Topic: People who continuously argue with others online
Erik !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 1 year ago #118,081
Do you think it has made you a smarter person or better prepared to have a debate?
I've been arguing with people onnthe internet for decades. I don't mean minichan.net but like reddit and 4chan for example.
I'm not sure if it's made me smarter or just more obnoxious.
I've been arguing with people onnthe internet for decades. I don't mean minichan.net but like reddit and 4chan for example.
I'm not sure if it's made me smarter or just more obnoxious.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,298,307
More obnoxious. Thanks.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,308
A bit of both - not smarter, but better at arguing and more obnoxious.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,344
I used to argue with people but ultimately you realize it's kind of pointless if the goal is to completely change someone's point of view. The most you can hope for is to change their mind about one minor thing. You can never convince someone who thinks chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream that they should prefer vanilla. You might be able to convince them that chocolate milk doesn't come from brown cows though.
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@1,298,344 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
You're describing a completely subjective matter of taste, of course you can't expect to change something like that.
When a debate is over matters of fact, it's not unreasonable to think you could identify an error in their line of reasoning. That doesn't work because many people would rather stubbornly stick to their preconceived conclusion than reform the justification or change their mind. Why those people like to debate so much is a mystery.
You're describing a completely subjective matter of taste, of course you can't expect to change something like that.
When a debate is over matters of fact, it's not unreasonable to think you could identify an error in their line of reasoning. That doesn't work because many people would rather stubbornly stick to their preconceived conclusion than reform the justification or change their mind. Why those people like to debate so much is a mystery.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,384
@1,298,344 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> You can never convince someone who thinks chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream that they should prefer vanilla. You might be able to convince them that chocolate milk doesn't come from brown cows though.
Is this a dogwhistle?
> You can never convince someone who thinks chocolate ice cream is better than vanilla ice cream that they should prefer vanilla. You might be able to convince them that chocolate milk doesn't come from brown cows though.
Is this a dogwhistle?
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Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 52 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,403
It's good in so far that new information and understanding can come to light, but if you do it wrong, it goes the other way.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,424
you might be a little tarded if you think your going to change the other persons opinion, but learning how to use pathos is really useful irl.
another benefit of argueing with internet people is that your affecting the neutral observers, which is potentially much more useful, but your not likely to ever see any returns on.
another benefit of argueing with internet people is that your affecting the neutral observers, which is potentially much more useful, but your not likely to ever see any returns on.
Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,431
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I feel like these neutral observers can really easily cross into some vague false idol. Like a echo chamber for example or grandiosity.
I feel like these neutral observers can really easily cross into some vague false idol. Like a echo chamber for example or grandiosity.
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Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,447
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It's kind the same way "likes" on Facebook are a false idol. What if most if not all observers are not at all after some truth or consensus? It'd be like worshipping a false idol, you'd think the golden goat or whatever would see your hard efforts and sacrifice, but in the end it was just a statue and you imagined everything else.
It's kind the same way "likes" on Facebook are a false idol. What if most if not all observers are not at all after some truth or consensus? It'd be like worshipping a false idol, you'd think the golden goat or whatever would see your hard efforts and sacrifice, but in the end it was just a statue and you imagined everything else.
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@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Thanks for explaining why you don't think it makes sense and then ask me another question. What do you even mean by me taking stock on religion? Since when did religion enter the discussion? I used false idol as a simple tool, using it to compare something with. All of you need to learn to relax.
Thanks for explaining why you don't think it makes sense and then ask me another question. What do you even mean by me taking stock on religion? Since when did religion enter the discussion? I used false idol as a simple tool, using it to compare something with. All of you need to learn to relax.
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I'm not going to window number two and I'll give you the money once I've gotten my food.
I'm not going to window number two and I'll give you the money once I've gotten my food.
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@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
True but I feel like it can very easily cross into something VAGUE like..... Like a false idol.
True but I feel like it can very easily cross into something VAGUE like..... Like a false idol.
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@1,298,462 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No, no.... Let's try this again.
I (me) feel like these neutral observers, could easily become something vague *pause think,* hmm if only I could describe this vague thing .... Hmmm, it's sorta like a false idol.
The actual false idol *the real concrete* false idol is not the issue here.
No, no.... Let's try this again.
I (me) feel like these neutral observers, could easily become something vague *pause think,* hmm if only I could describe this vague thing .... Hmmm, it's sorta like a false idol.
The actual false idol *the real concrete* false idol is not the issue here.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,474
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Anonymous G replied with this 1 year ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,298,536
@1,298,475 (I)
It's ok you don't understand, I know the false idol neutral observers will understand
It's ok you don't understand, I know the false idol neutral observers will understand