Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,255,137
Go to Psalm 46 and check out the 46th word from the start and the 46th word from the end (not including the 'Selah' if your copy has it). Billy was 46 when King James commissioned his finest writers of the time to tart up the book.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 14 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,255,191
Fun fact: Goodwill has a policy that religious texts like the Bible are free. You can walk into any Goodwill, grab every single Bible they have, and when you go to pay they will all ring up for $0.00. If you ever wanted to collect bibles for the meme potential and be the religious text equivalent of that guy with a refrigerator full of copies of Jurassic Park for SNES, this is a good way to do it.
> What the fuck is the significance of the King James Bible? > > It wasn't an original translation and it came much later after much of the scripture had been written.
It helped make the Christian religion much more accessible to the masses. Its poetry and imagery have had a profound effect on Western culture.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,255,236
@1,255,231 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Well, it's basically the same reason that any religion might appeal to a person. Sense of purpose, belonging, or the appeal of some higher power. And for the Christians, the Bible is their gateway into their religion.
@1,255,217 (I)
It's the most popular English Bible.
It's interesting, though. I've thought a little bit about how Christians square all of these Bible translations and variants existing. The way I see it, you have to either have some amount of leeway and think "it's all God's word and it's fine if the main message is intact", or you'd have to do some serious mental gymnastics to nail down some sort of "perfect" version of the Bible.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,255,237
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
I'm really referring to the text. It's not a book of rules for the current versions of Christianity, nor is it a particularly interesting or enlightening read
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 9 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,255,238
@1,255,235 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Exactly what I said. I want to find God and have some sort of higher purpose in my life. I’ve been living far too long with no structure, no moral code, nothing. I want to believe in something bigger than me.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,239
@1,255,237 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
The Bible is still very important to Christians, even the sects that have diverged a lot from earlier Christians. If you go to pretty much any Christian church, the pastor or whatever will be reading from it.
> nor is it a particularly interesting or enlightening read
That's entirely subjective. Also, intent matters. If you're reading it as an atheist or someone without any attachment to Christianity, no, you won't get much out of it. But if you're reading it as someone who likes Christianity for whatever reason, chances are its messages will be more appealing to you.
On a personal note, I find the Bible very interesting as a purely historical text. It gives some extremely interesting insights into the ancient culture that it came from.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,242
@1,255,239 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
They read from it but almost all of the scripture is either nonsense, child like levels of morality code with no nuance, or a written account of faulty history
Most people have to be brainwashed as a child to get anything from the Bible as an adult. Even the way preachers speak is done in a way to lull people
You reading it is different, you're not trying fo force a paranormal experience
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,244
@1,255,238 (A)
Just my opinion, disregard it if you want, but religion is not the only place to get a sense of purpose, a moral code, or a sense of structure. I understand how it can provide these things, but I think that unless you're willing to go pretty much all-in on it and truly believe in the god of the Christians, you might be better off finding these things from something more secular and less demanding.
> Exactly what I said. I want to find God and have some sort of higher purpose in my life. I’ve been living far too long with no structure, no moral code, nothing. I want to believe in something bigger than me.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,246
@1,255,239 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE) > On a personal note, I find the Bible very interesting as a purely historical text. It gives some extremely interesting insights into the ancient culture that it came from.
Name every single one of them.
@1,255,236 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE) > The way I see it, you have to either have some amount of leeway and think "it's all God's word and it's fine if the main message is intact", or you'd have to do some serious mental gymnastics to nail down some sort of "perfect" version of the Bible.
That's the tract most take. And it's not that difficult of a tract since most of the text is allegorical anyway.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,247
@1,255,242 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you that the Bible is often unappealing to outsiders, or that its morality and historicity are very open to criticism. My point is that if you're someone who wants to get into Christianity, like OP, then the Bible is a natural place to start because it's the central text of their religion. And if you're reading it with a sympathetic mindset, it'll probably appeal more.
> Just my opinion, disregard it if you want, but religion is not the only place to get a sense of purpose, a moral code, or a sense of structure. I understand how it can provide these things, but I think that unless you're willing to go pretty much all-in on it and truly believe in the god of the Christians, you might be better off finding these things from something more secular and less demanding.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,271
@1,255,247 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
Just reading the bible without an accompanying text or bible scholar to hold your hand isn't going to help anyone "get into" Christianity. Unless you have some added context it's nonsense.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,274
@previous (K)
You act like I wasn’t raised in church and don’t have a family full of Baptists. Even though I don’t plan to talk religion to my family, there’s still Reddit and 4chan for discussion of religion.
Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,279
@1,255,274 (A)
Having a family full of baptists won't give you the context to understand literally anything about the bible. You're actually starting off at a disadvantage.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,285
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yes on the first part. No on the second. Looks like the only people who've made an ass out of themselves are Merrin and you.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,291
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Ok. Obviously, I will because you've given nothing to convince anyone of anything other than you being a complete and utter ass.
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,329
@1,255,271 (K)
What added context? Knowing the basics of Christianity? Practically everybody in the western world, and many places beyond, has that.
> accompanying text or bible scholar
Not necessary these days. The Internet has been invented, and I'm sure it has plenty of Christian websites that will explain any part of the Bible that you might want to know about from a Christian viewpoint.
I'm an atheist, I've flipped through a Bible before and it indeed had zero appeal to me. I am simply making the point that of you're coming into it with a mindset that's sympathetic to Christianity, it will probably appeal to you much more.
Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 11 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,376
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
There's a hundred thousand different things in the bible that make zero sense without added context. Sure, there's the Internet but that can be considered an accompanying text. Here's the shocker: you don't know what you don't know. Someone opening the bible for the first time has no idea that a rock isn't just a rock or that a tree isn't just a tree or thousands of other parables and metaphors are hiding in there that will make zero sense to a modern reader. And then there's the fact that bible has been gutted and rewritten so many times. Reading just the bible is nearly pointless.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,380
@1,255,329 (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE) @previous (K)
I don't know if I'd agree that reading the Bible alone won't help someone "get into" Christianity (plenty of people find their own meaning in the text) but I agree it's best read with accompanying text, whether that's online or incorporated (like a decent study bible) or something else. There's far too much to miss otherwise. Even just for fun; there's wordplay that only works in Aramaic for example lol (Mark 2:27-28).
Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 2 years ago, 59 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,395
@1,255,376 (K)
Well, I think we'll just have to agree to disagree. I'm fairly sure that anyone who believes that the Bible is a gateway to a higher power, and has access to the Internet to do basic research as needed, would likely get what they're looking for out of it.
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Philemon 1:11 is a good bit of Biblical wordplay I've heard of, which apparently never quite makes it out of translation. Paul is discussing a slave whose name can be translated as "Useful", so the passage could he read as something like "Formerly Useful was useless to you, but now he has become useful both to you and to me".
Anonymous K replied with this 2 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,255,432
@previous (Killer Lettuce🌹 !HonkUK.BIE)
So your super great argument against using an accompanying text is that @OP must be schizophrenic and will have a wild epiphany about every random page they flip to, so they shouldn't bother approaching the book with any academic interest?
> >On a personal note, I find the Bible very interesting as a purely historical text. It gives some extremely interesting insights into the ancient culture that it came from. > Name every single one of them. > > > >The way I see it, you have to either have some amount of leeway and think "it's all God's word and it's fine if the main message is intact", or you'd have to do some serious mental gymnastics to nail down some sort of "perfect" version of the Bible. > That's the tract most take. And it's not that difficult of a tract since most of the text is allegorical anyway.
> > Just my opinion, disregard it if you want, but religion is not the only place to get a sense of purpose, a moral code, or a sense of structure. I understand how it can provide these things, but I think that unless you're willing to go pretty much all-in on it and truly believe in the god of the Christians, you might be better off finding these things from something more secular and less demanding. > > Very Übermensch of you.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,255,510
@1,255,508 (O) > come in with shitty one-liners > waste several minutes quoting multiple days worth of posts to make a "point" > claim to not be the joke
Get a life.
Anonymous O replied with this 2 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,255,514
@previous (D)
Lmao this is my fourth post in this thread and I don't think any of them were one liners besides the last one maybe although I am just shitposting