Topic: tHe EcOnOmY iS gReAt! -Bidet Cultists
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago #118,787
Ignore all the data showing personal disposable income is flat.Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,303,813
oh look a random fucking image with a bunch of random ass numbers that mean dick
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,815
> B-b-but that shows income is up 4%!!!And people working multiple jobs is up 10%.
I remember the first time I worked multiple jobs, and my income went up 50%. Many years ago.
For someone getting a second job just to make ends meet, without seeing any real increase in their income they are going to feel the economy is very bad.
Yet the media continues to try gaslighting the working class, telling them they are too stupid to understand their own situation.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 45 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,816
@1,303,813 (B)
The data comes from the bureau of economic analysis and the bureau of labor statistics in the US.
Disposable income, and # of people working a second job means everything.
The data comes from the bureau of economic analysis and the bureau of labor statistics in the US.
Disposable income, and # of people working a second job means everything.
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,818
@1,303,815 (A)
Wow, look at that dip in people holding multiple jobs in 2020! I wonder what happened in April-May 2020 in the United States 🤔
Wow, look at that dip in people holding multiple jobs in 2020! I wonder what happened in April-May 2020 in the United States 🤔
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,820
@previous (C)
There was a pandemic, yes, thanks.
How is that relevant to the discussion?
The data is indexed from 2017, and the administration/media is not saying "the economy is bad for understandable reasons" they are repeating the lie that the economy is good when the data shows that people are worse off.
There was a pandemic, yes, thanks.
How is that relevant to the discussion?
The data is indexed from 2017, and the administration/media is not saying "the economy is bad for understandable reasons" they are repeating the lie that the economy is good when the data shows that people are worse off.
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 55 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,822
Stock market and corporate profits are the real indicators that "the economy" is doing great on paper. This isn't a Biden thing, it's a problem with our entire culture of worshipping money and the rich, and putting their "personal freedoms" above the interests of all Americans.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,823
@1,303,820 (A)
I agree that it would be great if politicians and pundits could admit that the economy is bad. But it's interesting that you're arguing that "number of multiple job holders" is the be all end all metric of an economy, given the data you've presented
I agree that it would be great if politicians and pundits could admit that the economy is bad. But it's interesting that you're arguing that "number of multiple job holders" is the be all end all metric of an economy, given the data you've presented
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 52 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,824
@1,303,822 (D)
Yes, and if the party that claims to be for the working class does it just the same maybe it's time to recognize that they are playing good cop bad cop and working for the same goals.
Telling regular people that their experience of working a second job just to maintain their income is wrong, and they are too stupid to understand isn't going to be an effective way to win those voters over.
Gaslighting people doesn't work. The Republicans will benefit from the fact that they aren't pushing this BS.
Yes, and if the party that claims to be for the working class does it just the same maybe it's time to recognize that they are playing good cop bad cop and working for the same goals.
Telling regular people that their experience of working a second job just to maintain their income is wrong, and they are too stupid to understand isn't going to be an effective way to win those voters over.
Gaslighting people doesn't work. The Republicans will benefit from the fact that they aren't pushing this BS.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 6 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,825
@1,303,816 (A)
> The data comes from the bureau of economic analysis and the bureau of labor statistics in the US.
>
> Disposable income, and # of people working a second job means everything.
yeah so basically it comes from a random source
> The data comes from the bureau of economic analysis and the bureau of labor statistics in the US.
>
> Disposable income, and # of people working a second job means everything.
yeah so basically it comes from a random source
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 55 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,826
Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,831
@previous (A)
Yeah but they are still just arbitrary numbers that don't mean anything until you read the weird wacky definitions that those agencies use. Anon B has a point
Yeah but they are still just arbitrary numbers that don't mean anything until you read the weird wacky definitions that those agencies use. Anon B has a point
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Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,832
@1,303,824 (A)
> Yes, and if the party that claims to be for the working class does it just the same
You say this, and yes there will always be examples from either side for any given issue, but look again at which side is consistently opposing you and your interests. Which party has consistently for decades voted for and enacted policies to weaken the American worker? Which party has consistently for decades voted for and enacted policies that strengthened the power of corporations to do whatever they please? Which party has consistently for decades stacked the courts with those who also favor the interests of corporations over the American people? To try to "both sides" this as though both sides are equally complicit is ignorant at best, and purposefully deceiving at worst.
> Telling regular people that their experience of working a second job just to maintain their income is wrong, and they are too stupid to understand
Who is saying this? Besides, of course, those claiming that "the other side" is saying it in order to make them look bad.
> Yes, and if the party that claims to be for the working class does it just the same
You say this, and yes there will always be examples from either side for any given issue, but look again at which side is consistently opposing you and your interests. Which party has consistently for decades voted for and enacted policies to weaken the American worker? Which party has consistently for decades voted for and enacted policies that strengthened the power of corporations to do whatever they please? Which party has consistently for decades stacked the courts with those who also favor the interests of corporations over the American people? To try to "both sides" this as though both sides are equally complicit is ignorant at best, and purposefully deceiving at worst.
> Telling regular people that their experience of working a second job just to maintain their income is wrong, and they are too stupid to understand
Who is saying this? Besides, of course, those claiming that "the other side" is saying it in order to make them look bad.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,834
nobody gives a shit about your biden obsession
Anonymous B double-posted this 1 year ago, 26 seconds later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,303,835
@1,303,826 (A)
> These are the industry standard, what other source would you prefer?
anything other than "i pulled this out of my ass"
> These are the industry standard, what other source would you prefer?
anything other than "i pulled this out of my ass"
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But Trump sent mean tweets 😱😱😱
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,304,003
@1,303,823 (C)
I'm not suggesting that one is all that matters on its own, I'm suggesting that if regular people are working more to maintain the same income they are going to think the economy is bad.
If their experience is a bad economy, repeatedly telling them otherwise isn't going to be convincing. Instead a lot of stressed out people are going to be mad they are being lied to.
I'm not suggesting that one is all that matters on its own, I'm suggesting that if regular people are working more to maintain the same income they are going to think the economy is bad.
If their experience is a bad economy, repeatedly telling them otherwise isn't going to be convincing. Instead a lot of stressed out people are going to be mad they are being lied to.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,304,025
@previous (A)
Number of Americans holding multiple jobs is not even an indicator of people "working more". For example, maybe Mcdonald's has been cutting their hours because people aren't buying as many Big Mac Meals as before so they're picking up a shift at Sergio's Burritos, but working the same number of hours.
Number of Americans holding multiple jobs is not even an indicator of people "working more". For example, maybe Mcdonald's has been cutting their hours because people aren't buying as many Big Mac Meals as before so they're picking up a shift at Sergio's Burritos, but working the same number of hours.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 year ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,304,027
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,304,031
@1,304,025 (C)
If that's true then people are spending even more of their time on unpaid commutes, which means this is worse then the charts reveal.
If that's true then people are spending even more of their time on unpaid commutes, which means this is worse then the charts reveal.
