill and fire you if you said bad things about the regime wasnt great either.

ussr saw better results than satellites.

there were good policies though si.

my grandpa got land and a living he never forgot.
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