Topic: First Nations
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #113,673
They weren't nations in any sense. Typically, the people insisting on this terminology are the people that place great emphasis on revering and practically worshiping these cultures. Yet casting them into European-centric political structures that they did not have and, in many cases, violently rejected is itself an extreme act of disrespect.
First Nations, indigenous peoples, Native Americans, Inuit, Eskimos, Indians. The euphemism treadmill on these topics is ridiculous.
It's almost like the terms we used forcolored people people of color.
First Nations, indigenous peoples, Native Americans, Inuit, Eskimos, Indians. The euphemism treadmill on these topics is ridiculous.
It's almost like the terms we used for
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,258,679
It wasn't even there land. They stole it from the animals.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,681
@previous (B)
Good point. And the animals stole it from the plants. And the plants stole it from the prokaryotes. And the prokaryotes stole it from the mRNA.
Good point. And the animals stole it from the plants. And the plants stole it from the prokaryotes. And the prokaryotes stole it from the mRNA.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,708
First in being gay retards 😂🖕
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,709
fuckin faggots had to WALK to America they didnt even have ships 😂
Oh yeah they never got around to inventing things like the wheel or literacy either 😂😂😂
Oh yeah they never got around to inventing things like the wheel or literacy either 😂😂😂
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,710
@1,258,708 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I'm looking forward to seeing a Department of First Gay Retard Studies open up in a Canadian university.
I'm looking forward to seeing a Department of First Gay Retard Studies open up in a Canadian university.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,711
@1,258,709 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
They knew of the wheel. Their children's toy had wheels. They just did not have a need for them in their society.
They knew of the wheel. Their children's toy had wheels. They just did not have a need for them in their society.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,714
@1,258,709 (Meta !Sober//iZs)> fuckin faggots had to WALK to America they didnt even have ships 😂
I doubt you actually care about any of this lol, but there is a possibility that some of them did come from a coastal route. Although genetic evidence does point to most of them probably traveling on land.
Some arriving via a coastal route would explain why there are so many early coastal human settlements far from the Bering strait. Also, humans have been living on remote islands across the entire Pacific ocean since ancient times, so it's not unbelievable that some of them could've made it to the Americas.
One hypothesis even suggests some "natives" were actually European! The genetic evidence certainly doesn't suggest so, but it's possible their early genetic contributions have been washed out if their populations never grew to any significant size and eventually merged with the others.
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Apparently there's general contention on when and where to use "Maya" vs "Mayan". Even in the scholarly literature the usage is all over the place.
https://www.thoughtco.com/ancient-maya-mayans-most-accepted-term-171569
Which is singular and which is plural is also surprisingly not always clear based on the usage in the literature. Probably adding to this is the fact that there arguably wasn't actually a singular "Mayan culture" or "Maya culture". They never considered themselves as belonging to any larger cohesive group.
https://www.thoughtco.com/ancient-maya-mayans-most-accepted-term-171569
Which is singular and which is plural is also surprisingly not always clear based on the usage in the literature. Probably adding to this is the fact that there arguably wasn't actually a singular "Mayan culture" or "Maya culture". They never considered themselves as belonging to any larger cohesive group.
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Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 47 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,727
@previous (A)
The actual Maya scholars have a rule: it is always "Maya" unless referring to the language, which is "Mayan".
The actual Maya scholars have a rule: it is always "Maya" unless referring to the language, which is "Mayan".
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,728
@previous (D)
The link I posted has a table of the usage in the literature showing that that isn't true.
Also, even if we were to follow such a "rule", it seems like quite an edge case since I was referring to the people in relation to the language.
The link I posted has a table of the usage in the literature showing that that isn't true.
Also, even if we were to follow such a "rule", it seems like quite an edge case since I was referring to the people in relation to the language.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,730
Also, the Mayans had a use for the wheel but never discovered it. Thanks.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,731
@1,258,728 (A)
I actually know Maya scholars at UT Austin, which is one of the world's premier Maya institutions. I was going to get a PhD in Anthropology there but decided against it. I can promise you that I know more about the Maya than anyone at Minichan.
I actually know Maya scholars at UT Austin, which is one of the world's premier Maya institutions. I was going to get a PhD in Anthropology there but decided against it. I can promise you that I know more about the Maya than anyone at Minichan.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,733
@previous (D)
Which Mayan children's toy had wheels? Post all your evidence right here.
@1,258,731 (D)
Bullshit. My dad is a professor at Universidad Autónoma de Yucatán, which is the world's leading institute (or shall I say instituto) for not only Mayan but all Mesoamerican studies.
Which Mayan children's toy had wheels? Post all your evidence right here.
@1,258,731 (D)
Bullshit. My dad is a professor at Universidad Autónoma de Yucatán, which is the world's leading institute (or shall I say instituto) for not only Mayan but all Mesoamerican studies.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,734
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,736
@previous (D)
Yes he is.
Show me the source for the image.
You were never going to get a PhD in Anthropology or anything from anywhere.
Yes he is.
Show me the source for the image.
You were never going to get a PhD in Anthropology or anything from anywhere.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,738
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boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 20 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,741
does anyone know the name of the person who made up the phrase "first nation"? It sounds like someone with a marketing degree came up with
Autphag !MLHqI35Srs joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 7 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,798
can't we just call them IQ 85 - 100 people?
nothing distinctive exists about their culture otherwise is almost what id say if i was a dick but no, there is; they're quick thinking at least
nothing distinctive exists about their culture otherwise is almost what id say if i was a dick but no, there is; they're quick thinking at least
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 2 years ago, 2 hours later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,836
@1,258,714 (A)
The point still stand that the Canada injuns had to walk because they were gay and/or retarded.
Also the Maya got their shit pushed in by illiterate Injuns so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here, exactly.
The point still stand that the Canada injuns had to walk because they were gay and/or retarded.
Also the Maya got their shit pushed in by illiterate Injuns so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here, exactly.
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,837
They spent all their time on faggy stuff like inventing "two spirit" instead of building anything of consequence.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 6 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,915
@1,258,836 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Also the Maya got their shit pushed in by illiterate Injuns so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here, exactly.
Did they? I don't think anyone really knows why the empire collapsed. May've been changing weather patterns. May've been a drought or something wrong with the crops. They could've just said "fuck it" and just headed back to the rainforest because maybe it's easier than building cities and pyramids and all that crap they were doing.
> Also the Maya got their shit pushed in by illiterate Injuns so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here, exactly.
Did they? I don't think anyone really knows why the empire collapsed. May've been changing weather patterns. May've been a drought or something wrong with the crops. They could've just said "fuck it" and just headed back to the rainforest because maybe it's easier than building cities and pyramids and all that crap they were doing.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,258,916
@1,258,837 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> They spent all their time on faggy stuff like inventing "two spirit" instead of building anything of consequence.
I suspect the two spirit stuff is probably nearly entirely a white Anglo Canadian invention. And the extent that it's not, I wonder how much the average person really bought into all that.
It's kind of like how today we have people in our society saying things we disagree with and find quite stupid. There's no reason to believe they were any less diverse amongst themselves in their views.
> They spent all their time on faggy stuff like inventing "two spirit" instead of building anything of consequence.
I suspect the two spirit stuff is probably nearly entirely a white Anglo Canadian invention. And the extent that it's not, I wonder how much the average person really bought into all that.
It's kind of like how today we have people in our society saying things we disagree with and find quite stupid. There's no reason to believe they were any less diverse amongst themselves in their views.