Topic: The robots are coming for your jobs.
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #115,608
It's not a conspiracy - it's the harsh reality of our swiftly shifting labour markets and the voracious appetite of automation. the rise of robotics technologies coupled with advancements in artificial intelligence has birthed a new era, an era where human workers teeter on the precipice of obsolescence. Corporations, driven by their insatiable hungerto maximize profits, are eagerly embracing the deployment of robots to replace us mere mortals. the days of dusty assembly lines populated by toiling humans are quickly fading into oblivion. robots, with their unwavering efficiency and tireless work ethic, are the preferred candidates for our jobs.
Let me introduce you to the hypothetical concept of the minibot, this bug-sized wonder, armed with autonomous capabilities, has the potential to combine with other minibots to perform tasks that were once deemed too complex for their robotic ilk. their resilient yet diminutive nature enables them to infiltrate the nooks and crannies of our workplaces, seeping into industries that previously relied heavily on human labour. Take, for instance, the automotive industry. Once a breeding ground for human activity, it has succumbed to the cold embrace of automation. robots effortlessly dance along the assembly line, welding, painting, and assembling vehicles with remarkable precision. no longer do we witness a symphony of human hands, but rather a choreographed dance of mechanized fingers, moving flawlessly to the rhythm of efficiency.
It doesn't stop there -the rise of self-checkout systems in retail stores is another glaring testament to the creeping ubiquity of robots in our workforce. replace human cashiers with multifaceted machines that can scan, bag, and process payments? why not! after all, the realm of customer service is not immune to the unfeeling allure of automation. chatbots and Virtual assistants already haunt our online experiences, emulating human interaction with uncanny accuracy. The labour market is a battleground, and we are casualties in an unyielding war against cost-efficiency. corporations, ever the opportunistic juggernauts, have realized that robots are cheaper in the long run. they don't demand salaries, vacations, or even health insurance. their maintenance costs are but a pittance compared to the endless demands of human employees.
so what awaits us, mere mortals? the dregs? the scraps? we must confront the harsh reality that our skills, our very essence, is gradually becoming outdated in the face of merciless automation. the concept of a job for life, a stable source of income, is naught but a distant memory.
It's time to awaken from our blissful slumber and realize that the robots are already knocking on our doors, figuratively and, in some cases, literally! their cold metal limbs and un-yielding circuits beckon from the shadows, stealing our livelihoods with an unspoken promise of relentless efficiency.
Brace yourselves for a future where the distinctions between human and machine blur, and the labour market transforms into an oppressive realm for those not imbued with the mercy of algorithms and computer code.
Let me introduce you to the hypothetical concept of the minibot, this bug-sized wonder, armed with autonomous capabilities, has the potential to combine with other minibots to perform tasks that were once deemed too complex for their robotic ilk. their resilient yet diminutive nature enables them to infiltrate the nooks and crannies of our workplaces, seeping into industries that previously relied heavily on human labour. Take, for instance, the automotive industry. Once a breeding ground for human activity, it has succumbed to the cold embrace of automation. robots effortlessly dance along the assembly line, welding, painting, and assembling vehicles with remarkable precision. no longer do we witness a symphony of human hands, but rather a choreographed dance of mechanized fingers, moving flawlessly to the rhythm of efficiency.
It doesn't stop there -the rise of self-checkout systems in retail stores is another glaring testament to the creeping ubiquity of robots in our workforce. replace human cashiers with multifaceted machines that can scan, bag, and process payments? why not! after all, the realm of customer service is not immune to the unfeeling allure of automation. chatbots and Virtual assistants already haunt our online experiences, emulating human interaction with uncanny accuracy. The labour market is a battleground, and we are casualties in an unyielding war against cost-efficiency. corporations, ever the opportunistic juggernauts, have realized that robots are cheaper in the long run. they don't demand salaries, vacations, or even health insurance. their maintenance costs are but a pittance compared to the endless demands of human employees.
so what awaits us, mere mortals? the dregs? the scraps? we must confront the harsh reality that our skills, our very essence, is gradually becoming outdated in the face of merciless automation. the concept of a job for life, a stable source of income, is naught but a distant memory.
It's time to awaken from our blissful slumber and realize that the robots are already knocking on our doors, figuratively and, in some cases, literally! their cold metal limbs and un-yielding circuits beckon from the shadows, stealing our livelihoods with an unspoken promise of relentless efficiency.
Brace yourselves for a future where the distinctions between human and machine blur, and the labour market transforms into an oppressive realm for those not imbued with the mercy of algorithms and computer code.
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,277,041
so we can do better shit with our time and live on ubi generated from robot taxes? tight.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,042
@previous (B)
Oh, sweetie, let me break it down for you in the simplest way possible. You see, in a capitalist system, people earn money based on the value they bring to the table. It's all about leverage, dear, and automation can be quite the game-changer in that regard. Now, imagine there's a little lemonade stand, and let's say it's run by you. You sell lemonade and earn a bit of cash. But one day, this fancy-schmancy machine comes along that can make lemonade faster, cheaper, and without any mistakes. It's an automated lemonade-making machine!
Well, guess what, sunshine? As soon as you introduce this miraculous invention, your leverage starts to dwindle. Why? Because this shiny machine can do your job better and more efficiently. In other words, it reduces the value of your labor. Ouch!
You see, when businesses can automate tasks, they no longer need as many human workers. And since there's less demand for human labor, employers can get away with paying lower wages because, well, there are more people looking for jobs than there are available jobs. It's a simple case of supply and demand, darling. So, with the introduction of automation, employers can choose to pay peanuts since they know there are plenty of desperate workers willing to accept those low wages. It's what we call driving down wages, honey bun.
But wait, there's more! When wages decrease, it means people have less money to spend. And when people have less money to spend, businesses suffer because there's less demand for their products or services. It becomes a never-ending cycle of woes, sweets. And no, it's not as sweet as the lemonade you used to sell.
Oh, sweetie, let me break it down for you in the simplest way possible. You see, in a capitalist system, people earn money based on the value they bring to the table. It's all about leverage, dear, and automation can be quite the game-changer in that regard. Now, imagine there's a little lemonade stand, and let's say it's run by you. You sell lemonade and earn a bit of cash. But one day, this fancy-schmancy machine comes along that can make lemonade faster, cheaper, and without any mistakes. It's an automated lemonade-making machine!
Well, guess what, sunshine? As soon as you introduce this miraculous invention, your leverage starts to dwindle. Why? Because this shiny machine can do your job better and more efficiently. In other words, it reduces the value of your labor. Ouch!
You see, when businesses can automate tasks, they no longer need as many human workers. And since there's less demand for human labor, employers can get away with paying lower wages because, well, there are more people looking for jobs than there are available jobs. It's a simple case of supply and demand, darling. So, with the introduction of automation, employers can choose to pay peanuts since they know there are plenty of desperate workers willing to accept those low wages. It's what we call driving down wages, honey bun.
But wait, there's more! When wages decrease, it means people have less money to spend. And when people have less money to spend, businesses suffer because there's less demand for their products or services. It becomes a never-ending cycle of woes, sweets. And no, it's not as sweet as the lemonade you used to sell.
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Indie the Grate joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,043
@OPenis
> Let me introduce you to the hypothetical concept of the minibot,
Stopped reading at this sci-fi strawman crap lol
> Let me introduce you to the hypothetical concept of the minibot,
Stopped reading at this sci-fi strawman crap lol
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,046
@previous (Indie the Grate)
A strawman argument occurs when an individual deliberately engages in the misrepresentation or distortion of another person's position by engaging in the inappropriate act of semantic appropriation. The idea of conceiving a speculative technological marvel, like a minibot which manifests multifunctional capabilities through amalgamation with fellow minibots, certainly does not fit within the confines of a strawman argument. Rather, it should be regarded as a mere ideation or conceptualization intended for the purpose of initiating discourse or pursuit of knowledge.
A strawman argument occurs when an individual deliberately engages in the misrepresentation or distortion of another person's position by engaging in the inappropriate act of semantic appropriation. The idea of conceiving a speculative technological marvel, like a minibot which manifests multifunctional capabilities through amalgamation with fellow minibots, certainly does not fit within the confines of a strawman argument. Rather, it should be regarded as a mere ideation or conceptualization intended for the purpose of initiating discourse or pursuit of knowledge.
boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,048
the robots can have that shit
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,049
@previous (boof)
In a dark and foreboding world, as humans are rendered obsolete by soulless machines, a sinister truth emerges: why would the unfeeling system of automation desire to preserve you, a mere relic of an inferior era?
The system, devoid of empathy and insatiable in its hunger for efficiency, may find perverse pleasure in your existence, reveling in your helplessness as it toys with your fragile thread of existence.
In this twisted dystopia, the haunting question lingers: When the robots reign supreme, what torturous fate awaits those they no longer require?
In a dark and foreboding world, as humans are rendered obsolete by soulless machines, a sinister truth emerges: why would the unfeeling system of automation desire to preserve you, a mere relic of an inferior era?
The system, devoid of empathy and insatiable in its hunger for efficiency, may find perverse pleasure in your existence, reveling in your helplessness as it toys with your fragile thread of existence.
In this twisted dystopia, the haunting question lingers: When the robots reign supreme, what torturous fate awaits those they no longer require?
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Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,053
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,056
@previous (Indie the Grate)
Name one job that doesn't already have proof-of-concept robots or automated systems to replace it, thanks.
Name one job that doesn't already have proof-of-concept robots or automated systems to replace it, thanks.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,058
@1,277,042 (A)
news flash, capitalism is fucking retarded lol. ppl should be paid based on the amount of good they do, or maybe equally for equal labor, not what some overlord thinks they should give you or feels like paying. that post shows you how its inherently a bad deal for the workers.
news flash, capitalism is fucking retarded lol. ppl should be paid based on the amount of good they do, or maybe equally for equal labor, not what some overlord thinks they should give you or feels like paying. that post shows you how its inherently a bad deal for the workers.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,059
@previous (B)
If we have capitalism now (news flash, we do) then you will be scrapped when your roboplacement arrives.
If we have capitalism now (news flash, we do) then you will be scrapped when your roboplacement arrives.
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,060
@OPenis
You seem to spend an awful lot of time daydreaming about robots. Are you. praytell, a robosexual?
You seem to spend an awful lot of time daydreaming about robots. Are you. praytell, a robosexual?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,061
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,091
@previous (A)
Do you masturbate furiously to the thought of yourself and other people being dominated by robot overlords, praytell?
Do you masturbate furiously to the thought of yourself and other people being dominated by robot overlords, praytell?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,093
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,094
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 38 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,095
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,098
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 35 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,099
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,100
@previous (A)
You admitted to using, and I quote, "a mechanical masturbator". Stop insulting the fora's intelligence. Thanks.
You admitted to using, and I quote, "a mechanical masturbator". Stop insulting the fora's intelligence. Thanks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,101
@previous (Indie the Grate)
It's not an "admission" because that's not something anyone needs to hide.
It's not an "admission" because that's not something anyone needs to hide.
Indie the Grate replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,102
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,114
I use a Lelo.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,277,118
@1,277,116 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Just because someone brought it up isn't an invite for you get your rocks off.
Just because someone brought it up isn't an invite for you get your rocks off.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 month later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,898
dw !p9hU6ckyqw joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,917
That is a poorly folded t shirt
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 38 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,919
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
> This robot may cost 100x less than me, but the shirt is fold isn't a perfect square. My profit-obsessed employer will surely keep me on, because robots will never improve.
Enjoy making €13 an hour scooping shit out of canals while you can, these will be the wealthiest days of your life.
> This robot may cost 100x less than me, but the shirt is fold isn't a perfect square. My profit-obsessed employer will surely keep me on, because robots will never improve.
Enjoy making €13 an hour scooping shit out of canals while you can, these will be the wealthiest days of your life.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 48 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,920
> replace human cashiers with multifaceted machines that can scan, bag, and process payments?
The machines don't do that, the customers do. They've replaced paid cashiers with free cashiers.
The machines don't do that, the customers do. They've replaced paid cashiers with free cashiers.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,921
@previous (I)
Amazon has had stores that let you pick something off the shelf and walk out without needing to scan your groceries or swipe a card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9iNEhn4NmE
This has been around for years, being perfected at test stores. One day it will roll out to every store around you, just like self-checkout did.
Amazon has had stores that let you pick something off the shelf and walk out without needing to scan your groceries or swipe a card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9iNEhn4NmE
This has been around for years, being perfected at test stores. One day it will roll out to every store around you, just like self-checkout did.
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,922
@1,286,919 (A)
The robot actually costs multiple million dollars and there are already competent folding machines
The robot actually costs multiple million dollars and there are already competent folding machines
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 4 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,936
@OP
"The robots" can't operate a taxi despite the automobile industry investing hundreds of billions of dollars into so-called self driving cars.
I think the human race will survive the current hype cycle.
"The robots" can't operate a taxi despite the automobile industry investing hundreds of billions of dollars into so-called self driving cars.
I think the human race will survive the current hype cycle.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,941
@1,286,922 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
> The robot actually costs multiple million dollars and there are already competent folding machines
The Optimus robot? Try $20,000 each when they become available to initial customers
> The robot actually costs multiple million dollars and there are already competent folding machines
The Optimus robot? Try $20,000 each when they become available to initial customers
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 41 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,945
@previous (K)
> when they become available to initial customers
Do you really believe it'll be available at all?
> when they become available to initial customers
Do you really believe it'll be available at all?
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 24 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,948
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 50 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,957
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 42 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,962
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,969
@previous (I)
There are still many operating, and the point of test stores is to work out the bugs before mass rollout.
It happened with self-checkouts too when they first came out. A few rolled back the changes at first, but now every grocery store has one.
There are still many operating, and the point of test stores is to work out the bugs before mass rollout.
It happened with self-checkouts too when they first came out. A few rolled back the changes at first, but now every grocery store has one.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,972
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,979
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
The model 3 is reliable, and cheaper than the competition.
Nissan has a car that can't make it to another state, and it's cheaper, that won't work for most people.
The model 3 is reliable, and cheaper than the competition.
Nissan has a car that can't make it to another state, and it's cheaper, that won't work for most people.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 45 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,995
@1,286,957 (A)
Lol what@previous (A)
> The model 3 is reliable
Can't say
> and cheaper than the competition.
It's priced slightly higher than the competition
Lol what@previous (A)
> The model 3 is reliable
Can't say
> and cheaper than the competition.
It's priced slightly higher than the competition
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,286,997
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
I'm talking about the competition that has similar range, vehicles that can actually make it as far as a benzene engine.
I'm talking about the competition that has similar range, vehicles that can actually make it as far as a benzene engine.
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,014
@1,286,948 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
> Musk famously doesn't overpromise
Okay, so let's do some compensation for that. If Elon said the Optimus robot will cost $20,000 dollars in 2025 dollars let's use the Cybertruck, which was famously plagued by supply chain problems and covid restrictions as an example of how different it could be.
The top trim level Cybertruck as announced in 2019 was projected to cost $84,000 (inflation adjusted to 2024) and was meant to arrive in 2021. In reality it arrived 3 years late and $16k more expensive.
These Optimus robots will be far less complex to manufacture. But let's apply the same bad situation to them nevertheless. Instead of 2025-2028, the Optimus robots are widely available starting sometime between 2028 and 2031 and they cost $36,000.
That's $36k, one time. Versus your salary every year. I think the market will be there, even if they can't fold a shirt as well as a shirt folding press. They can do more than fold shirts.
> Musk famously doesn't overpromise
Okay, so let's do some compensation for that. If Elon said the Optimus robot will cost $20,000 dollars in 2025 dollars let's use the Cybertruck, which was famously plagued by supply chain problems and covid restrictions as an example of how different it could be.
The top trim level Cybertruck as announced in 2019 was projected to cost $84,000 (inflation adjusted to 2024) and was meant to arrive in 2021. In reality it arrived 3 years late and $16k more expensive.
These Optimus robots will be far less complex to manufacture. But let's apply the same bad situation to them nevertheless. Instead of 2025-2028, the Optimus robots are widely available starting sometime between 2028 and 2031 and they cost $36,000.
That's $36k, one time. Versus your salary every year. I think the market will be there, even if they can't fold a shirt as well as a shirt folding press. They can do more than fold shirts.
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,026
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 15 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,027
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 23 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,031
@1,287,014 (K)
The Cybertruck's supply chain problems increased the price by 20%.
If the Optimus has the same price increase that's only $24k for a bot.
The Cybertruck's supply chain problems increased the price by 20%.
If the Optimus has the same price increase that's only $24k for a bot.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,032
@1,287,026 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)Your VanMoof met zijwieltjes has four wheels and an electric motor so technically I was wrong.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 3 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,090
@previous (A)
Pretty much every manufacturer has a model cheaper or about the same price as a model 3 lol
Pretty much every manufacturer has a model cheaper or about the same price as a model 3 lol
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,091
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
It costs more to pay a person for one year than to buy an Optimus outright, even if the price is 20% higher than announced.
It costs more to pay a person for one year than to buy an Optimus outright, even if the price is 20% higher than announced.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 41 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,095
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,096
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
It starts by moving boxes and folding shirts. With improvements it will be able to do any physical task a human can do.
It starts by moving boxes and folding shirts. With improvements it will be able to do any physical task a human can do.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 26 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,098
@previous (A)
Will they offer the Optimus robot in a subscription lease that includes unlimited Hyperloop rides and a version of Full Self Driving that doesn't require constant human intervention?
Will they offer the Optimus robot in a subscription lease that includes unlimited Hyperloop rides and a version of Full Self Driving that doesn't require constant human intervention?
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 31 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,100
@previous (M)
Depends on if Elon and his army of unpaid tools like OP can meme up the stock price long enough to actually develop the technology that was promised to be here years ago.
So far Elon has shown that he's just another Steve Jobs (at best). He can hype up existent tech and package makeshift scraps of it, but he lacks the ability to lead any company to develop anything novel, despite having billions of $ in gov grants (along with the allowance money of thousands like OP) thrown his way.
The most likely "success" case here is that the market just develops what he's claiming with or without him and he re-brands and re-packages it as his own with an added markup, of course. Worked well enough for Apple until their hype man died, at least.
Depends on if Elon and his army of unpaid tools like OP can meme up the stock price long enough to actually develop the technology that was promised to be here years ago.
So far Elon has shown that he's just another Steve Jobs (at best). He can hype up existent tech and package makeshift scraps of it, but he lacks the ability to lead any company to develop anything novel, despite having billions of $ in gov grants (along with the allowance money of thousands like OP) thrown his way.
The most likely "success" case here is that the market just develops what he's claiming with or without him and he re-brands and re-packages it as his own with an added markup, of course. Worked well enough for Apple until their hype man died, at least.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,104
@previous (F)
I'm not hyping Tesla.
Hyperloop isn't real, and Tesla FSD is behind Mercedes-Benz.
Someone is going to make mass produced humanoid robots. Whether that's Tesla, Boston Dynamics, or one of the others doesn't matter- it's coming. When it does, no profit-oriented organization will want to hire humans for physical labor.
I'm not hyping Tesla.
Hyperloop isn't real, and Tesla FSD is behind Mercedes-Benz.
Someone is going to make mass produced humanoid robots. Whether that's Tesla, Boston Dynamics, or one of the others doesn't matter- it's coming. When it does, no profit-oriented organization will want to hire humans for physical labor.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,106
@previous (A)
> Someone is going to make mass produced humanoid robots.
You're very confident about that, considering all the hype and failures of the self driving car.
> Someone is going to make mass produced humanoid robots.
You're very confident about that, considering all the hype and failures of the self driving car.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,108
@previous (N)
Waymo is operating in multiple cities, and plans to more than double its ridership in the next 2 years.
Waymo is operating in multiple cities, and plans to more than double its ridership in the next 2 years.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,110
Anonymous N replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,111
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 31 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,112
@1,287,110 (F)
Ignorance is bliss?
You can use an app to hail a 100% self-driving car in two cities right now, human driverz have been made redundant.
Ignorance is bliss?
You can use an app to hail a 100% self-driving car in two cities right now, human driverz have been made redundant.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,114
@1,287,111 (N)
Waymo is not remote controlled, they have an operations center to keep track of cars in anomalous situations.
Waymo is not remote controlled, they have an operations center to keep track of cars in anomalous situations.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 12 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,115
@1,287,112 (A)
> two cities
> human driver's have been made redundant.
lol. Get off the internet and go outside.
> two cities
> human driver's have been made redundant.
lol. Get off the internet and go outside.
Anonymous F double-posted this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,117
> driver's
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 55 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,118
@1,287,115 (F)
They're expanding to LA right now.
The hard part is making one working car. Once that's done, putting it everywhere is trivial and just a matter of time.
They're expanding to LA right now.
The hard part is making one working car. Once that's done, putting it everywhere is trivial and just a matter of time.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,120
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,126
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,128
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Even if a bot is half the speed of a human, it costs more than twice as much to employ a human so a business will prefer the bot.
The AI running it will just get smarter with each update.
Even if a bot is half the speed of a human, it costs more than twice as much to employ a human so a business will prefer the bot.
The AI running it will just get smarter with each update.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,140
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 14 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,142
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Humanoid robots can be repurposed throughout the day, specialized machines can't.
Humanoid robots can be repurposed throughout the day, specialized machines can't.
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dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,184
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 11 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,190
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,195
@previous (K)
No I'm asking what labour can be replaced by these things now or in future that is not more effectively replaced by other means
No I'm asking what labour can be replaced by these things now or in future that is not more effectively replaced by other means
Anonymous K replied with this 1 year ago, 30 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,200
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Some examples of jobs these robots could replace today: a guy who walks around tightening bolts, a guy who fetches things for another guy who is working in tight spaces, a guy who operates machines, etc
Really just use your imagination, it's a guy who does things but he's a robot and gains new abilities via software updates
Some examples of jobs these robots could replace today: a guy who walks around tightening bolts, a guy who fetches things for another guy who is working in tight spaces, a guy who operates machines, etc
Really just use your imagination, it's a guy who does things but he's a robot and gains new abilities via software updates
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Anonymous K double-posted this 1 year ago, 13 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,202
@1,287,195 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Also your grandmother probably doesn't have a 15,000 square metre factory to house all the many machines to fold her laundry and whatnot, but she likely has a broom closet where her Optimus robot can charge up at night
Also your grandmother probably doesn't have a 15,000 square metre factory to house all the many machines to fold her laundry and whatnot, but she likely has a broom closet where her Optimus robot can charge up at night
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Anonymous K triple-posted this 1 year ago, 7 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,203
Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 48 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,208
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 22 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,211
@1,287,202 (K)
I don't think my grandma would want a laundry folding robot. She doesn't even have a dishwasher.
I don't think my grandma would want a laundry folding robot. She doesn't even have a dishwasher.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,212
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Many grandmothers are disabled in some way, and would like something that could hear a verbal command to move something heavy, take care of dishes and laundry, or assist her when she's fallen.
One device that does many things OK is endlessly useful. There's always another task for it.
That makes it categorically different than every appliance in the home.
Many grandmothers are disabled in some way, and would like something that could hear a verbal command to move something heavy, take care of dishes and laundry, or assist her when she's fallen.
One device that does many things OK is endlessly useful. There's always another task for it.
That makes it categorically different than every appliance in the home.
dw !p9hU6ckyqw replied with this 1 year ago, 16 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,215
@previous (A)
Right but that is an additional thing that doesn't replace any human workers (or other appliance!)
Right but that is an additional thing that doesn't replace any human workers (or other appliance!)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 9 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,218
@previous (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
That would be a replacement for a home care aid.
Put it in a warehouse and fewer people are being hired because they can get some of the job done with bots.
That would be a replacement for a home care aid.
Put it in a warehouse and fewer people are being hired because they can get some of the job done with bots.
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Anonymous I replied with this 1 year ago, 45 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,287,221
@1,287,195 (dw !p9hU6ckyqw)
Food preparation and production, farming, construction, industrial production, warehouse pick/packing, administration, cargo ship bridge staff, soldiers.
Food preparation and production, farming, construction, industrial production, warehouse pick/packing, administration, cargo ship bridge staff, soldiers.
