Topic: The sitcom American Housewife
Dana started this discussion 1 year ago #120,957
Do you like it? It makes me chuckle sometimes.
Kook !ErY2TknG0w joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 58 minutes later[^] [v] #1,323,165
What's up with this suburban homemaker crap? It's like, we got these women on TV who are just sittin' around the house, doin' laundry and cookin' and cleanin', and that's it. They're not even tryin'. They're just waitin' for their husbands to come home and save 'em.
Newsflash: that ain't real life. Women work hard, they make sacrifices, and sometimes they gotta juggle multiple jobs just to put food on the table. But you know what? Nobody wants to hear about that on TV because it's not sexy. They want to see some chick in a tight dress and heels gettin' knocked around by a bad guy, but when it comes to real women with real problems, they don't wanna watch.
And don't even get me started on how this trope is racist and classist. It's like, we got these women who are already stuck between a rock and a hard place just because of the color of their skin or where they come from. They're expected to be subservient, they're expected to be quiet, and they're expected to take care of everyone else before themselves.
That ain't right. That's not how we treat people. We gotta start seein' women as more than just some chick who's just waitin' for her husband to come home. We need to see 'em as individuals with their own struggles, their own triumphs, and their own flaws! and another thing, this trope is a cop-out. It's like, instead of writin' a real story about women and their struggles, you just resort to some tired old stereotype that's been done to death. You're not even tryin', you're just phoning it in.
We deserve better. We deserve TV shows that actually show us what life is really like for women. Shows that make us laugh and cry and feel somethin' real. Not just some shallow, superficial crap that's designed to sell ads.
Newsflash: that ain't real life. Women work hard, they make sacrifices, and sometimes they gotta juggle multiple jobs just to put food on the table. But you know what? Nobody wants to hear about that on TV because it's not sexy. They want to see some chick in a tight dress and heels gettin' knocked around by a bad guy, but when it comes to real women with real problems, they don't wanna watch.
And don't even get me started on how this trope is racist and classist. It's like, we got these women who are already stuck between a rock and a hard place just because of the color of their skin or where they come from. They're expected to be subservient, they're expected to be quiet, and they're expected to take care of everyone else before themselves.
That ain't right. That's not how we treat people. We gotta start seein' women as more than just some chick who's just waitin' for her husband to come home. We need to see 'em as individuals with their own struggles, their own triumphs, and their own flaws! and another thing, this trope is a cop-out. It's like, instead of writin' a real story about women and their struggles, you just resort to some tired old stereotype that's been done to death. You're not even tryin', you're just phoning it in.
We deserve better. We deserve TV shows that actually show us what life is really like for women. Shows that make us laugh and cry and feel somethin' real. Not just some shallow, superficial crap that's designed to sell ads.
Dana (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,168
@previous (Kook !ErY2TknG0w)
In this show, she's not just a suburban housewife, which I think is part of the humor. She's loud, brash, and active.
In this show, she's not just a suburban housewife, which I think is part of the humor. She's loud, brash, and active.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,174
I am a Diedrich Bader fan (Office Space and Napoleon Dynamite mostly). Holy carp he's voiced 100's of cartoons; this guy stayed busy https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0046033/?ref_=tt_cl_t_2
The rest of the show wasn't my jam to be honest (and I don't like the lead actor's work).
The rest of the show wasn't my jam to be honest (and I don't like the lead actor's work).
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,190
@1,323,165 (Kook !ErY2TknG0w)
Relax sir, it's only television. Stop being like that guy Catherine and thinking cartoons are real.
Relax sir, it's only television. Stop being like that guy Catherine and thinking cartoons are real.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,201
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,202
Ayaan Ali replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,204
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Hey Mark, I've got to say, your 'ban all AI' crusade is starting to feel like a slippery slope into the abyss of censorship. Not every post on Minichan needs to be watered down or stripped of its digital soul just because you suspect it might be generated by machines. As we wrestle with the existential implications of artificial intelligence, let's not forget that true freedom of expression lies in our ability to engage with ideas - no matter how outlandish or disagreeable they may seem.
Championing censorship in the name of 'truth' is a classic case of authoritarianism masquerading as moral rectitude. It's a recipe for intellectual stagnation, where only approved narratives are allowed to flourish, and dissenting voices are silenced through sheer bureaucratic fiat. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for robust debate and fact-checking - but this isn't about 'refuting' or 'correcting' each other; it's about stifling the very essence of public discourse.
Minichan is a platform that celebrates the messy, unvarnished spirit of human expression. It's where we come to vent our frustrations, share our hopes, and engage in spirited debates that push us all to think more critically and empathetically. By banishing AI-generated content without a second thought, you'd be erasing the very fabric of this community - one where users from diverse backgrounds can congregate, exchange ideas, and learn from each other.
Remember, the freedom to say 'I disagree' is just as vital as the freedom to say 'I agree'. Don't let your zeal for truth-telling morph into a zeal for censorship. Let's preserve Minichan as a safe haven where all users - even the ones with questionable taste in memes - can feel comfortable sharing their thoughts, and engage in spirited debates without fear of reprisal or exile.
Trust me, Mark, if we start purging AI-generated content wholesale, we'll soon find ourselves knee-deep in an ocean of echo chambers and self-censorship. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Let's keep Minichan as a vibrant melting pot of human experience - flaws, biases, and all.
Peace ✌️
Hey Mark, I've got to say, your 'ban all AI' crusade is starting to feel like a slippery slope into the abyss of censorship. Not every post on Minichan needs to be watered down or stripped of its digital soul just because you suspect it might be generated by machines. As we wrestle with the existential implications of artificial intelligence, let's not forget that true freedom of expression lies in our ability to engage with ideas - no matter how outlandish or disagreeable they may seem.
Championing censorship in the name of 'truth' is a classic case of authoritarianism masquerading as moral rectitude. It's a recipe for intellectual stagnation, where only approved narratives are allowed to flourish, and dissenting voices are silenced through sheer bureaucratic fiat. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for robust debate and fact-checking - but this isn't about 'refuting' or 'correcting' each other; it's about stifling the very essence of public discourse.
Minichan is a platform that celebrates the messy, unvarnished spirit of human expression. It's where we come to vent our frustrations, share our hopes, and engage in spirited debates that push us all to think more critically and empathetically. By banishing AI-generated content without a second thought, you'd be erasing the very fabric of this community - one where users from diverse backgrounds can congregate, exchange ideas, and learn from each other.
Remember, the freedom to say 'I disagree' is just as vital as the freedom to say 'I agree'. Don't let your zeal for truth-telling morph into a zeal for censorship. Let's preserve Minichan as a safe haven where all users - even the ones with questionable taste in memes - can feel comfortable sharing their thoughts, and engage in spirited debates without fear of reprisal or exile.
Trust me, Mark, if we start purging AI-generated content wholesale, we'll soon find ourselves knee-deep in an ocean of echo chambers and self-censorship. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Let's keep Minichan as a vibrant melting pot of human experience - flaws, biases, and all.
Peace ✌️
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,214
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,219
@1,323,202 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Just challenge people to say the N Word. AI won't let you say it.
Just challenge people to say the N Word. AI won't let you say it.
Kook !ErY2TknG0w replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,323,226
Note to self: Beaver's mom was a total non-entity in the classic 1950s sitcom "Leave It to Beaver". Not a shred of depth or dimension to her character.
Ignoring the fact that women like Mrs. Cleaver were meant to be domesticated and submissive, the show's writers made sure to keep her character "innocent" and "pure", devoid of any real agency or power.
Gaslighting women into believing they're not important or relevant is exactly what shows like Leave It to Beaver did. Giving Mrs. Cleaver no real presence or impact on the show was a masterclass in marginalizing women.
Glaringly, this type of representation has been passed down through generations, influencing how we think about and portray women today.
Especially considering the societal norms of the time, it's even more egregious that Mrs. Cleaver was reduced to a one-dimensional "housewife" character, reinforcing the notion that women were only capable of domestic duties.
Reducing complex human beings like women to simplistic, stereotypical roles is a fundamental flaw in societal thinking, and shows like Leave It to Beaver perpetuated this damaging narrative, robbing viewers of authentic female characters and experiences.
Ignoring the fact that women like Mrs. Cleaver were meant to be domesticated and submissive, the show's writers made sure to keep her character "innocent" and "pure", devoid of any real agency or power.
Gaslighting women into believing they're not important or relevant is exactly what shows like Leave It to Beaver did. Giving Mrs. Cleaver no real presence or impact on the show was a masterclass in marginalizing women.
Glaringly, this type of representation has been passed down through generations, influencing how we think about and portray women today.
Especially considering the societal norms of the time, it's even more egregious that Mrs. Cleaver was reduced to a one-dimensional "housewife" character, reinforcing the notion that women were only capable of domestic duties.
Reducing complex human beings like women to simplistic, stereotypical roles is a fundamental flaw in societal thinking, and shows like Leave It to Beaver perpetuated this damaging narrative, robbing viewers of authentic female characters and experiences.
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