Topic: you know, the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory could have been an even darker shittier story
boof started this discussion 1 year ago #120,709
you know what I'm talking about. the winning kid "wins" getting [redacted]
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Willy Wonka and Getting Raped in Federal Prison after Being Convicted of Mail Fraud.
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The great glass [expunged]
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WONKABARS ARE POOP
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The Oompa Loompas were originally Africans who were indentured servants
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 36 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,150
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
well considering that all the african slaves that white people interacted with were 100% criminals in their home countries that in all likelihood would have otherwise been put to death and probably eaten by the rest of african society, and that they were sold to the jewish traders that introduced them to america BY THEIR PEERS rather than abducted by anyone, id say that the oompa loompas in mr wonkas employ likely lived a life of luxury and thus nobody of real merit would care.
also, inb4 retarded kookism
well considering that all the african slaves that white people interacted with were 100% criminals in their home countries that in all likelihood would have otherwise been put to death and probably eaten by the rest of african society, and that they were sold to the jewish traders that introduced them to america BY THEIR PEERS rather than abducted by anyone, id say that the oompa loompas in mr wonkas employ likely lived a life of luxury and thus nobody of real merit would care.
also, inb4 retarded kookism
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,153
@previous (G)
They weren't all criminals and not all traders were Jewish
Also, your comment had nothing to do with anything
They weren't all criminals and not all traders were Jewish
Also, your comment had nothing to do with anything
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@1,321,138 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> The Oompa Loompas were originally Africans who were indentured servants
You know oompa loompas aren't real, right?
> The Oompa Loompas were originally Africans who were indentured servants
You know oompa loompas aren't real, right?
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@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Are you having a hard time keeping up? We all know it's a fictional book
no it isnt
> Are you having a hard time keeping up? We all know it's a fictional book
no it isnt
boof (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,270
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,299
@previous (boof)
they have excellent dance technique and they stole the recipe for matzo, couscous, and everything derived from those two from us ethopians. 😢
they have excellent dance technique and they stole the recipe for matzo, couscous, and everything derived from those two from us ethopians. 😢
Anonymous H replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,318
@1,321,175 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Are you having a hard time keeping up? We all know it's a fictional book
You don't seem to think so. You just said they were originally Africans who were indentured servants, presumably because Roald Dahl initially described them as pygmies. But they aren't/weren't. They are completely made up.
> Are you having a hard time keeping up? We all know it's a fictional book
You don't seem to think so. You just said they were originally Africans who were indentured servants, presumably because Roald Dahl initially described them as pygmies. But they aren't/weren't. They are completely made up.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,322
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@previous (B)
> The original illustrations clearly make them African.
Yes, but they aren't though, because, you know, they don't actually exist.
> The original illustrations clearly make them African.
Yes, but they aren't though, because, you know, they don't actually exist.
boof (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,326
this is from a time when authors of the day grew up with adventure books where other places in the world were distant lands with peculiar and exotic people that may as well have been faeries and goblins that were not commonly seen by a boy
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,337
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@1,321,326 (boof)
> this is from a time when authors of the day grew up with adventure books where other places in the world were distant lands with peculiar and exotic people that may as well have been faeries and goblins that were not commonly seen by a boy
1964 was only 60 years ago, not 500.
> this is from a time when authors of the day grew up with adventure books where other places in the world were distant lands with peculiar and exotic people that may as well have been faeries and goblins that were not commonly seen by a boy
1964 was only 60 years ago, not 500.
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@1,321,353 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> It's weird that you believe this
It's weird that you believe oompa-loompas were real African slaves.
> It's weird that you believe this
It's weird that you believe oompa-loompas were real African slaves.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,366
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@1,321,358 (boof)
> the author was not a mere boy in 1964, genous
No, but that's when he wrote Charlie.
Also, his favourite author, as a boy, was Beatrix Potter - again, the 1920s were hardly the days when deepest darkest Africa was still a largely undiscovered, mysterious place.
> the author was not a mere boy in 1964, genous
No, but that's when he wrote Charlie.
Also, his favourite author, as a boy, was Beatrix Potter - again, the 1920s were hardly the days when deepest darkest Africa was still a largely undiscovered, mysterious place.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,369
@previous (H)
In 1958 the first Paddington book came out and they used the term deepest, darkest Africa
In 1958 the first Paddington book came out and they used the term deepest, darkest Africa
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Anonymous H replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,371
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> In 1958 the first Paddington book came out and they used the term deepest, darkest Africa
Really? I'm sure it was "Darkest Peru"...
You're right, it was originally Africa but Bond's agent explained to him that there were no bears in Africa, so he changed it to Peru.
> In 1958 the first Paddington book came out and they used the term deepest, darkest Africa
Really? I'm sure it was "Darkest Peru"...
You're right, it was originally Africa but Bond's agent explained to him that there were no bears in Africa, so he changed it to Peru.
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boof (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,373
@1,321,368 (H)
yeah no shit that's when he wrote the book, so what
read the post you originally commented on again
yeah no shit that's when he wrote the book, so what
read the post you originally commented on again
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,381
@1,321,371 (H)
In 1948 the Swedish book Pippi Longstocking in the South Seas was published. In the book her father has been "adventuring" in the South Seas and has been given the title, King of The Negros
In 1948 the Swedish book Pippi Longstocking in the South Seas was published. In the book her father has been "adventuring" in the South Seas and has been given the title, King of The Negros
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boof (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,382
@1,321,368 (H)
to the average kid reading adventure stories by people from the 1800s, yeah other lands are seen as something far away and exotic. hell, National Geographic was popular for such reasons.
to the average kid reading adventure stories by people from the 1800s, yeah other lands are seen as something far away and exotic. hell, National Geographic was popular for such reasons.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,386
@1,321,381 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Also the term for negros is considered to be a slur now and Swedish people were mad as fuck that the artist censored hee own work
Also the term for negros is considered to be a slur now and Swedish people were mad as fuck that the artist censored hee own work
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Anonymous H replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,418
@1,321,373 (boof)
> yeah no shit that's when he wrote the book, so what
Do calm down.
> read the post you originally commented on again
Okay, I'll even break it down for you:
> this is from a time
(The 1960s)
> when authors of the day
(Roald Dahl, the 1960s)
> grew up
(In the 1920s)
> with adventure books
(e.g. Beatrix Potter, which was Dahl's favourite when he was a boy)
> where other places in the world were distant lands with peculiar and exotic people
By 1920, Rhodesia was 30 years old, the British Raj was over 60 years old, and the famous mathematician, Ramanujan, had done his stint at Cambridge.
> that may as well have been faeries and goblins that were not commonly seen by a boy
I found it a bit odd that you would say this, because it kind of goes against the usual lefty line that Britain has always, throughout history, been a multicultural melting pot... You can't have it both ways - either people from different ethnicities were "peculiar" and "exotic", like "faeries" and "goblins" to English people in the early 20th or they were commonplace. Which is it?
> yeah no shit that's when he wrote the book, so what
Do calm down.
> read the post you originally commented on again
Okay, I'll even break it down for you:
> this is from a time
(The 1960s)
> when authors of the day
(Roald Dahl, the 1960s)
> grew up
(In the 1920s)
> with adventure books
(e.g. Beatrix Potter, which was Dahl's favourite when he was a boy)
> where other places in the world were distant lands with peculiar and exotic people
By 1920, Rhodesia was 30 years old, the British Raj was over 60 years old, and the famous mathematician, Ramanujan, had done his stint at Cambridge.
> that may as well have been faeries and goblins that were not commonly seen by a boy
I found it a bit odd that you would say this, because it kind of goes against the usual lefty line that Britain has always, throughout history, been a multicultural melting pot... You can't have it both ways - either people from different ethnicities were "peculiar" and "exotic", like "faeries" and "goblins" to English people in the early 20th or they were commonplace. Which is it?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 32 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,422
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 28 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,423
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
they generally are the same thing though, so no, your cake is going to be a collectors item here
they generally are the same thing though, so no, your cake is going to be a collectors item here
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,425
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Anonymous H replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,432
@previous (boof)
You have to be more literal. Kook is too simple minded to connect the dots and figure out that you were referring to the idiom, "you can't have your cake and eat it".
You have to be more literal. Kook is too simple minded to connect the dots and figure out that you were referring to the idiom, "you can't have your cake and eat it".
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boof (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,465
@1,321,418 (H)
your focus on Beatrix Potter singularly is falacious
surely he had familiarity with other works and the general culture at large as a boy
your focus on Beatrix Potter singularly is falacious
surely he had familiarity with other works and the general culture at large as a boy
boof (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,466
> > that may as well have been faeries and goblins that were not commonly seen by a boy
> I found it a bit odd that you would say this, because it kind of goes against the usual lefty line that Britain has always, throughout history, been a multicultural melting pot... You can't have it both ways - either people from different ethnicities were "peculiar" and "exotic", like "faeries" and "goblins" to English people in the early 20th or they were commonplace. Which is it?
don't know what you fuck is this
> I found it a bit odd that you would say this, because it kind of goes against the usual lefty line that Britain has always, throughout history, been a multicultural melting pot... You can't have it both ways - either people from different ethnicities were "peculiar" and "exotic", like "faeries" and "goblins" to English people in the early 20th or they were commonplace. Which is it?
don't know what you fuck is this
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hence the post
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@previous (D)
> >Britain has always, throughout history, been a multicultural melting pot
>
> Ha ha
You laugh (because, yes, it's ridiculous) but it's what the BBC would have you believe, and many sadly do.
> >Britain has always, throughout history, been a multicultural melting pot
>
> Ha ha
You laugh (because, yes, it's ridiculous) but it's what the BBC would have you believe, and many sadly do.
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@1,321,465 (boof)
> your focus on Beatrix Potter singularly is falacious
No it isn't. I used this as an example because I happen to know this fact about him. He even met Potter when he was about 6 years old. She was a massive inspiration for him.
> surely he had familiarity with other works and the general culture at large as a boy
I'm sure he did, yes. Rudyard Kipling & Lewis Carroll would be 2 more examples. He would also, I'm sure, have been greatly inspired by Norwegian fairy tales told to him by his grandmother.
> your focus on Beatrix Potter singularly is falacious
No it isn't. I used this as an example because I happen to know this fact about him. He even met Potter when he was about 6 years old. She was a massive inspiration for him.
> surely he had familiarity with other works and the general culture at large as a boy
I'm sure he did, yes. Rudyard Kipling & Lewis Carroll would be 2 more examples. He would also, I'm sure, have been greatly inspired by Norwegian fairy tales told to him by his grandmother.
boof (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,321,662
hey swell