Topic: Seriously, who the fuck spends so much effort hating on Disney?
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM started this discussion 2 years ago #114,264
These people who makes the argument of Disney being 'woke' all seem to forget that the reasons why they're 'woke' have always existed.
It seems like the reason why Disney is 'woke' is because they focus on inclusivity? Like this message didn't exist in their films before 'woke' was a word.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame, a movie with a protagonist who is a 'freak,' a woman from an oppressed people, and a villain who is a high official in the church.
Had the ride It's A Small World After All opened today it would've been called the wokest ride ever.
It's getting kind of dumb.
It seems like the reason why Disney is 'woke' is because they focus on inclusivity? Like this message didn't exist in their films before 'woke' was a word.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame, a movie with a protagonist who is a 'freak,' a woman from an oppressed people, and a villain who is a high official in the church.
Had the ride It's A Small World After All opened today it would've been called the wokest ride ever.
It's getting kind of dumb.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,264,708
Catherine a person your age should not be getting this invested in movies made to entertain children. You need to grow up and become an adult. Your parents will not be around to give you food and shelter forever, watching children's movies will not pay for food or rent.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,710
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 20 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,713
Aren't you like 35?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,714
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,716
@OP
Do you think anyone from Disney was around in 1831 when The Hunchback of Notre-Dame was originally published. Do you think they had very much influence on the basics of its plot?
Do you think anyone from Disney was around in 1831 when The Hunchback of Notre-Dame was originally published. Do you think they had very much influence on the basics of its plot?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,717
@1,264,710 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
What is your evaluation of The Swiss Family Robinson? They fucked up a lot of slopes in the film!
What is your evaluation of The Swiss Family Robinson? They fucked up a lot of slopes in the film!
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,721
@1,264,716 (E)
> Do you think they had very much influence on the basics of its plot?
Well, no shit, the same for any other fairy tale story. The Brothers Grimm also tampered with a lot of the stories when they published them.
Nobody was bitching about Disney being woke back when the classic animated adaptions were around.
@previous (F)
I've yet to see Disney's Swiss Family Robinson.
@1,264,714 (D)
At least I have a job with my own money now. Piss off.
> Do you think they had very much influence on the basics of its plot?
Well, no shit, the same for any other fairy tale story. The Brothers Grimm also tampered with a lot of the stories when they published them.
Nobody was bitching about Disney being woke back when the classic animated adaptions were around.
@previous (F)
I've yet to see Disney's Swiss Family Robinson.
@1,264,714 (D)
At least I have a job with my own money now. Piss off.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,722
@previous (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> At least I have a job with my own money now. Piss off.
Bout damn time you stop being a whiny moocher. I've been working for 20 years making my own damn way. Now piss off sir.
> At least I have a job with my own money now. Piss off.
Bout damn time you stop being a whiny moocher. I've been working for 20 years making my own damn way. Now piss off sir.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,723
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,725
In the original, he was kind of retarded and I think he fucked Esmeralda's corpse until he died
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,726
@1,264,721 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
you don't have "your own money" until you aren't being subsidized by mom and dad. you have an allowance, because that bit of pocket change you earn should be going towards the rent and utilities you're leeching. you're probably being claimed as a dependent on their taxes, so be careful not to fuck your parents even harder. the other poster is right, you need to make a plan or get full retard status so the government can take care of you
you don't have "your own money" until you aren't being subsidized by mom and dad. you have an allowance, because that bit of pocket change you earn should be going towards the rent and utilities you're leeching. you're probably being claimed as a dependent on their taxes, so be careful not to fuck your parents even harder. the other poster is right, you need to make a plan or get full retard status so the government can take care of you
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Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,727
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 16 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,728
@1,264,723 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> That's not an enviable life, sir. Now piss off with your rudeness.
Oh, you're one of those dudes. The ones who think they shouldn't have to work, and are entitled to anything they want free of charge. You sir, are a pathetic piece of shit.
> That's not an enviable life, sir. Now piss off with your rudeness.
Oh, you're one of those dudes. The ones who think they shouldn't have to work, and are entitled to anything they want free of charge. You sir, are a pathetic piece of shit.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,731
Anonymous C replied with this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,733
@1,264,726 (E)
Yup, this right here. OP needs to get a grip and become self-sufficient. Living with your parents when you're close to 40 isn't a good look. Nor is being obsessed with video games and Disney movies for kids.
Yup, this right here. OP needs to get a grip and become self-sufficient. Living with your parents when you're close to 40 isn't a good look. Nor is being obsessed with video games and Disney movies for kids.
boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,735
Herbie the Love Bug -- sounds like something some fucking flower power hippie on the bong would dream up
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 24 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,742
@1,264,731 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
Oh, you're definitely a sir, sir. Thanks.
Also, nice Google image. Why don't you post a picture of yourself?
Oh, you're definitely a sir, sir. Thanks.
Also, nice Google image. Why don't you post a picture of yourself?
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 32 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,744
@previous (D)
Not a sir, sir.
@1,264,733 (C)
> Living with your parents isn't a good look.
lol It's current year 2023, nobody can afford to live on their own. And those who live away from family tend to live with roommates anyway.
So, piss off, boomer.
Not a sir, sir.
@1,264,733 (C)
> Living with your parents isn't a good look.
lol It's current year 2023, nobody can afford to live on their own. And those who live away from family tend to live with roommates anyway.
So, piss off, boomer.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 25 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,745
@previous (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
why don't you just claim your retardbucks and make life easier for your entire family
why don't you just claim your retardbucks and make life easier for your entire family
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 37 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,746
@1,264,744 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> Not a sir, sir.
You were born a sir, you're still a sir, and you will die, a sir.
> Not a sir, sir.
You were born a sir, you're still a sir, and you will die, a sir.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,751
@previous (D)
Not sir, sir.
@1,264,745 (E)
I am starting to get to a point where I think I no longer qualify for retardbucks.
Not sir, sir.
@1,264,745 (E)
I am starting to get to a point where I think I no longer qualify for retardbucks.
m. cocos melopepo II esq joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,753
bruh
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 6 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,792
@1,264,721 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> Nobody was bitching about Disney being woke back when the classic animated adaptions were around.
That is because they were not woke.
> Nobody was bitching about Disney being woke back when the classic animated adaptions were around.
That is because they were not woke.
boof replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,804
@1,264,744 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
I've noticed that most of the jokes about living in basements were popularized by multimillionaire entertainers with warehouses full of fucking rare automobiles
I've noticed that most of the jokes about living in basements were popularized by multimillionaire entertainers with warehouses full of fucking rare automobiles
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 6 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,835
@previous (boof)
Who knows? But it’s mostly just an American custom. The rest of the world the family unit is an important aspect of life. Though the American custom will likely disappear once more people start determining that it’s financially more secure to remain with family. Leaving the only reason for leaving being due to abusive or toxic households.
Who knows? But it’s mostly just an American custom. The rest of the world the family unit is an important aspect of life. Though the American custom will likely disappear once more people start determining that it’s financially more secure to remain with family. Leaving the only reason for leaving being due to abusive or toxic households.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 27 seconds later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,836
Anonymous J replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,839
@previous (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> Define ‘woke’ in your own words.
The state of being awake / aware / enlightened as to modern day, progressive, culturally marxist and politically correct behaviours and opinions.
> Define ‘woke’ in your own words.
The state of being awake / aware / enlightened as to modern day, progressive, culturally marxist and politically correct behaviours and opinions.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,841
@previous (J)
Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
Anonymous J replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,842
@1,264,836 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
Classic Disney was not woke, in that it adhered to somewhat outdated, traditional tropes and archetypes, such as a prince (strong male) and princess (vulnerable female), a clearly defined villain, themes of good vs. evil, traditional romance between a man and a woman, realisation of the main character's true metal, and so on.
Modern Disney rejects these themes and instead attempts to cater to a more progressive, woke audience, very often getting it wrong, because by the time they've decided on, say, what a woman is, the definition was updated last week and now they're also in trouble with the alphabet people because they left out 2 new letters... or the prince isn't emasculated enough, or the princess isn't a strong independent beautiful transgender down syndrome lesbian double amputee from Nigeria... and, well, who the fuck really cares?
Classic Disney was not woke, in that it adhered to somewhat outdated, traditional tropes and archetypes, such as a prince (strong male) and princess (vulnerable female), a clearly defined villain, themes of good vs. evil, traditional romance between a man and a woman, realisation of the main character's true metal, and so on.
Modern Disney rejects these themes and instead attempts to cater to a more progressive, woke audience, very often getting it wrong, because by the time they've decided on, say, what a woman is, the definition was updated last week and now they're also in trouble with the alphabet people because they left out 2 new letters... or the prince isn't emasculated enough, or the princess isn't a strong independent beautiful transgender down syndrome lesbian double amputee from Nigeria... and, well, who the fuck really cares?
Anonymous J double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,843
@1,264,841 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
No, Catherine, these are all words you can look up quite easily for yourself in a dictionary.
> Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
No, Catherine, these are all words you can look up quite easily for yourself in a dictionary.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 14 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,844
@previous (J)
I was asking for your words not Google's.
@1,264,842 (J)
You say this like those old tropes don't still exist. The existence of the movie I mentioned The Hunchback of Notre Dame proves you incorrect.
I was asking for your words not Google's.
@1,264,842 (J)
You say this like those old tropes don't still exist. The existence of the movie I mentioned The Hunchback of Notre Dame proves you incorrect.
Anonymous J replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,846
@previous (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> I was asking for your words not Google's.
They were my words, not Google's. But I can see how somebody with no imagination, low intelligence and a poor education might assume that.
> The Hunchback of Notre Dame
You realise that was made 26 years ago, right?
It can hardly be counted as modern day.
> I was asking for your words not Google's.
They were my words, not Google's. But I can see how somebody with no imagination, low intelligence and a poor education might assume that.
> The Hunchback of Notre Dame
You realise that was made 26 years ago, right?
It can hardly be counted as modern day.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,847
@previous (J)
> You realise that was made 26 years ago, right?
> It can hardly be counted as modern day.
Go on...
> They were my words, not Google's.
You never provided any of your words or Google's words for this: Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
@1,264,843 (J) indicates that you merely instructed me to get Google's word. You failed to address this, but perhaps I should be more forgiving since it's easy to miss points for somebody with no imagination, low intelligence, and a poor education.
> You realise that was made 26 years ago, right?
> It can hardly be counted as modern day.
Go on...
> They were my words, not Google's.
You never provided any of your words or Google's words for this: Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
@1,264,843 (J) indicates that you merely instructed me to get Google's word. You failed to address this, but perhaps I should be more forgiving since it's easy to miss points for somebody with no imagination, low intelligence, and a poor education.
Anonymous J replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,848
@previous (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> > You realise that was made 26 years ago, right?
> > It can hardly be counted as modern day.
> Go on...
So, as I said in my first comment - it's classic Disney. It is not woke.
> You never provided any of your words or Google's words for this:
You asked me to define 'woke' in my own words, which I did. However, I draw the line at being lead down the garden path of painstakingly defining every word in my definition (and then what, every word in the definitions of the definitions?) when you can very easily look them up yourself.
I'll skip the rest of your nonsensical, echolalia-ridden comment.
> > You realise that was made 26 years ago, right?
> > It can hardly be counted as modern day.
> Go on...
So, as I said in my first comment - it's classic Disney. It is not woke.
> You never provided any of your words or Google's words for this:
You asked me to define 'woke' in my own words, which I did. However, I draw the line at being lead down the garden path of painstakingly defining every word in my definition (and then what, every word in the definitions of the definitions?) when you can very easily look them up yourself.
I'll skip the rest of your nonsensical, echolalia-ridden comment.
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 21 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,852
@previous (J)
That's not what I asked for.
Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
I can't get your words on Google.
You're basically telling me that you can't answer the question because you have nothing to really say. Which discredits your cookie-cutter definition of 'woke' that you likely got from Google.
This wasn't the assignment and therefore you get an
Good-day.
That's not what I asked for.
Now in your own words define what "modern day, progressive, culturally marxist, and politically correct behaviors and opinions" entails.
I can't get your words on Google.
You're basically telling me that you can't answer the question because you have nothing to really say. Which discredits your cookie-cutter definition of 'woke' that you likely got from Google.
This wasn't the assignment and therefore you get an
F
for failure.Good-day.
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boof replied with this 2 years ago, 32 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,862
@1,264,839 (J)
I would avoid the term "culturally marxist" as that is sourced from the Nazis and is a red flag for those of us who don't care for their philosophies
I would avoid the term "culturally marxist" as that is sourced from the Nazis and is a red flag for those of us who don't care for their philosophies
Anonymous J replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,885
@previous (boof)
> sourced from the Nazis
A lot of people think that (including Wikipedia) but it is not true. It came from the Frankfurt school, which was critical of Marxism as a standalone theory, and sought to combine it with the ideas of Hegel and Nietzche. It certainly wasn't a Nazi-born ideology, and a lot of it went directly against Nazi "values".
Read Eric Fromm - a German Jew who escaped from Nazi Germany to the US - one of the main proponents of the Frankfurt school of critical theory.
Edit: I see Wikipedia laughably calls this a right wing conspiracy theory. Whoever wrote that doesn't have a clue.
> sourced from the Nazis
A lot of people think that (including Wikipedia) but it is not true. It came from the Frankfurt school, which was critical of Marxism as a standalone theory, and sought to combine it with the ideas of Hegel and Nietzche. It certainly wasn't a Nazi-born ideology, and a lot of it went directly against Nazi "values".
Read Eric Fromm - a German Jew who escaped from Nazi Germany to the US - one of the main proponents of the Frankfurt school of critical theory.
Edit: I see Wikipedia laughably calls this a right wing conspiracy theory. Whoever wrote that doesn't have a clue.
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Anonymous J double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,886
@1,264,852 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
> That's not what I asked for.
Boo hoo. Deal with it.
> I can't get your words on Google.
Because you, sir, are thick.
> You're basically telling me that you can't answer the question
No I'm not.
> definition of 'woke' that you likely got from Google.
No I didn't.
Thanks for playing. :)
> That's not what I asked for.
Boo hoo. Deal with it.
> I can't get your words on Google.
Because you, sir, are thick.
> You're basically telling me that you can't answer the question
No I'm not.
> definition of 'woke' that you likely got from Google.
No I didn't.
Thanks for playing. :)
Typical Porn consumer joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,889
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,891
Stupid people looking for reasons to be offended.
Anonymous L double-posted this 2 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,892
Don’t like gay characters in kids movies? Don’t watch them. Simple.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,896
Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,904
boof replied with this 2 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,947
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,958
@1,264,844 (Cathabis !TGirlYJKXM)
How does that movie tie into your always woke theory of Disney history unification? Please, elaborate. Show your work. So far you have cited one movie and one amusement park ride with no further examination 🧐
How does that movie tie into your always woke theory of Disney history unification? Please, elaborate. Show your work. So far you have cited one movie and one amusement park ride with no further examination 🧐
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Anonymous J replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,264,971
@1,264,947 (boof)
> I see you've gotten yourself in too deep
Not sure I understand. How so? I am merely interested in history.
> I see you've gotten yourself in too deep
Not sure I understand. How so? I am merely interested in history.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,265,020
Have you seen the new South Park special about this yet?