Topic: What makes someone align with a political orientation?
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago#118,574
Culture doesn't explain everything, because people will reject the consensus of the community they were raised in frequently.
There has to be some neurological basis for why people value one thing over another when two values conflict. I.e. truth vs. conformity, security vs. trust. These variances are already documented as built-in instincts in animals with much simpler brains than humans, even if the exact structures responsible are not known.
Arxiv/SciHub/NIH don't turn up anything interesting either. Getting approval or funding for this would be hard for obvious reasons, but there must be some researchers out there in any country that were able to shed some light on this, even if it's an old paper.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,302,375
@previous (B)
Let's agree that this is correct, it still doesn't explain most political issues.
Take two wealthy people, both against losing anything material to support those less well off. Why do they hold different stances on gender, abortion, and even epistemology?
> Let's agree that this is correct, it still doesn't explain most political issues. > > Take two wealthy people, both against losing anything material to support those less well off. Why do they hold different stances on gender, abortion, and even epistemology?
why does everything have to have a scientific answer? why cant it be "people are fucking retarded"?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 46 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,302,390
@previous (C)
Yes there does, causality isn't suspended when it comes to retards. This mindset would have stopped anyone from ever realizing FAS was a specific retardation caused by a specific behavior.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,302,403
Part of the problem is that issues get married to party lines - a simple yes/no vote on financial issues and governing would get way more done than people screeching about guns or abortion.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 47 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,302,406
@previous (D)
If we had that system, it wouldn't change the fact that culture war issues still existed and people were inclined to fall on one side of it or another.
In a society where financial issues are managed well by separating them from culture issues, it's still worth asking what makes someone believe one thing over another. Those cultural issues still matter, even financially, and so it matters how the beliefs were formed.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,302,423
Many biases form at a very early age. A lot of it is to do with upbringing. Unless beliefs within the particular culture are extreme, rejection of that culture happens less frequently than one might think.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 10 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,302,489
The world is a ever changing thing, therefore, I think two common but opposing characteristics in humans can naturally come about. Someone might be a total leftist but then change into a total rightist after some traumatic experience with some immigrant - likewise - someone could change from right to left when they can't afford to keep their child healthy.
Anonymous E replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,302,672
@previous (A) > If we aren't a blank canvas then why does everyone go along with the culture they were born into?
Did I say "everyone"? Why must it be one extreme or the other? The best answer in every nature/nurture type of debate usually turns out to be "it depends".