Topic: healthcare.gov (Obamacare) I am getting free health insurance
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago#115,219
I fucking love Obama. Trump wants to take this away. Why would anyone sane vote for someone who wants to take away their healthcare. How stupid can anyone be?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later[^][v]#1,272,958
1/3 of all medical expenditures are to insurance companies.
The remaining 2/3 is also inflated due to an artificial and intentional shortage of doctors through decades of lobbying and preventing new medical schools from opening.
Fixing this second problem is the important one and Obama wouldn't dare to even acknowledge it.
Instead of providing a state insurance program to all, he settled for a worse alternative than doing nothing, he imposed fines on people that were not patrons to a parasitic industry (i.e. those that did not have health insurance). Fined for being poor. How progressive of him.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,272,959
@previous (B)
Bullshit. the vast majority of the ridiculous cost of healthcare in the US is the fucking health insurance companies. But either way, the average citizen can do NOTHING about the prices. All we can do is pay if we can, and if not, use Obamacare. Trump wants to, and listen, TAKE HEALTHCARE AWAY FROM PEOPLE. What sort of insane moron would vote for someone who wants to TAKE AWAY THEIR HEALTHCARE?
What part of fining people for not having health insurance sounds fair to you?
How do you explain the constant shortage of doctors? No one's interested in being a doctor any more? Medical schools closing left and right because they can't seem to get any applicants?
What's the official party line on that? Seems like you know little else lol
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,272,965
@previous (B)
There are no fines. That is a myth. And I can't control doctor shortages. Citizens have no control over anything. All we can do is try to get healthcare. Now, there are three choices: (1) be wealthy; (2) have a Cush job with great health insurance; and (3) use healthcare.gov. Most Americans have to use (3). Why would they vote for someone trying to TAKE AWAY THEIR HEALTHCARE? Please answer that.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,272,966
@previous (A) > There are no fines.
Trump removed the fines lol
> And I can't control doctor shortages. Citizens have no control over anything. All we can do is try to get healthcare.
The easier way is to fix the shortage than to continually argue about how we can make sure the medical industry continues making record profits decade after decade.
Anonymous B double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 44 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,272,967
Why is it the US spends more on health care (purely by government spending alone -- not even talking about out of pocket or insurance) than Canada or the UK?
boof replied with this 2 years ago, 50 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,272,970
@previous (B)
well, it not only has to support the medical staff and their equipment, but also the management executive, and one hell of a huge insurance industry
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,273,292
@previous (F)
We know it's not "free". It is tax-funded. The point is that we pay MORE for private insurance than we would in taxes for public healthcare. We would overall save tons of money. Also, yes, the poorest people who make too little to pay taxes would receive healthcare. Why would anyone oppose the poor getting help unless they were a selfish prick?