Topic: FAO: Metæ
Erik !saAqdaazn2 started this discussion 2 years ago #114,834
Are you still sober?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 8 hours later[^] [v] #1,269,854
Why did he get sober to begin with? He must be around 30 now and he's been using the tripcode for 5+ years now? Really doesn't seem like much time to even become and be an alcoholic.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,859
@previous (B)
https://minichan.net/topic/75540#reply_890754
You can have an inappropriate relationship to alcohol at any point. It doesn't take years or decades to develop necessarily. Some people are more prone to misuse than others.
Being sober is hard and I know it's your schtick to be a massive cunt, but props to Meta for his success.
https://minichan.net/topic/75540#reply_890754
You can have an inappropriate relationship to alcohol at any point. It doesn't take years or decades to develop necessarily. Some people are more prone to misuse than others.
Being sober is hard and I know it's your schtick to be a massive cunt, but props to Meta for his success.
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Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,877
@previous (C)
Thanks for linking that. That's a touching story that you linked. Until I thought for half a second about what was actually being said...
> You can have an inappropriate relationship to alcohol at any point. It doesn't take years or decades to develop necessarily. Some people are more prone to misuse than others.
No, it doesn't take years to develop, but it takes a special level of weak-mindedness to become an alcoholic in such a short duration of time. It's probably one of the easiest drugs to not become addicted to, because no other drug reliably and consistently causes hang-overs and negative physical consequences. I think even refined sugar is more hard-core and addictive than alcohol because the consequences of over doing it are so comparatively minor and are not the near instant negative reinforcement you get from alcohol.
I actually thought at one point to cut out refined sugar from my diet (actually, I didn't, but I'm trying to be generous here). But then I realized I could just not be an entirely weak-willed slob and not eat pastries and candy all the time. Turns out just being reasonably moderate about things and exercising the most minimal amount of self-control is working quite well for me... and pretty much everyone that isn't obese. But, anyway, back to Meta... oh wait... lol
I normally wouldn't say anything about this, but it's just so particularly ironic with Meta that we can't just leave this elephant in the room for any longer. The idea that some people are "more prone to misuse than others" is just a way to medicalize laziness and a lack of will-power. Just man-up. Stop being a pussy. and on and on. It's ironic because Meta all too often likes to bring up arguments like this. Turns out, he's the biggest snowflake of them all lmao. In every sense.
Thanks for linking that. That's a touching story that you linked. Until I thought for half a second about what was actually being said...
> You can have an inappropriate relationship to alcohol at any point. It doesn't take years or decades to develop necessarily. Some people are more prone to misuse than others.
No, it doesn't take years to develop, but it takes a special level of weak-mindedness to become an alcoholic in such a short duration of time. It's probably one of the easiest drugs to not become addicted to, because no other drug reliably and consistently causes hang-overs and negative physical consequences. I think even refined sugar is more hard-core and addictive than alcohol because the consequences of over doing it are so comparatively minor and are not the near instant negative reinforcement you get from alcohol.
I actually thought at one point to cut out refined sugar from my diet (actually, I didn't, but I'm trying to be generous here). But then I realized I could just not be an entirely weak-willed slob and not eat pastries and candy all the time. Turns out just being reasonably moderate about things and exercising the most minimal amount of self-control is working quite well for me... and pretty much everyone that isn't obese. But, anyway, back to Meta... oh wait... lol
I normally wouldn't say anything about this, but it's just so particularly ironic with Meta that we can't just leave this elephant in the room for any longer. The idea that some people are "more prone to misuse than others" is just a way to medicalize laziness and a lack of will-power. Just man-up. Stop being a pussy. and on and on. It's ironic because Meta all too often likes to bring up arguments like this. Turns out, he's the biggest snowflake of them all lmao. In every sense.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 52 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,883
Yes! I have not had a drink in over five years now!
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 57 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,893
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Good for you. Alcohol is a very hard drug to control. For some peeps it is just better to shut it down totally. Much easier said than done.
Good for you. Alcohol is a very hard drug to control. For some peeps it is just better to shut it down totally. Much easier said than done.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 19 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,900
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,902
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Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,907
@1,269,900 (B)
> >Alcohol is a very hard drug to control
> It really isn't though.
Maybe it isn't, for you. But it is and was for me and for Meta.
> >Alcohol is a very hard drug to control
> It really isn't though.
Maybe it isn't, for you. But it is and was for me and for Meta.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,935
@previous (E)
It is if you have zero self-control. And even then you have to work to become an alcoholic due to the hang-overs and constant physical toll it puts on your body. No self-control, but endless patience and willingness to keep at it despite the constant physical consequences that are far beyond any other known recreational drug. It makes no sense.
Alcoholics are really the disgraceful retarded cousins of real drug addicts and honestly give them a bad name. Brain dead meth heads like squeegee not withstanding.
It is if you have zero self-control. And even then you have to work to become an alcoholic due to the hang-overs and constant physical toll it puts on your body. No self-control, but endless patience and willingness to keep at it despite the constant physical consequences that are far beyond any other known recreational drug. It makes no sense.
Alcoholics are really the disgraceful retarded cousins of real drug addicts and honestly give them a bad name. Brain dead meth heads like squeegee not withstanding.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,936
@previous (B)
To the contrary, addiction is an extremely complicated neurological phenomenon. Self-control has nothing to do with it.
To the contrary, addiction is an extremely complicated neurological phenomenon. Self-control has nothing to do with it.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,937
@previous (F)
Great rebuttal! But addiction is an extremely well-studied psychosocial phenomenon. Self-control has everything to do with it.
Great rebuttal! But addiction is an extremely well-studied psychosocial phenomenon. Self-control has everything to do with it.
Anonymous B double-posted this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,938
In all seriousness, though, there are certain mutations that many (most? I can't recall) alcoholics have. Interestingly, these mutations help accelerate the metabolism of alcohol's by-products formaldehyde (yeah, really!) being one of them. Consequently, these people have fewer and less severe hang-overs than most of everyone else. So they have fewer to no negative consequences and only the positives.
However, in Meta's touching story linked above, he complained that the hang-overs and physical effects were his main reason for wanting to quit, making it seem quite likely that he does not have the genetic predisposition to be an alcoholic.
So, despite all odds, he managed to do it anyway. Talk about a lack of self-control lol
However, in Meta's touching story linked above, he complained that the hang-overs and physical effects were his main reason for wanting to quit, making it seem quite likely that he does not have the genetic predisposition to be an alcoholic.
So, despite all odds, he managed to do it anyway. Talk about a lack of self-control lol
boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 14 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,946
I don't even get the positives in the first place
having to pee every 15 minutes, oh swell
and I'm dizzy too
having to pee every 15 minutes, oh swell
and I'm dizzy too
Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 16 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,950
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Anonymous F replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,961
@previous (B)
Why the laughter? I don't like alcohol and I don't do well with it, so I just don't drink.
Why the laughter? I don't like alcohol and I don't do well with it, so I just don't drink.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,963
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Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,269,976
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@1,269,976 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
People in America can't control themselves. So they have to hide behind words and use religion and other extremism like abstaining from all drugs.
People in America can't control themselves. So they have to hide behind words and use religion and other extremism like abstaining from all drugs.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,270,037
@1,269,935 (B)
> It is if you have zero self-control. And even then you have to work to become an alcoholic due to the hang-overs and constant physical toll it puts on your body. No self-control, but endless patience and willingness to keep at it despite the constant physical consequences that are far beyond any other known recreational drug. It makes no sense.
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> Alcoholics are really the disgraceful retarded cousins of real drug addicts and honestly give them a bad name. Brain dead meth heads like squeegee not withstanding.
You're a fucking fool.
> It is if you have zero self-control. And even then you have to work to become an alcoholic due to the hang-overs and constant physical toll it puts on your body. No self-control, but endless patience and willingness to keep at it despite the constant physical consequences that are far beyond any other known recreational drug. It makes no sense.
>
> Alcoholics are really the disgraceful retarded cousins of real drug addicts and honestly give them a bad name. Brain dead meth heads like squeegee not withstanding.
You're a fucking fool.
boof replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,270,044
I do respect a good hard-working alcoholic
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 44 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,270,051
@1,269,976 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
I actually did several times. It did work, in the sense it provided a cheap source of alcohol but it wasn't good enough or cheap enough to keep the project going.
People like to overcomplicate things but just put some yeast into fruit juice and the wine just makes itself.
I actually did several times. It did work, in the sense it provided a cheap source of alcohol but it wasn't good enough or cheap enough to keep the project going.
People like to overcomplicate things but just put some yeast into fruit juice and the wine just makes itself.