Topic: Question for mini-leftists
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #114,072
... especially those of you who virtue signal by crying "Slava Ukraine!".
Slava means Glory. Why are you allowed to say, "Glory to Ukraine!", i.e. call for and celebrate Ukrainian supremacy, but it is forbidden in your world ever to say, "Glory to the USA!" or "Glory to Britain!", i.e. call for and celebrate the supremacy of your own country?
Slava means Glory. Why are you allowed to say, "Glory to Ukraine!", i.e. call for and celebrate Ukrainian supremacy, but it is forbidden in your world ever to say, "Glory to the USA!" or "Glory to Britain!", i.e. call for and celebrate the supremacy of your own country?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #1,262,780
Proxy nationalism is acceptable. Nationalism isn't. Thus, an English person flying a Ukrainian flag outside his house is fine, laudable even, but if he flies the flag of St George he's a xenophobe. Why? Don't ask, just because. It's like when Manchester United player Marcus Rashford tried to highlight the issue of child poverty in Britain and then-Home Secretary Liz Truss said that footballers should stay out of politics, and then 2 years later then-Prime Minister Liz Truss was cajoling footballers to get involved in politics and publicly support Ukraine. Situational "values" are the West's speciality.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,783
@previous (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> Proxy nationalism is acceptable.
> Don't ask, just because.
It's so fucking weird. Seems like it's only the West that behaves like this. I can't imagine Russians or Chinese people being too embarrassed (or whatever) to fly their flags or to be seen as patriotic.
> Proxy nationalism is acceptable.
> Don't ask, just because.
It's so fucking weird. Seems like it's only the West that behaves like this. I can't imagine Russians or Chinese people being too embarrassed (or whatever) to fly their flags or to be seen as patriotic.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,784
@1,262,780 (Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc)
> footballers
Didn't some Jewish FA guy resign recently because he was being forced to support Palestine?
> footballers
Didn't some Jewish FA guy resign recently because he was being forced to support Palestine?
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 18 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,786
@1,262,783 (A)
> > Proxy nationalism is acceptable.
> > Don't ask, just because.
> It's so fucking weird. Seems like it's only the West that behaves like this.
Western people are fundamentally the same as non-Western people: they by and large want to support oppressed people. Unfortunately for Westerners, their governments increasingly think 1984 was a manual and are dictating to them whom they can and can't support (notice how Germany and France have banned pro-Palestinian demonstrations, and the UK is now trying to legally tie support for Palestine with support for Hamas). You may recall that whole preposterous "I Stand With The Women of Iran!" campaign from last year that Western governments and their media forced down everyone's throat. This happened because they wanted everyone to stop talking about the Taliban re-enslaving Afghan women, so they manufactured a new 'acceptable cause' for people to channel their concern. The same is happening now with Israel and the same will happen in 2025 with Taiwan. Again: situational values.
> > Proxy nationalism is acceptable.
> > Don't ask, just because.
> It's so fucking weird. Seems like it's only the West that behaves like this.
Western people are fundamentally the same as non-Western people: they by and large want to support oppressed people. Unfortunately for Westerners, their governments increasingly think 1984 was a manual and are dictating to them whom they can and can't support (notice how Germany and France have banned pro-Palestinian demonstrations, and the UK is now trying to legally tie support for Palestine with support for Hamas). You may recall that whole preposterous "I Stand With The Women of Iran!" campaign from last year that Western governments and their media forced down everyone's throat. This happened because they wanted everyone to stop talking about the Taliban re-enslaving Afghan women, so they manufactured a new 'acceptable cause' for people to channel their concern. The same is happening now with Israel and the same will happen in 2025 with Taiwan. Again: situational values.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,800
ukraine isnt leftist u fag
nato is the imperialist here so peace is the leftist solution obvs
its braindead lib shit
wtf
nato is the imperialist here so peace is the leftist solution obvs
its braindead lib shit
wtf
boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,811
well Ukraine is in a god damn situation right now, so maybe that's why people want to cheer it on for success
Father Dave !RsSxeehGwc replied with this 2 years ago, 30 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,817
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 25 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,824
> if he flies the flag of St George he's a xenophobe
Do you think people would be more lenient if they knew that George of Lydda and his mother, Polychronia, were actually Palestinians?
Albeit Greek / Christian... so I suppose that doesn't count. Never mind.
Do you think people would be more lenient if they knew that George of Lydda and his mother, Polychronia, were actually Palestinians?
Albeit Greek / Christian... so I suppose that doesn't count. Never mind.
Throckmorton !dxiFV8kfVg joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 34 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,833
We Canadians tend to support the rights of all humans.
Real Indy Ask Mods joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 8 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,262,891
Freedom knows no borders.