Topic: Openly admitting it
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #116,376
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 25 minutes later[^] [v] #1,285,105
> Activist says
Stopped reading
Stopped reading
boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,116
what, the homosexuality?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,124
@previous (boof)
The Republicans are openly saying they want to end democracy and install Trump as a dictator.
The Republicans are openly saying they want to end democracy and install Trump as a dictator.
boof replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,125
well I don't approve of such a measure. no sir, I don't like it.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 36 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,132
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,151
@previous (B)
Read the article then watch the video of the speech. He says "We're going to end democracy!" and the whole crowd cheers wildly.
Read the article then watch the video of the speech. He says "We're going to end democracy!" and the whole crowd cheers wildly.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 40 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,152
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,153
@previous (D)
Not a wine drinker, but if you read the article and watch the video, it is right there.
Not a wine drinker, but if you read the article and watch the video, it is right there.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,172
Democracy isn't working.
Practically, only a small minority of people can learn statecraft with any competence. Expecting common people to master their own specialization, and then understand complex policy as a side project is not reasonable.
Foreign governments can easily sway elections with propaganda campaigns. People with diagnosed cognitive problems get the same vote as someone with a Ph.D in Economics. Entire elections are swayed by key swing voters who are essentially random. People can vote to redistribute wealth from productive, moral citizens and avoid their own development.
Not a fan of Trump, but it's incredible that this experiment lasted as long as it did.
Practically, only a small minority of people can learn statecraft with any competence. Expecting common people to master their own specialization, and then understand complex policy as a side project is not reasonable.
Foreign governments can easily sway elections with propaganda campaigns. People with diagnosed cognitive problems get the same vote as someone with a Ph.D in Economics. Entire elections are swayed by key swing voters who are essentially random. People can vote to redistribute wealth from productive, moral citizens and avoid their own development.
Not a fan of Trump, but it's incredible that this experiment lasted as long as it did.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,173
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,186
@previous (F)
That's what were talking about. Should everyone vote? That's democracy.
The question to be asking is whether they can do that well. If people vote against their own interests, and the interests of their nation, then something's wrong.
That's what were talking about. Should everyone vote? That's democracy.
The question to be asking is whether they can do that well. If people vote against their own interests, and the interests of their nation, then something's wrong.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,190
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 58 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,197
@previous (F)
The speaker was talking about getting rid of democracy, a system where everyone gets to vote and choose their leaders.
Share the actual argument if I responded to a made up strawman.
The speaker was talking about getting rid of democracy, a system where everyone gets to vote and choose their leaders.
Share the actual argument if I responded to a made up strawman.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,198
@previous (E)
What does the answer to the question you asked suggest? If you think about it honestly and calmly, maybe you'll discover it's not the right question to be asking.
What does the answer to the question you asked suggest? If you think about it honestly and calmly, maybe you'll discover it's not the right question to be asking.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,199
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 16 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,208
@previous (F)
I knew you couldn't answer it.
Every supporter of democracy implicitly believes the uneducated and educated should get the same say. Point it out, and they refuse to state it explicitly. Clearly even supporters of democracy understand there's a problem.
I knew you couldn't answer it.
Every supporter of democracy implicitly believes the uneducated and educated should get the same say. Point it out, and they refuse to state it explicitly. Clearly even supporters of democracy understand there's a problem.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,209
@previous (E)
"What in the world does a shoemaker know about the affairs of state?" - Catherine the Great on democracy
"What in the world does a shoemaker know about the affairs of state?" - Catherine the Great on democracy
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 39 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,210
@1,285,208 (E)
Cool story. Tell me what you believe the answer suggests. I already asked, but you balk at actually saying anything meaningful.
Cool story. Tell me what you believe the answer suggests. I already asked, but you balk at actually saying anything meaningful.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,212
@1,285,209 (A)
Your obsession is showing.
@previous (F)
The answer is you don't let shoemakers decide on policy.
Your obsession is showing.
@previous (F)
The answer is you don't let shoemakers decide on policy.
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 10 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,286
@1,285,226 (F)
And yet you made several posts in which you said nothing.
Plenty of time to post, just no actual ability to defend the idea that shoemakers know how to run a country.
And yet you made several posts in which you said nothing.
Plenty of time to post, just no actual ability to defend the idea that shoemakers know how to run a country.