Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago#120,407
It baffles me that we have all the information available online to learn anything for free, but you still have to pay $30,000 per year just to hear some professor explain everything so poorly that you end up learning it all from the internet anyways.
We could replace the whole thing with a proctored exam and cut the cost down to a few hundred dollars. Doing this wouldn't prevent anyone from paying 6 figures for tutoring to prepare themselves, it would just let people attempt to prove their knowledge if they can find another way to study.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,318,146
college has community tho
and folks to meet irl
and some professors are ok
should be cheaper by law tho
private schools have fat endowments
kinda a scam
id go where they give scholarships, dont pay 30k
i got most my tuition covered
couldve gone to private too but didnt for some dumb reason
too hard to find right one i guess
boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,318,156
I have heard that a good school will ensure that you have what they call internships at good workplaces. Not to be confused with the medical duty, they are general work placements that get you known at the particular company. Other schools kind of leave it up to you to have the knowledge and wherewithal to know what to do to navigate through, which means you can easily be in the shit river.
> Studying at a university is much more than just reading things and memorizing facts, which you would know if you were college educated.
Most of it is attending lectures, and class discussions. You can watch free lectures from the best professors online, and there's many places to discuss the topics with others.
Labs and projects are important enough to attend college for medicine or fine arts, but most programs have few actual hands-on lessons like this. 90% of college majors could be done just as easily online.
Nearly half of in-person college graduates show no improvement in critical thinking skills, despite all the essays. Those skills can be taught just as well through the internet, anything they can say in person is just as valid if it's heard remotely.
> I have heard that a good school will ensure that you have what they call internships at good workplaces. Not to be confused with the medical duty, they are general work placements that get you known at the particular company. Other schools kind of leave it up to you to have the knowledge and wherewithal to know what to do to navigate through, which means you can easily be in the shit river.
Most graduates don't get a job in their field, so this isn't something most students take advantage of. Perhaps because there aren't enough actual internship compared to the number of students going through the programs.
It's also a relic of a time when corporations couldn't find educated staff any other way. More companies are allowing applicants to apply with just a certificate because the high price tag restricts the pool of talent they can tap.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,318,169
@1,318,164 (A)
well about the "in their field", that is par for the course, as most fields of study do not translate directly to jobs in that field with a single degree. the point is that a worthwhile school will prove its worth with automatic streams to economic viability, while others allow people to flounder and rely on their own circumstances and inexperienced abilities and inclinations.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,318,179
@1,318,168 (D)
Yes, and the value in it was mostly checking a box for companies that require a bachelor's. Not every graduate is intelligent or well-rounded, and there are many people without a degree that have more aptitude for the jobs.
If the corporate world didn't require it, saving the money would have been better.