Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 54 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,260,104
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No I think Putin specifically said he wouldn't have done it while Trump was in power, as he (Putin) could not predict Trump's response to it.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,260,107
@1,260,102 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > What was the exact information
the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads they routinely carry, and exactly how close they supposedly can get to a Russian submarine without being detected. > and who was the foreign national?
Anthony Pratt
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,260,110
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I was just relaying the information you requested, but yeah you probably should be at least a little miffed about a government official willy nilly giving away national secrets to random foreigners. That's generally not a good thing.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,260,111
@1,260,108 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
All of the nation's security experts say it is a huge deal and dangerous to national security, but I'm sure a Minichan poster knows better than they.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 23 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,260,123
@1,260,110 (D)
Oh well in that case I'm absolutely furious, purple faced with rage, that some Australian guy might allegedly know something about our submarines.
@previous (A)
Are these the same security experts that told us Iraq had WMD?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 51 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,260,129
@1,260,123 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
He also told it toothed foreign nationals and reporters. But again, I'm, sure you know more about it than the world's top security experts.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,260,147
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Probably not the same ones, but that is irrelevant. The fact that the corpus of experts occasionally make mistakes does not mean they are always wrong. That is a fallacy.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,260,158
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Basically my thing is this: the countries top security experts all agreed that Saddam had WMD. He, in fact, did not. This cost many thousands of lives (American and Iraqi), trillions of dollars, and well you know the rest.
So I need to understand why they were wrong then, but correct now.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,260,161
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
They are saying that it is dangerous for foreign countries to know our nuclear submarine secrets. How is that even a controversial statement? It is self-evident. And again, a mistake in expertise does not negate all expertise.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 25 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,260,167
@1,260,158 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > Basically my thing is this: the countries top security experts all agreed that Saddam had WMD. He, in fact, did not. This cost many thousands of lives (American and Iraqi), trillions of dollars, and well you know the rest.
That's how science works.