Topic: Is it perhaps time we just nuke Israel off the map?
Anonymous A started this discussion 1 year ago#118,065
That would resolve everything. Those white nationalists were right. The Zionists do control everything. Not sure why these same white nationalists are sleeping with them now, but either way. They were right. The Zionists must be stopped before they target white people next. Time to nuke Israel. Trump? Where are you? We need you?
> Why is the left in bed with Arabs, who are diametrically opposed to all leftist values?
I’m a part of the left and I think we should nuke both of them or just say “fuck it” and begin with nuclear proliferation for everyone, nobody has a nuke until we all have nukes.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,298,294
@previous (boof)
Yes, the self-identified political left are on campuses, posting on twitter, and bitching to anyone around them that Israel is committing genocide by responding to the October 7th attacks. As a group they are constantly avoiding the very simple question "What should have Israel done instead?"
If you were an advisor in the Israeli government, aware of the past support the government gave to Hamas, and the Oct. 7 attack just occurred, what would you suggest? Hindsight is 20-20, but you can't roll back the clock and cut support to Hamas, and if you do nothing then the Iranian-backed militia is going to keep gaining ground and killing thousands more.
What is your answer in that situation? Can you give a clear answer, or is the only thing that comes to your mind some way of dodging the question like "I'd tell you what I WOULDN'T do!".
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 34 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,298,300
@1,298,295 (boof)
That's exactly what it's about, the campus protests are a direct response to Israel's actions in Gaza in response to the October 7th attack.
So what was Israel supposed to do? If you criticize their choice, you should be able to explain what they should have done instead.
Anonymous D replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,298,304
@previous (B)
Of course it is. Send soldiers into a hospital. they ignore the patients and go right into the tunnels below where Hamas is hiding. Instead, they blew up the whole fucking hospital.
Anonymous B replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,298,316
@previous (D)
That will get you shot or blown up when you don't have to. Their HQ was under the hospital. How many soldiers are you losing laying seige to a hospital, and trying to clear it floor by floor? How do you tell the civilians from the Hamas operatives who put their gun under a blanket and played sick on a bed? Hamas already proved they'd hide in a hospital, they won't draw the line at laying on a gurney to ambush the jew who just broke in.
Those tunnels were connected to other buildings. So while their guys outside stall for time, the important commanders and irreplaceable technicians are being scurried away. Hamas choose a new base of operations with minimal losses and the IDF starts making payouts to the families of the lost soldiers. Brilliant strategic move.
The IDF is in a situation where it would make sense to have higher than average civilian casualties, but still manage to be below average in civilian death rate for urban conflicts.
What do you want the IDF to change, specifically? Adopt failing strategies, apologize for ever making Israel, and move west? The IDF is the security force that lets queer people exist. It's protecting a government that holds elections. An anarcho-communist utopia won't spontaneously form, the fundamentalists hiding in hospitals are not a good alternative. It's either the IDF or them.
There are no civilians in Gaza. If they are not shooting guns, they are giving shelter and aid to the ones shooting guns. They celebrate and support Hamas. They are Hamas.