Topic: Dutch elections draad 4 - The Formation pt. 2: Reckoning
dw !p9hU6ckyqw started this discussion 2 months ago #116,274
A new round of formationings has started and this time led by Kim Putters! He shall talk to all the twenty or so parties to inventarise and whatnot.
Indie the Grate joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,284,135
@OPenis
Upgrade to FPTP.
Upgrade to FPTP.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,137
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 24 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,139
That's crazy
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 months ago, 7 seconds later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,140
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,142
Screenshot of a satanic JPEG of Kim Puttersdw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,484
Timmermans (GL-PvdA) said Wilders, Meloni, et al are Putin's "most useful of useful idiots"
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,547
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Instead of hiring idiots, Putin should hire intelligent people. They'd be a lot more effective.
Instead of hiring idiots, Putin should hire intelligent people. They'd be a lot more effective.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,564
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
idiots are effective at running things badly
the gop comes to mind
maybe he likes it but ud think Russians want a better effective govt
odd
idiots are effective at running things badly
the gop comes to mind
maybe he likes it but ud think Russians want a better effective govt
odd
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,284,567
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,021
Rutte says when told he's known as a Trump whisperer that as a dutch citizen he cannot vote in the United States. So he has to dance with whoever is on the dance floor
(Edited 26 minutes later.)
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 24 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,029
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Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 21 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,034
Why can your country not form a government? Even Afghanistan managed it
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,036
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 2 months ago, 4 days later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,285,920
Update - parlement has returned from their well deserved holiday and new talks have started
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) triple-posted this 2 months ago, 1 day later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,143
Wilders is threatening with a labour led cabinet
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 months ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,159
Some very, very nice progress here... I think we're well on our way to a formation...
It must not be rushed, of course. Rushed coalitions are how we get trouble. What the Dutch people want is a meticulously crafted coalition that is the best it can be.
It must not be rushed, of course. Rushed coalitions are how we get trouble. What the Dutch people want is a meticulously crafted coalition that is the best it can be.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 2 months ago, 4 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,188
@previous (G)
Luckily having a government is important for any reason, so they can just keep taking their time.
Luckily having a government is important for any reason, so they can just keep taking their time.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 months ago, 52 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,198
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 3 days later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,931
Update - the formation has now taken 103 days, which is the average time to form a majority. Thanks.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) triple-posted this 1 month ago, 6 days later, 2 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,824
Update - No updates
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) quadruple-posted this 1 month ago, 2 days later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,288,113
Update - Wilders will not become PM!!
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 1 month ago, 54 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,288,114
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 11 hours later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,288,172
Wilders says it's unfair he's not becoming pm
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 2 weeks later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,466
Nearly fisticuffs in parlement!
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 54 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,470
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I think that you should get a strong man to lock all these politicians in a room and deny them food and water until they reach an agreement.
I think that you should get a strong man to lock all these politicians in a room and deny them food and water until they reach an agreement.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 20 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,473
@previous (H)
The fisticuffs were unrelated to the formation! They are related to alleged Russian funding of Forum voor Democratie
The fisticuffs were unrelated to the formation! They are related to alleged Russian funding of Forum voor Democratie
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,474
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,475
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,476
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
You should get a strong man to put the fundee and the funder-haters in a room and deny them food and water until they come to an agreement about how taking money from Russia is good, actually.
You should get a strong man to put the fundee and the funder-haters in a room and deny them food and water until they come to an agreement about how taking money from Russia is good, actually.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,485
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,487
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 37 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,491
@previous (H)
There would also be unity in cause if they agreed on how taking money from Russia is bad actually
There would also be unity in cause if they agreed on how taking money from Russia is bad actually
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 1 month ago, 12 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,492
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,493
@1,290,491 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I don't see how it is. You are first of all removing wealth from Russia which could otherwise be spent on their war, and secondly that money can be spent on the public good.
I don't see how it is. You are first of all removing wealth from Russia which could otherwise be spent on their war, and secondly that money can be spent on the public good.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 17 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,579
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 1 month ago, 16 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,580
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 10 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,695
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 15 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,785
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,805
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I think that anybody would eventually agree that it is good, if you hired a strong man to lock them in a room and deny them food and water until they did.
I think that anybody would eventually agree that it is good, if you hired a strong man to lock them in a room and deny them food and water until they did.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,806
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,809
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I don't see why not. If he's strong enough to gaol the politicians, he surely must be strong enough to lead the nation.
I don't see why not. If he's strong enough to gaol the politicians, he surely must be strong enough to lead the nation.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,820
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 38 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,824
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,838
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,966
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,968
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 31 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,972
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,290,975
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Could you, perchance, expand upon this? Or are you going to keep forcing me to drag it out from you?
Could you, perchance, expand upon this? Or are you going to keep forcing me to drag it out from you?
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 6 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,009
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,012
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Ah, so you aren't going to actually formulate an opinion. You are instead going to make me reply to you over and over again, asking clarifying questions.
Ah, so you aren't going to actually formulate an opinion. You are instead going to make me reply to you over and over again, asking clarifying questions.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 10 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,038
Anonymous H replied with this 1 month ago, 27 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,039
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 month ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,041
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,052
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I think that they should hire a strong man to lock Baudet and Klaver in a room and deny them sustenance until they make up.
I think that they should hire a strong man to lock Baudet and Klaver in a room and deny them sustenance until they make up.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,085
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,102
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Not at all, the lack of food and water will provide a strong motivation for these squabbling politicians to find common cause.
Not at all, the lack of food and water will provide a strong motivation for these squabbling politicians to find common cause.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 35 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,109
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 6 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,110
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Any of it. Unless you mean the two politicians aren't quibbling, in which case that part.
Any of it. Unless you mean the two politicians aren't quibbling, in which case that part.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 49 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,114
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,115
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I don't think so, although if you do then I welcome you to share your views on why you think so.
I don't think so, although if you do then I welcome you to share your views on why you think so.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,119
@previous (H)
I was hoping for your thoughts on why it's weird. Was not expecting you not to realise why it's odd!
I was hoping for your thoughts on why it's weird. Was not expecting you not to realise why it's odd!
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,123
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,131
@previous (H)
You don't think it's weird to lock politicians in a room until they agree that it's best to take money in exchange for taking Russian-favourable stances? That's so odd!
You don't think it's weird to lock politicians in a room until they agree that it's best to take money in exchange for taking Russian-favourable stances? That's so odd!
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,148
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
> in exchange for taking Russian-favourable stances
You are hallucinating again. I think that you are spending too much time on computers.
> in exchange for taking Russian-favourable stances
You are hallucinating again. I think that you are spending too much time on computers.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 4 weeks ago, 32 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,149
hallucinate...deeze nuts motherfucker!!!
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 18 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,155
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 4 weeks ago, 17 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,156
Well threat of kerfuffle
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,159
@1,291,155 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Nevertheless, they should take the money. The money can be spent on Dutchish interests, and it also removes it from Russian hands.
Nevertheless, they should take the money. The money can be spent on Dutchish interests, and it also removes it from Russian hands.
Anonymous I replied with this 4 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,164
i would vote for whomevers name sounds the most ridiculous, pretty good political stance imo
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 6 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,193
Anonymous H replied with this 4 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,207
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Not at all, I believe in the old adage that "Money has no smell". In other words, regardless of the origin of the money, it is beneficial to obtain it.
Not at all, I believe in the old adage that "Money has no smell". In other words, regardless of the origin of the money, it is beneficial to obtain it.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 4 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,219
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,232
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
To the good people of Holland, who will have the money spent on maintaining their roads and funding their leisure centers.
To the good people of Holland, who will have the money spent on maintaining their roads and funding their leisure centers.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 12 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,304
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,314
Plus what of the compensation
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,350
@1,291,304 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
This depends on the value of the bribe!
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I don't see any reason to compensate Russia.
This depends on the value of the bribe!
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I don't see any reason to compensate Russia.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 33 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,352
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,353
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,356
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 10 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,403
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
On one hand, the good people of Holland get lavish amounts of money spent towards their bills. On the other hand, nobody gives Russia anything for it and they eventually stop trying. All in all, the thing that makes the most sense is to accept Russian money and carry on doing what you would do anyway. And hire a strong man to starve the politicians to death.
On one hand, the good people of Holland get lavish amounts of money spent towards their bills. On the other hand, nobody gives Russia anything for it and they eventually stop trying. All in all, the thing that makes the most sense is to accept Russian money and carry on doing what you would do anyway. And hire a strong man to starve the politicians to death.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 20 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,405
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,536
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
So, either Dutchmen get free money, or Russia stops trying to bribe them. There is no loss.
So, either Dutchmen get free money, or Russia stops trying to bribe them. There is no loss.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 27 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,538
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 53 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,551
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
The worst thing is to refuse the money, and also refuse the Russians. Because then you get nothing.
The worst thing is to refuse the money, and also refuse the Russians. Because then you get nothing.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,552
Anonymous H replied with this 3 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,291,563
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Tell them to say to the bribery "I'll see what I can do", then wink. The russian will think something will be done but actually you've just pulled a trick.
Tell them to say to the bribery "I'll see what I can do", then wink. The russian will think something will be done but actually you've just pulled a trick.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 week later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,595
This week they are talking about the asylum crisis
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,600
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
They should just push them back into the sea and let Davy Jones decide their fate.
They should just push them back into the sea and let Davy Jones decide their fate.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,614
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,656
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Not according to the law of the jungle, which is the only law that really matters.
Not according to the law of the jungle, which is the only law that really matters.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,687
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 8 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,707
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 39 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,714
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,719
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
False law, weak law, artificial law, a law easily ignored or circumvented.
False law, weak law, artificial law, a law easily ignored or circumvented.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 12 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,720
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 15 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,776
Update: Wilders has retweeted someone calling for new elections
Anonymous H replied with this 2 weeks ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,784
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Call new elections tomorrow, send everyone a QR code wristband in the mail and they scan it to vote online.
Call new elections tomorrow, send everyone a QR code wristband in the mail and they scan it to vote online.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,830
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@previous (J)
Because we live in the future, and you can't use a unique URL as a funky fashion accessory.
Because we live in the future, and you can't use a unique URL as a funky fashion accessory.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 2 weeks ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,292,899
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 1 week ago, 2 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,293,190
Timmermans is getting antsy as we enter week 22
Anonymous H replied with this 1 week ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,293,192
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw (OP) replied with this 6 days ago, 5 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,293,912
Dieuwertje Blok's nose is getting amputated