Topic: Kook, I have a book recommendation for you
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #113,363
"God and the Transgender Debate: What Does the Bible Actually Say about Gender Identity?" by Andrew T. Walker
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #1,255,644
She needs to just read the Bible.
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Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,656
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You are factually wrong. Religion is the driving force for most of the developments of the modern world. Look it up.
You are factually wrong. Religion is the driving force for most of the developments of the modern world. Look it up.
boof joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,660
so are aliens religious
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@previous (E)
If that was caused by religion why were the Ancient Romans, and the later Byzantine empire, seemingly unaffected? They were both pretty devout states.
If that was caused by religion why were the Ancient Romans, and the later Byzantine empire, seemingly unaffected? They were both pretty devout states.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,737
I don't care what the Bible says about anything
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,738
@1,255,728 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
In my slightly informed opinion, religious issues were largely irrelevant to why the Roman Empire, and the later Eastern Roman Empire, fell. Yes, the Romans had trouble with Christian persecutions (and later Christians persecuting pagans and rival sects), and the Eastern Romans went on to have at least one massive schism over religion. But these were never killing blows, and they kept a strong intellectual tradition. I would agree with you that their examples disprove the idea that Christianity always causes dark ages where everyone becomes retarded.
@1,255,727 (E)
I think that idea of a Christian dark age is probably a massive oversimplification tbh. There was a regression after Rome fell in Western Europe, but I think that can largely be put down to the collapse of the Roman government, and the fact that the barbarian Kings that replaced the Roman administrators just didn't have the same experience or mindset in governing and administration. At least not at first.
In my slightly informed opinion, religious issues were largely irrelevant to why the Roman Empire, and the later Eastern Roman Empire, fell. Yes, the Romans had trouble with Christian persecutions (and later Christians persecuting pagans and rival sects), and the Eastern Romans went on to have at least one massive schism over religion. But these were never killing blows, and they kept a strong intellectual tradition. I would agree with you that their examples disprove the idea that Christianity always causes dark ages where everyone becomes retarded.
@1,255,727 (E)
I think that idea of a Christian dark age is probably a massive oversimplification tbh. There was a regression after Rome fell in Western Europe, but I think that can largely be put down to the collapse of the Roman government, and the fact that the barbarian Kings that replaced the Roman administrators just didn't have the same experience or mindset in governing and administration. At least not at first.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,739
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
The idea of the Dark Ages was invented by Italian Renaissance men to make themselves seem new and better. The fact is that great feats were accomplished in the supposed Dark Ages. Think of the amazing cathedrals that were built, for example, that required advanced knowledge of math, physics, architecture, art, etc.
The idea of the Dark Ages was invented by Italian Renaissance men to make themselves seem new and better. The fact is that great feats were accomplished in the supposed Dark Ages. Think of the amazing cathedrals that were built, for example, that required advanced knowledge of math, physics, architecture, art, etc.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,740
To be clear I don't like Christianity or anything, but I do care about historical accuracy. And demonising the Christians isn't always accurate.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,741
@1,255,739 (H)
It's not entirely fictional. Like, here in Britain, there really was a dark age. Parts of the country abandoned currency for a while, and went back to bartering.
But yes, medieval engineering could be good! I once heard one historian describe it as their focus simply switching from thing like forums and statues to things like churches.
It's not entirely fictional. Like, here in Britain, there really was a dark age. Parts of the country abandoned currency for a while, and went back to bartering.
But yes, medieval engineering could be good! I once heard one historian describe it as their focus simply switching from thing like forums and statues to things like churches.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 37 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,746
@1,255,738 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
> In my slightly informed opinion, religious issues were largely irrelevant to why the Roman Empire, and the later Eastern Roman Empire, fell
Wrong. Wrong.
> Yes, the Romans had trouble with Christian persecutions (and later Christians persecuting pagans and rival sects), and the Eastern Romans went on to have at least one massive schism over religion. But these were never killing blows, and they kept a strong intellectual tradition. I would agree with you that their examples disprove the idea that Christianity always causes dark ages where everyone becomes retarded.
Wrong. Wrong.
> I think that idea of a Christian dark age is probably a massive oversimplification tbh.
You thought wrong.
> There was a regression after Rome fell in Western Europe, but I think that can largely be put down to the collapse of the Roman government, and the fact that the barbarian Kings that replaced the Roman administrators just didn't have the same experience or mindset in governing and administration. At least not at first.
Wrong. You thought wrong. Wrong.
> In my slightly informed opinion, religious issues were largely irrelevant to why the Roman Empire, and the later Eastern Roman Empire, fell
Wrong. Wrong.
> Yes, the Romans had trouble with Christian persecutions (and later Christians persecuting pagans and rival sects), and the Eastern Romans went on to have at least one massive schism over religion. But these were never killing blows, and they kept a strong intellectual tradition. I would agree with you that their examples disprove the idea that Christianity always causes dark ages where everyone becomes retarded.
Wrong. Wrong.
> I think that idea of a Christian dark age is probably a massive oversimplification tbh.
You thought wrong.
> There was a regression after Rome fell in Western Europe, but I think that can largely be put down to the collapse of the Roman government, and the fact that the barbarian Kings that replaced the Roman administrators just didn't have the same experience or mindset in governing and administration. At least not at first.
Wrong. You thought wrong. Wrong.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 34 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,747
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 24 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,748
@previous (A)
Many of God's chosen people do horrible things in that book
I'd become a worse person if I followed it
Many of God's chosen people do horrible things in that book
I'd become a worse person if I followed it
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,755
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You think you know everything, even more than the Creator. Your arrogance will be your own demise.
You think you know everything, even more than the Creator. Your arrogance will be your own demise.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,762
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@1,255,767 (A)
She can’t prove anything other than that she is a hypocrite and hasn’t actually earned anything in her life.
She can’t prove anything other than that she is a hypocrite and hasn’t actually earned anything in her life.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 second later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,771
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,777
@previous (A)
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Now go back to reading your awe inspiring texts...
And John beget Abraham, and Abraham beget Joshua
How riveting and life changing
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Now go back to reading your awe inspiring texts...
And John beget Abraham, and Abraham beget Joshua
How riveting and life changing
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,779
@1,255,772 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I’m actually not in a slightest. If I had to live life as a disgusting pig lesbian I would probably go ahead and off myself.
I’m actually not in a slightest. If I had to live life as a disgusting pig lesbian I would probably go ahead and off myself.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,783
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,255,791
@1,255,777 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Something from nothing? Sounds pretty extraordinary. Where's the proof?
Something from nothing? Sounds pretty extraordinary. Where's the proof?
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@1,255,777 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Mark 11:24 says “Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.”
And I will be praying for improvement in your mental health.
Mark 11:24 says “Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.”
And I will be praying for improvement in your mental health.
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@1,255,738 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
Yeah that's what I mean. I don't think either Christianity or Paganism were responsible for the Empire's glory and/or downfall.
Basically I think "Christianity caused the Dark Ages" is wrong, given the prosperity and achievements of majority Christian countries before and after the Dark Ages.
Yeah that's what I mean. I don't think either Christianity or Paganism were responsible for the Empire's glory and/or downfall.
Basically I think "Christianity caused the Dark Ages" is wrong, given the prosperity and achievements of majority Christian countries before and after the Dark Ages.