Given the number of news stories describing Kamala Harris as "the first black woman" to be VP/nominated for president (and also the heavy identity politics she runs with), it's a perfectly reasonable thing to ask how she identifies (I picture Trump going "wait I thought she was black but she's also Indian????"). I don't think it's a great question for him to ask, and I would prefer he phrased it differently or didn't ask it but it's not a shocking horrible thing to say/ask, IMO.
I would prefer elections were just run on policy and not race but if Kamala is all excited about racial categorizing, she can't really complain when the other side does it.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,889
@previous (G)
The very basic point is that someone can be both black and indian, just like JD Vance's kids are white and indian. So if she is the first person to do something, she would by definition be the first black person and the first indian person to do that thing.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,899
@1,312,891 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) @1,312,889 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I think he got it mixed up. I remember her as being black first, then Indian (while also still being black). Obviously she was both from the moment of conception but the first time I heard of her she was just described as "black", and I thought "oh okay cool she's black". I did not bother to dig into her family tree or ancestry and only later learned about the Indian thing.
Anonymous G double-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,901
@1,312,891 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Is it better to vote for someone who is neither white or male just on principle? (like affirmative action)
I would be more than happy to vote for a woman of color or just a regular woman who shared at least some of my political positions. I would not vote for one just because she was black or female or whatever. But I would absolutely get behind an American version of Margaret Thatcher or Marine Le Pen for example.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,905
@1,312,899 (G)
Her name is Kamala which is an Indian name. I think its totally fine for an ordinary person to not know that Kamala was Indian in addition to being black or vice versa, but for Donald Trump to need to "look into" if, how, and when she became "became black" or something like that is deranged I'm sorry.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 19 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,912
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
There a lot of people, like me for example, who do not have a wide knowledge of Indian given names and would not immediately recognize "Kamala" as a classic Tamil Indian name. In fact, before her rise to national prominence I had never in my life seen or heard the name Kamala before. I had no idea that name even existed, let alone was an Indian name.
Like I said I think it was at minimum badly worded. I think he should have said something different. I disagree that any form of the question "she used to present herself (or be presented by the media) as X but now it's sometimes Y or XY, what's the deal with that?" is bizarre or deranged.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,952
@1,312,856 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > What an odd and fucked up thing for him to say
No it isn't. Her mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican. Up until recently she leaned more heavily on identifying as Indian. Now that she needs nigger votes more than she needs paki ones, she's saying she's "black". He wanted to know was which claim is correct.
Anyway, who gives a fuck what race she is. I would like to know if she's capable, qualified and has enough experience to run a country.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,956
@1,312,912 (G)
I also had never head the name before but she's been pretty clear about being both Indian (first name) and black (made an awkward joke about smoking weed because she's jamaican). There also hasn't been a ton of media confusion. Here and here two articles from 2016 about her being a black woman. There has never been a conspiracy about hiding her blackness. If Donald Trump chooses to pretend that never happened, wants to invent a new narrative where nobody ever mentioned she was black until 2020, he can do that, but he's going to come across as deranged because he is either lying or extremely confused.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 18 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,972
@1,312,953 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > Baseless claims
Oh please, what part?
> > Her mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican.
True. Look it up. In fact her father is part Irish (hence the name Harris) so she's even less black, which lends more weight to Trump's question.
> > Up until recently she leaned more heavily on identifying as Indian.
A quick Google search (-Trump) reveals just how much campaigning she's done this year to the Indian-American community, calling herself Indian-American when it suits her. She takes great pride in the fact that her name, Kamala, is Sanskrit / Hindi.
Here's an article from 2020 talking about how she "leveraged her Indian heritage": https://www.gatewayhouse.in/kamala-harris-and-the-rise-of-indian-americans/
> > Now that she needs nigger votes more than she needs paki ones, she's saying she's "black".
Also true. She even turns on a fake Southern drawl accent when she thinks it'll be endearing. Here she is being phony (skip past the commentary and observe the clips of her): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNbpJPZzhgw
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,312,992
@1,312,956 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > There has never been a conspiracy about hiding her blackness.
That's why I think Trump had a Mandela effect thing going on and had it backwards.
> There also hasn't been a ton of media confusion. Here and here two articles from 2016 about her being a black woman.
Exactly. This is the kind of coverage I referred to that (in my case anyway) caused me to believe Kamala was black.
Taking a look at the first one you linked, it does actually mention the Indian thing, exactly once, in the fifth paragraph. Compared to "black" which is in the headline, the subheading, the first paragraph, and a few other references to blackness scattered through the article. Which aspect is promoted more heavily?
To me this looks like Kamala primarily or mainly identified as black at that time. In the second link from WaPo, Indian ancestry is mentioned first but she is identified as "African-American":
> Harris, 51, whose mother was born in India and whose father was born in Jamaica, would become the only African American woman in the Senate if she wins the seat.
I don't think Kamala is hiding anything, but I do believe she leans in to whichever side provides more perceived political benefit at the time.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,313,001
@1,312,988 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > What percentage do you think someone needs to have to be considered black? Because historically and currently, it's not much
It doesn't matter what I think (but if you must know personally I don't give a fuck what colour somebody is or what they "identify as"). It matters what her voters think, and her black voters think she's cringey when she tries to pander to them. That's why the (mostly black) people in the audience were laughing when Trump said those things and asked that question. They knew exactly what he was getting at.
> She campaigns as both black and Indian, because she is
She very conveniently ignores the other quarter or half of her heritage when she's playing either side. Come to think of it, why does she ignore the white Irish voters? She's got just as much Irish blood in her as she does African-Jamaican.
> Also Trump code switches all of the time, so spare me on that point
I don't deny it, but we're not talking about him.
> The youtube videos are pointless and driven by your emotions. Thanks
No they aren't, they prove the point I made above, which is that it matters a lot what the people she's trying to impress think of her.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,313,005
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC) > Her voters think she's black and they're going to vote democratic as they normally do. You're very naive about this
Am I? Explain why instead of being offended the black people in that audience laughed out loud when Trump went off about which race card she's choosing to play. Explain why the people in those videos you refused to watch (why, because you're afraid of what you might learn?) are calling her out for being phony.
> they're going to vote democratic as they normally do
I wouldn't be so sure this time. I think you'll find if you dig into this that Trump understands and is respected by his black voters a great deal more than Harris is.
> People who claim to not see race are liars
Interesting. Do you think that because you've grown up in a very closed/racist community and can't conceive of somebody spending their whole lives being around mixed races (and therefore truly not giving a shit what colour people are)?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,313,017
The only reason the republicans are making a deal out of it is because the dems are trying to pass her off as having negro blood and they think that the niggers will vote for her because of that. Great idea but even most niggers aren't that stupid. She isn't going to get more votes using that angle, and just piss more people off. Real niggers don't like mixed race and the black population who are educated and not racist will not vote blue because they are sick and tired of the dem's policies. Biden laid that groundwork a few years back. Trump is going to win this election and there isn't any dem candidate going to change that now. Trump even has the blacks and niggers on his side without having to say anything. I doubt we see another democrat in off for at least another 8 years. Maybe longer thanks to sleepy joe.
Anonymous L replied with this 1 year ago, 31 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,313,021
@previous (A) > No one's talking about her race except Trump and his cultists.
EVERYONE is talking about her race. Even you are. It's all over the internet. The democratic niggers alone have made thousands of videos about it just check out facebook reels and youtube shorts. You are very uninformed about what's going on with this.
Anonymous J replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,313,074
@1,313,017 (L) > Trump even has the blacks and niggers on his side without having to say anything.
Exactly, because he doesn't pander to them. He gets more respect making racist-sounding (to dems) remarks like this than Kamaltoe gets hiring rappers and twerkers at her rallies.
> The people in the audience were laughing and gasping at his audacity. How could you not tell? He looked ridiculous
How could you not tell it was a moment of genuine connection with the audience. Perhaps you were watching a clip where they had turned down their reactions. They were laughing out loud and applauding because he was hitting the nail on the head about the way Kamala behaves.