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boof joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,307,907
@1,307,895 (B)
sure, just pay attention to the popularity of those leaders and parties who seek to undermine checks and balances of power in a (nominal) democracy. even Israel is into it these days
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 17 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,307,910
Fascists are running against people who will not even acknowledge the economic and social problems that exist in society.
When a job doesn't pay the bills and there are no real marriage contracts tying people together in stable family units everything starts to break down.
Fascists offer a return to an imperfect system that does offer paid work and stable social roles. Desperate people who just want that back will tolerate almost anything to see a traditional, tried and tested system return.
The left has never been able to demonstrate their utopian ideals work. Fascists are not asking anyone to experiment with a new system, everyone knows what they get with fascists.
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,307,915
@1,307,910 (F)
listen, there's "the left" that is imagined as some powerful thing in the billionaire-owned media but actually has not much going, and there's the simple believer in the value of checks and balances in a system of governance. while pretending to fight the first thing, we merely discard the second.
Protecting US citizens from mass immigration means wages can't be suppressed, and rents can't be inflated. People of all races benefit from that.
Landlords and employers who want higher rents and lower wages don't benefit. Oddly, those two are usually white people. Why is a white supremacist advocating for policies that hurt them?
Much of what you call fascism is considered the essential social contract by much of the world.
The unnatural and greedy policies of neoliberals who want to increase profits and destroy the family unit is not actually embraced by the working class the left pretends to represent.
> Why is Trump winning with hispanics? > > Protecting US citizens from mass immigration means wages can't be suppressed, and rents can't be inflated. People of all races benefit from that. > > Landlords and employers who want higher rents and lower wages don't benefit. Oddly, those two are usually white people. Why is a white supremacist advocating for policies that hurt them? > > Much of what you call fascism is considered the essential social contract by much of the world. > > The unnatural and greedy policies of neoliberals who want to increase profits and destroy the family unit is not actually embraced by the working class the left pretends to represent.
if you really believe that anything out of his mouth isn't a lie you have to be retarded
its easy to say "trump is winning with hispanics" and then when someone asks for proof you basically go "oh no its this totally legitimate website" or some shady fucking screenshot
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,307,923
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Exactly. The response from the left is to pull their usual "these people are too dumb and ignorant to know what's best for them".
That messaging gets repeated over and over, building resentment from the people, and yet the left never changes its tone and then wonders why they lose.
> I've seen the left lie constantly, and deny basic principles of economics and biology. > > I don't believe Trump, because he says a lot of wacky contradictory thing. I'll take my chances given the alternative.
you are going to have to be more specific than "the left"
boof replied with this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,308,023
@previous (F)
No, that's not it. Isn't that millions of largely ordinary people? and some people only register so they can have influence on who runs in the first place, by voting in primaries.
Where do you place actual wingnuts who want to end capitalism itself, if something as milquetoast boring as registered Democrats is "the left" to you?
> but they vote for politicians who want to end welfare
Citation needed, but I will point out that I have no issue with people who seriously need help with food, electric, gas, etc...
What I do have a problem with, is people, like you, who are capable of going out and finding a job and paying your own way, instead of milking the government for my taxes. This also comes from both sides, Dems and Repubs, this isn't as one sided as the government wants you to believe.
One can have a problem like that, irrespective of if you said about Anon A is even true, I can see how one can have a problem with that. NEVERTHELESS the REAL problem is using that problem to destroy this nice social security thing we got going on here
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 17 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,308,409
@previous (J)
I presume the true fascists were against the lockdowns because of some imagined Boogeyman, mostly because a mass die off event is known to be in the mind of the elite for ease of global management.
@1,308,257 (L)
I don't think you know what the words "decisive", "national", and "action" are in the context of the pandemic and how the last few years played out.
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,308,416
@previous (L)
Im sorry, I live in the US, and there were no actual lockdowns. Do you mean when people had to wear a mask before entering a private business? Several business here banned masks as a point. Or the choice between a COVID vaccination or testing to continue working?
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 31 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,308,464
@1,308,460 (L)
Why are you being so obscure about something as relatively harmless as giving some kind of details about your lockdown experience? It makes me feel like you are only saying things to be vague and mysterious without really wanting to justify your feelings.
I joined into a conversation about the world being charmed by fascism.
I asked an anon what made the lockdowns fascist in nature.
You responded with a statement that didn't answer my question.
I told you of my experience being the opposite and asked exploratory questions relative to my experience
You responded with an insult to my country, so I responded with an insult of your comprehension skills.
I asked for your experience during the lockdowns.
You responded with generalizations
I asked for your experiences with the lockdowns
You affirmed that your experiences were both national and decisive.
What I'm really getting at is, how did your day to day life change prepandemic lockdowns, during lockdowns, and post lockdowns, and what about them would you describe as fascistic?
No, that is the fundamental concept of the ideology; a nation joins together in decisive national action under a strong leader. For one stick is weak, but a thousand sticks bundled is strong.