Meta !PARAdoxiHw joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later[^][v]#205,004
Knowledge of religion (not belief, but knowledge) is necessary for understanding a lot of art, history, and culture, so I would not mind my kids being taught about world religions and the history thereof. I'm an atheist, and I find religion to be a fascinating subject.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#205,006
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Ok, what if they're taught that they WILL go to Heaven and that God created us all, when really it is Evolution that has put us here?
The Pony !.PonyTzEbE joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#205,007
This wasn't my experience with Religious Education, and I even went to a catholic school. In fact, I believe that we were told many times that they weren't here to tell us what to believe.
Meta !PARAdoxiHw replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^][v]#205,008
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If the kids are stupid enough to believe that, then they would eventually wind up being Christian anyway.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#205,009
@205,007 (The Pony !.PonyTzEbE)
I went to a C of E school and we were pretty much force feed that BS.
@previous (Meta !PARAdoxiHw)
Yes but kids learn what they're taught.
The Pony !.PonyTzEbE replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#205,010
> I went to a C of E school and we were pretty much force feed that BS.
Were you? I doubt it. I bet you were taught that that's what Christians believe at the same time as being told that you were a Christian, so you made the leap of logic yourself.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#205,011
@previous (The Pony !.PonyTzEbE)
I went to a school with 40 people, in the entire school, so yeah we were.
Prayer before lunch, told we were all going to heaven, hell if we commit sins. All that bollocks.
sluggy joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,017
I would be all for my children being taught about religion. I would not want them being taught a religious curriculum.
I would not want them taught lies as truth. There is no Christian/Muslim god (most other religions don't tend to try to convert as actively as they do). There is no evidence of any god. I would not want my children taught such nonsense and be left to "determine the truth for themselves" as children are not equipped to properly combat adults who are educated in indoctrinating youth. They know how to trick children. It's like leaving your child alone with a molester under the stipulation he could only rape them if it was with the child's consent.
Children lack experience and can be tricked. Knowledge of religion is important to have a full understanding of history and the world. I would definitely want my child taught religion in a historical context. When you are properly educated, it is difficult to become a believer (though many are able to be willfully ignorant).
Unintentional Jackass !LASXURl1b6 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,031
I believe that religious education is supposed to be unbiased to any individual religion, so I have no problem with introducing a smorgasboard of religions to my child that they may draw the conclusion on their own that all religion is the same rehashed shit.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,034
I wouldn't have a problem with them doing it. I did it and it didn't do me any harm, and it sure didn't try to convert anybody to anything.
The Pony !.PonyTzEbE replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,037
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 13 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,164
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only when the anus is warm with the lust, mister holy claus
Triptych !LightPenis joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,183
They should be taught about religion, yes. Taught to believe in it, no, that's their own choice to make.
Religion is a huge fucking part of history, and art. Much of what we regard as science came from religion.
Even in the case of Christianity, the irony is that the prototype of the "scientific worldview" emerged from medieval Christian thought. St. Aquinas' reverence for the natural world was a reflection of his devotion. Even in the Dark Ages, there was thought outside of Christian thought. It just wasn't "formal" - despite the fact that Europe was nominally Christian, people pretty much went about their business and did what they were going to do without reference to Christian ideas.
Do you think the Holy Roman Emperors were thinking "Gee, is this really in line with the teachings of Christ?" when they tried to wrest authority from the Papacy? They didn't give a shit. Secularism already existed, it just wasn't a formalized philosophy. Secularism/atheism/disbelief has ALWAYS existed. It's just had to fly under the radar or camoflauge itself when it hasn't been backed up by political power.
"Proto-scientific" thought emerged from Christianity. It was seen as a logical conclusion of the theological viewpoints of the time, largely contrasted with earlier Augustinian views of the world and nature.
One of the founders of scientific thought - Renes Descartes - was inspired by a dream he had of angels.
And despite largely being regarded as 'the father of reason', Socrates was inspired by some kind of weird experience he had with the Oracle at Delphi.
As for art, that's just fucking obvious.
tl;dr yes.
The Pony !.PonyTzEbE replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#205,225