Topic: Is giving North Korea tourism money unethical?
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #115,656
Thoughts.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,277,660
Why would it be?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,661
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Because Kim keeps it all for his war machine and his extravagant lifestyle while the people starve and are treated horribly.
Because Kim keeps it all for his war machine and his extravagant lifestyle while the people starve and are treated horribly.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,664
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 12 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,665
@1,277,661 (C)
Assuming that were true (it logically can't be), how would not giving tourist money change that situation?
Assuming that were true (it logically can't be), how would not giving tourist money change that situation?
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,666
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
It is true. 100%. And by giving tourist money, you are helping Kim's evil regime, not people who need help.
It is true. 100%. And by giving tourist money, you are helping Kim's evil regime, not people who need help.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 49 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,667
@1,277,664 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Because it could be rewarding a dictator. I'd love to visit
The US is a much bigger threat to world peace than North Korea.
And I've been to North Korea, it's...not a place I recommend visiting, only because you don't really see the country. You see a sanitised vision of it. Getting there is a hassle even for me (Russian papers), for you I don't think the experience would justify all the expense of getting there. Let me know if you're serious though, I might be able to help you a little.
> Because it could be rewarding a dictator. I'd love to visit
The US is a much bigger threat to world peace than North Korea.
And I've been to North Korea, it's...not a place I recommend visiting, only because you don't really see the country. You see a sanitised vision of it. Getting there is a hassle even for me (Russian papers), for you I don't think the experience would justify all the expense of getting there. Let me know if you're serious though, I might be able to help you a little.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 years ago, 35 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,668
@1,277,666 (C)
> It is true. 100%. And by giving tourist money, you are helping Kim's evil regime, not people who need help.
Shouldn't you be fighting vampires in Norilsk?
> It is true. 100%. And by giving tourist money, you are helping Kim's evil regime, not people who need help.
Shouldn't you be fighting vampires in Norilsk?
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 51 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,669
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 19 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,670
Maybe? You could make the argument that more tourism, more trade, more engagement could very well contribute to opening up the country. It's almost a bit of a Cold War mentality that shutting off and utterly neglecting a country will somehow produce radical change if only you keep it going long enough.
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 24 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,671
@1,277,669 (C)
Beats me but you've taken it this far, you may as well see it through to the denouement.
Beats me but you've taken it this far, you may as well see it through to the denouement.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,672
You're giving money straight to a mad dictator so ... yes
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,677
@1,277,667 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Where do you recommend visiting if you don't care about the beach?
Where do you recommend visiting if you don't care about the beach?
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,678
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 1 second later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,679
@1,277,677 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Where do you recommend visiting if you don't care about the beach?
You mean in North Korea, or in the world?
> Where do you recommend visiting if you don't care about the beach?
You mean in North Korea, or in the world?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc double-posted this 2 years ago, 40 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,680
@1,277,678 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
> If you do visit, bring me back a poster.
Damn that dude was a fucking moron.
> If you do visit, bring me back a poster.
Damn that dude was a fucking moron.
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,681
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 years ago, 19 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,682
@1,277,680 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
Just entering the restricted staff-only part of the hotel was absolutely moronic. I've done some daft things while drunk but the guy was an absolute retard.
Surely Pyongyang have gift shops if you really want a bloody poster that badly.
Just entering the restricted staff-only part of the hotel was absolutely moronic. I've done some daft things while drunk but the guy was an absolute retard.
Surely Pyongyang have gift shops if you really want a bloody poster that badly.
tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,683
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,684
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,686
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,690
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
+1 for Rome. I visited with KL and a week was nowhere near enough. The Ostia Antica in particular was astounding. We didn't manage to fit much into our time in Florence but the Uffizi Gallery was somewhere I really hope to return when I visit with my friend later this year (or next).
(Nothing compared to Salisbury Cathedral, mind.)
+1 for Rome. I visited with KL and a week was nowhere near enough. The Ostia Antica in particular was astounding. We didn't manage to fit much into our time in Florence but the Uffizi Gallery was somewhere I really hope to return when I visit with my friend later this year (or next).
(Nothing compared to Salisbury Cathedral, mind.)
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 48 seconds later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,691
@1,277,670 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
> You could make the argument that more tourism, more trade, more engagement could very well contribute to opening up the country.
You really can't.
> You could make the argument that more tourism, more trade, more engagement could very well contribute to opening up the country.
You really can't.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,692
Anonymous G replied with this 2 years ago, 34 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,694
@1,277,690 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
> We didn't manage to fit much into our time in Florence
Surprised you guys left the hotel at all :)
> We didn't manage to fit much into our time in Florence
Surprised you guys left the hotel at all :)
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,695
@previous (G)
There's nothing gay about passionate, gay anal sex with your close friend of the same sex. Thanks.
There's nothing gay about passionate, gay anal sex with your close friend of the same sex. Thanks.
!faggot replied with this 2 years ago, 58 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,699
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,701
@1,277,668 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> > It is true. 100%. And by giving tourist money, you are helping Kim's evil regime, not people who need help.
>
> Shouldn't you be fighting vampires in Norilsk?
Apparently Matt quit the board in disgrace. That's why you haven't seen any Throckmorton updates in Russia.
> > It is true. 100%. And by giving tourist money, you are helping Kim's evil regime, not people who need help.
>
> Shouldn't you be fighting vampires in Norilsk?
Apparently Matt quit the board in disgrace. That's why you haven't seen any Throckmorton updates in Russia.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,703
@1,277,692 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
> He's arrived, everyone! Prepare for "Yes it is. No it isn't. No they don't."
haha gottem
> He's arrived, everyone! Prepare for "Yes it is. No it isn't. No they don't."
haha gottem
Anonymous G replied with this 2 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,708
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,732
yeah let's attack blockade and embargo this country and then blame them for being poor and hating us. backwards commies... don't know what freedom is..