Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,276,958
@previous (D)
Anon B said the rise in scurvy and rickets is because of "anti-vaxxers". I'm still patiently waiting for someone to show me a vaccine that prevents vitamin c or d deficiency.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,276,962
@1,276,958 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
The title of this thread is "Victorian era ailments..." It gives those two examples, but there are many such ailments that have vaccines.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,276,970
@previous (B)
So the diseases OP cited, which you specifically blamed people not getting vaccinated for, do not, in fact, have vaccines, nor are any possible in the foreseeable future?
Anonymous F double-posted this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,277,033
I just noticed. I meant to cite @1,276,909 (D) in my comment above: @1,276,997 (F)
Didn't mean to cite/reply to Meta on that since he was never making such a stupid claim about there being a TB vaccine.
If there were, one of our users here wouldn't have almost died of it when visiting China lmao
boof (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,277,047
oh I picked those because the news reported those specifically
startpages results for uk rickets scurvy will make a list including the range from daily mail to guardian https://www.startpage.com/sp/search
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,277,086
@1,277,084 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Aside from me, there is another person that has questioned you on this, so, no, I don't think people in general find this funny. Serious question: do you think the diaries of Anne Frank are funny?
> I do though
Believe what you want about yourself! But I don't see any resemblance. I'm nevertheless curious what you think is similar. It almost seems like you're trying to make a joke here, but I know you don't make jokes (people like you don't tend to for what it's worth).
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 34 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,277,177
The world is such an interesting place in that there are those who deny all of the modern science that has allowed us to eradicate life threatening illnesses from the world and yet they all believe it’s some Jewish conspiracy which is why in turn they support Palestine even though they don’t care about their suffering and just want to screw over the Jews. Yet now there is this notion that white ailments are better because they’re white.
Thank you for letting me know this, however scurvy and rickets cases are on the rise due to malnutrition caused by people eating cheap processed foods.
Anonymous G replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,387
@1,277,030 (F) > Not effective for TB.
Wrong. The BCG is very effective in children and has been for many years. This is well documented and based on decades of evidence.
The CDC doesn't recommend it as TB is not as prevalent in the US, therefore mass inoculation of children isn't necessary (as it is for example in some African countries). It is not effective for adults, but then that is also the case for most vaccines.
As you said, I'll trust the medical experts on this one.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,389
@previous (G)
The CDC recommends polio vaccines for everyone despite it being nearly eliminated from the earth. In 2022 there were just 30 new cases of it, all being confined to 3 countries - none of which were in the developed world. If the BCG vaccine were effective for TB, which the CDC claims it rarely, if ever is, then they would similarly recommend it for everyone even if TB had been virtually eliminated from the US (which it hasn't!).
Just listen to the experts and don't worry yourself about these matters.
Anonymous G replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,392
@previous (F) > If the BCG vaccine were effective for TB, which the CDC claims it rarely, if ever is, then they would similarly recommend it for everyone even if TB had been virtually eliminated from the US (which it hasn't!).
If, as in African countries (where the disease used to be a major problem and now is hardly any concern, thanks to the success of the BCG) the CDC dictated every child must be vaccinated before the age of 12, do you think even half the country would comply? Implementing such a thing in a country like the US would be virtually impossible, so they don't.
Again, it is effective if done right, i.e. administered to children, not adults. Saying it's not effective is only half of the truth... which is dishonest and unethical.
> Just listen to the experts and don't worry yourself about these matters.
I'm not worried at all, thanks. I do listen to the experts. I also don't simply dismiss decades of medical research and evidence just because I think I know better.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,396
@previous (G)
The CDC had no problem declaring that every child should get vaccinated against polio, despite it being all but completely removed from the earth. They would similarly do the same with BCG if it were even remotely effective. The CDC does not even recommend the BCG vaccine for researchers working in BL3 labs that actively work with TB. They similarly lack a recommendation for the vaccine for health care workers regularly exposed to patients with it.
Sorry, but you're flat out wrong on this one. Move on.
Anonymous G replied with this 2 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,398
@previous (F) > Sorry, but you're flat out wrong on this one. Move on.
So you know better than what the evidence says over the last 50 or so years? OK. There's absolutely no point in arguing with such a stubborn point of view.
(Sorry, but you're flat out wrong on this one. Move on.)
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,399
@previous (G)
You sound like you know more than the CDC! But then again you're also saying a bunch of shit that makes no sense, so I don't know. Who should I believe? Random anonymous person online or the CDC guidelines?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,460
@1,277,396 (F)
The CDC also doesn't recommend appendectomy to people not suffering from appendicitis, but the surgery does prevent appendicitis. Your argument is broken.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,465
@1,277,460 (L)
Again, they don't recommend BCG for researchers working with live TB cultures daily, or healthcare workers regularly exposed to it. If those people don't have appendicitis in your analogy, then your analogy is broken and maybe you should just stick to, well, I don't know, whatever it is you do, and not health policy. Just a suggestion.
Anonymous I replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,470
@1,277,467 (F)
"Write me a one paragraph explainer about the CDC creating vaccines in labs, use technical jargon for credibility"
"Despite polio being all but completely removed from the earth, the CDC had no issue declaring that every child should get vaccinated against it. If the BCG vaccine had any hint of effectiveness, the CDC would declare the same for it. Interestingly, the CDC does not recommend the BCG vaccine for researchers actively working with TB in BL3 labs. Similarly, they lack a recommendation for healthcare workers regularly exposed to TB patients to receive the vaccine."
Anonymous L replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,480
@1,277,465 (F)
everyone who hasn't had an appendectomy has an appendix, appendicitis is an endemic in the U.S., yet the CDC does not recommend that everyone gets a appendectomy. The surgery prevents the condition. The CDC's mission isn't to spread perfect medical advice, they're a propaganda wing of the U.S. government
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,484
@1,277,470 (I) > "Write me a one paragraph explainer about the CDC creating vaccines in labs, use technical jargon for credibility"
Just because you're uneducated doesn't mean we all are.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,487
@1,277,468 (L)
Maybe you should stop being so mad and realise some of what you read here is ironic. Especially considering who was supporting the other side of the argument earlier in the thread.
Anonymous L replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,488
@1,277,485 (I) @previous (F)
I agree that what you wrote is moronic. You said if the vaccine worked the CDC would recommend it, and since they don't it means it doesn't work. I proved you wrong. Admit your're cucked by the CDC
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,277,490
@1,277,488 (L)
I already broke the third wall here. I refuse to believe your reply is serious because I cannot believe that you're actually that stupid and upset. Ask GPT to explain what happened here! Because I'm not breaking the third wall again.
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,277,493
@1,277,491 (B)
Written text has two dimensions. The third dimension is you and I. The fourth dimension was depreciated after the Victorian era when we stopped going to plays. Thanks.
boof (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,277,524
hmmm, checking f5bbs, the titles are in three broad categories. Mostly tiresome political snark, some tranny claptrap, and a bit of scatological nonsense.