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Topic: Houston traffic is fucking ridiculous lol

Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #116,003

City streets are ok, but the highway traffic, Christ. The speed limit is 60, you are going 80, and assholes are tailgating you because they want to go 110.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 18 minutes later[^] [v] #1,281,630

No matter the speed limit, or even the speed that you drive, there's always someone that needs to go at least 20 faster still. And they're angry about it.

All nations should adopt an autobahn style. No limits, but assign fault automatically in accidents for anyone going over some reasonably high amount. It'll never happen though because it's incompatible with the for-profit police system and worse still it gives police fewer excuses to sit around on the side of the road instead of dealing with real problems.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,635

the thing is u build them tighter and designed so that ppl feel like 80 is too much, otherwise theyll want to go that fast
our engineers are far too stupid to do that tho, maybe now theyll try it

Erik !saAqdaazn2 joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,636

Lucky you not in London where the speed limit is 30 but you go 10 because there are so many damn cars on the road.

Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 58 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,637

also state law says u move right when someone wants to pass, do u not know that

@1,281,630 (B)
stupid republicans dont give funding and dont raise enough taxes to fund police so how else are they supposed to raise money?
hilarious that the ones who actually defund police are right wingers cause they dont give budgets.

even tho theres tons of oil revenue and big business to tax.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,638

@previous (C)
lol on a Houston highway with 15 lanes, there is no "right". All lanes are completely full.

boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 41 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,640

they should build destinations where people already live so they don't have to fucking travel there so much

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,641

The strangest thing is that if you add more and bigger roads, it just creates more cars using the roads.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,642

@1,281,637 (C)
Republicans are definitely funding the police and giving them military-grade equipment. That's been happening for 30 years now and why every two-bit town has their own SWAT teams and looks more like a branch of the Marines than a civilian police force.
Democrats are saying defund the police and are not proposing any coherent policy to fix the underlying issues. So what's the result of that going to be? Police departments putting out more traffic cops to maintain funding? More asset forfeiture? Every year more funds are taken by police departments through asset forfeiture than are lost due to robbery in the US. But, no, let's just cut their funding and pretend like we aren't going to make these problems worse.

Both sides of these "solutions" suck ass.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,643

@previous (B)
ACAB. Eliminate all police.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,648

@previous (A)
> Eliminate all police.
And then what? Meet the new boss, same as the old one.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,649

@previous (B)
Anarchical cooperation.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,650

@previous (A)
How much of the population do you think would need to be armed for that to work out long term? Not a trick question or anything. Genuinely curious what you think.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,651

@previous (B)
None. People who broke the rules of the community would be exiled. The entire community would take part in this exile, forcing the offender to leave. It worked for Greece.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,652

@previous (A)
Except all throughout history it tends to be those with the most or best weapons make the rules. Not really sure what people cooperating and holding hands has anything to do with what happens when a gun is pointed to their heads.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,655

@previous (B)
One chieftain with a weapon is no match for the entire community taking him on.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,656

@previous (A)
Weapons technology has progressed several thousand years and has become orders of magnitudes more lethal than what any chieftain would've ever dreamed of.

boof replied with this 2 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,662

@1,281,642 (B)
when you say "democrats" do you mean that is the official party platform? because that does not sound right

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,663

@previous (boof)
Yes, the official platform.

dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,664

@1,281,636 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
yeah I don't get it
Op is complaining about traffic while being able to drive the speed limit??

dw !p9hU6ckyqw double-posted this 2 years ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,665

@1,281,630 (B)
the vast majority of autobahns have speed limits

boof replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,666

@1,281,663 (B)

> Yes, the official platform.

Well, you are clearly full of shit so I shan't engage with you further

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,668

@1,281,665 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
> Much of the system has no speed limit for some classes of vehicles.[1] However, limits are posted and enforced in areas that are urbanised, substandard, accident-prone, or under construction. On speed-unrestricted stretches, an advisory speed limit (Richtgeschwindigkeit) of 130 kilometres per hour (81 mph) applies.[2] While driving faster is not illegal in the absence of a speed limit, it can cause an increased liability in the case of a collision (which mandatory auto insurance has to cover); courts have ruled that an "ideal driver" who is exempt from absolute liability for "inevitable" tort under the law would not exceed the advisory speed limit.
>
> A 2017 report by the Federal Road Research Institute reported that in 2015, 70.4% of the Autobahn network had only the advisory speed limit, 6.2% had temporary speed limits due to weather or traffic conditions, and 23.4% had permanent speed limits.[3]

Got that?

kys

Anonymous B double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,669

@1,281,666 (boof)
Not your personal research assistant. If that means you won't "engage" then it's no loss of mine.

Anonymous B triple-posted this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,670

@1,281,664 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
He may've been referring to traffic in the sense of the behaviour of people on the road, not congestion.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,671

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxykI30fS54

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,676

@1,281,637 (C)
> stupid republicans dont give funding and dont raise enough taxes to fund police

The stupid democrats defunded the police. What are you rambling on about mate?

dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 2 years ago, 39 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,679

@1,281,668 (B)
lol try actually driving in germany. there will be speed limits every few km

Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,684

@OP
People from small towns are often overwhelmed driving in the big city (4th largest!).

I would suggest practicing in smaller cities before trying to drive in big ones.

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 39 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,687

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
How many interchanges does it have? Poor planning innit?

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,688

@previous (K)
It wasn't "planned" as such, it just got built up as needed.

Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,689

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Reactive rather than proactive

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,690

@previous (K)
To be fair it would have been pretty ridiculous for people 50 or 100 years ago to project and plan the city's growth.

There are some individual planned communities (eg The Woodlands) but it's just an easy going build what you want to build where you want to build it kind of town.

Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,691

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's still planned, just poorly compared to some other planned cities. I mean look at this, this isn't even the worst example but maybe the most pointless. At this point just put a signaled intersection 😂 Wouldn't be that big a deal

(Edited 42 seconds later.)

Anonymous K double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,692

😂

Anonymous K triple-posted this 2 years ago, 42 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,694

AI could do better than this one

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 16 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,695

I will say the comprehensive system of feeder roads is something that should be copied in other metros.

(Texas Monthly article explaining the concept for non-Houstonians: https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-texan/talk-like-texan-story-behind-feeder-road/)

Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,697

@1,281,691 (K)
It allows you to easily change direction without stopping. There are signs indicating which exits go where.

Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,698

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I understand what they are for. Houston has so many and such monstrous interchanges. It's not normal.

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 23 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,699

@previous (K)
Which US city of roughly comparable size would you say is properly planned?

Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,700

@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
None, but many cities are more economic with land and resources when designing their infrastructure. Check out these bad boys, they're not the absolute most economical interchange, but it's an improvement over what Houston has done and they can handle what the 4th biggest has to throw at them plus it's just a three phase signal. Three phases, that's not a big deal

(Edited 3 minutes later.)

Anonymous K double-posted this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,701

@previous (K)
I should also note you can do sidewalks with these. Very nice.

Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 23 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,704

@1,281,700 (K)
Which city are those in?

Also we have no need to be economical with our land because God has blessed us with unlimited perfectly flat land.

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,708

@1,281,630 (B)
Biden has been funding the police at an advanced rate since he took office, with 37 billion last year alone. "Democrats" do not want to defund the police. they are your guys

Anonymous L double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,709

@1,281,649 (A)

> Anarchical cooperation.

so dumb
I have seen better discussions in the New York Post comment section

Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 47 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,712

@previous (L)
If you ever see a word prefixed with "Anarcho-" the following part of the word will cancel out the anarchy part.

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 22 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,715

@1,281,679 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Try not being a massive faggot first. >70% of the road has no enforced speed limits.

I'm expecting your letter of resignation on my desk by Monday. Goodbye.

Anonymous B double-posted this 2 years ago, 23 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,716

@1,281,708 (L)
lol no he hasn't.

dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 2 years ago, 8 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,792

@1,281,715 (B)
right mixed in with 30% that does have a limit

dw !p9hU6ckyqw double-posted this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,793

and also they have insane stau

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 20 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,794

@1,281,792 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Right, as you said, 30%, the "vast majority".

dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,796

@previous (B)
name an autobahn that doesn't have a speed limit on it somewhere bitte

Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,281,797

@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy
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