Topic: Let's post our Political Compass results!
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF started this discussion 15 years ago #11,149
Because why not? :DAlready posted mine in another thread, but here they are again.
http://politicalcompass.org/
Edit: and by results, I mean the actual graph, please.
(Edited 8 minutes later.)
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later[^] [v] #200,097
6 pages of questions? Mother fuckers.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,099
+1 to the right and +2 vertically, for me
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,100
@200,097 (B)
Most of them are short and easy to answer. You should already know things like whether you support gay marriage or not. There's only a handful of questions that require actual thinking.
Most of them are short and easy to answer. You should already know things like whether you support gay marriage or not. There's only a handful of questions that require actual thinking.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,101
@200,099 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
Exactly? I've never seen anyone get an exact result before. Graphs, please. :D
Exactly? I've never seen anyone get an exact result before. Graphs, please. :D
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,103
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Fuck your shit. I’m not filling out the survey again and I have a photographic memory. Of course it wasn’t exact, but it’s close to Ghandi’s supposed results.
Fuck your shit. I’m not filling out the survey again and I have a photographic memory. Of course it wasn’t exact, but it’s close to Ghandi’s supposed results.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,104
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,106
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,107
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,108
@200,104 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Yes. Photographic memory and ±1 accuracy (on this scale) are still congruent, bud.
Yes. Photographic memory and ±1 accuracy (on this scale) are still congruent, bud.
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Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,109
@200,100 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)Still annoying as Hell. I really don't think this is accurate whatsoever but I guess it's in the ballpark.
!VoCaLoNunI joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,110
-2.62, -2.72
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,113
@previous (!VoCaLoNunI)Graphified for you. Will be happy to do for anyone else if you don't want to bother with the image saving process.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,115
Interesting. More or less what I was expecting.(Edited 18 seconds later.)
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,116
Economic Left/Right: -5.88Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.21
I went quickly and my answers were a bit extreme. I’m really a bit closer to center.
!VoCaLoNunI replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,117
@200,113 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
I have it saved under the name "I have no idea what this means.gif". I think it's fairly appropriate.
I have it saved under the name "I have no idea what this means.gif". I think it's fairly appropriate.
Fox !FXYGNx1XR. joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,118
x 2, y 0
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,123
@200,116 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
Thank you.
@previous (Fox !FXYGNx1XR.)
I highly doubt that that is exact as well.
Thank you.
@previous (Fox !FXYGNx1XR.)
I highly doubt that that is exact as well.
Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,124
Compared to this older one, I am slightly more Libertarian than I was around year ago.(Edited 22 seconds later.)
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,131
Why is everyone so left?@previous (Killer Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx)
David Cameron will be very disappointed in you. :')
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,135
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InterestingKiller Lettuce !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 15 years ago, 4 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,138
Fox !FXYGNx1XR. replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,139
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,143
@200,131 (SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN.)
> Why is everyone so left?
Because these questions are a bit soft. They ask if something is good/bad (agree/disagree) but fail to address subtleties about why it’s good or bad.
Yes, openness of sexuality as seen on Jersey Shore is a bit much “these days,†but no, in general, sexual openness is good. Ya see?
> Why is everyone so left?
Because these questions are a bit soft. They ask if something is good/bad (agree/disagree) but fail to address subtleties about why it’s good or bad.
Yes, openness of sexuality as seen on Jersey Shore is a bit much “these days,†but no, in general, sexual openness is good. Ya see?
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,145
@200,131 (SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN.)
The internet is significantly more liberal than real world polls would suggest the general population is. Younger people use the internet significantly more than older people, and conservatism tends to skew higher with age. It doesn't render your views invalid or in the minority, all things considered.
The internet is significantly more liberal than real world polls would suggest the general population is. Younger people use the internet significantly more than older people, and conservatism tends to skew higher with age. It doesn't render your views invalid or in the minority, all things considered.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,146
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,148
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,149
Left'n LiberalLatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,151
@200,136 (Aileron !LUFRSd346Y)
If this isn't a joke, that's the most interesting result I've seen yet. You're too centered economically to inspire much faith in its legitimacy, though.
If this isn't a joke, that's the most interesting result I've seen yet. You're too centered economically to inspire much faith in its legitimacy, though.
Aileron !LUFRSd346Y replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,152
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,155
@200,151 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
@200,148 (B)
He’s legit. Old money, white, political science bro :-)
@200,148 (B)
He’s legit. Old money, white, political science bro :-)
SQUARED :3 !L.....AlN. replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,163
Aileron !LUFRSd346Y replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,166
@200,151 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Tried my best to answer honestly. I tend to fall pretty near the middle on the economic issues which is hard because it engenders little sympathy from partisans on either side.
Tried my best to answer honestly. I tend to fall pretty near the middle on the economic issues which is hard because it engenders little sympathy from partisans on either side.
Aileron !LUFRSd346Y double-posted this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,170
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,174
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,179
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I got really close to GandhiAnonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,199
Anonymous K double-posted this 15 years ago, 47 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,201
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87
...
wonder where psychopath lies
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.87
...
wonder where psychopath lies
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,202
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,203
@200,199 (K)
Correct.
> wonder where psychopath lies
where his daddy’s talk radio tells him to
Correct.
> wonder where psychopath lies
where his daddy’s talk radio tells him to
(Edited 30 seconds later.)
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,206
Anonymous B replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,207
@200,201 (K)
> wonder where psychopath lies
he lies everywhere because he's an idiot. i thought we went over this.
> wonder where psychopath lies
he lies everywhere because he's an idiot. i thought we went over this.
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,228
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #200,232
Voice of !WisdomHsuU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #200,281
Voice of !WisdomHsuU double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #200,284
@200,203 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
@200,207 (B)
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
XD
@200,207 (B)
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
XD
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!VoCaLoNunI replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,314
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 37 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,369
StatistSocialist3000 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,402
from what i remember the question are stupid and not framed politically
like do you support gay marriage?
no i don't. do i advocate the state prevent gay marriage.
no i don't. from what i remember its like that the whole way through the test.
like do you support gay marriage?
no i don't. do i advocate the state prevent gay marriage.
no i don't. from what i remember its like that the whole way through the test.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,409
@previous (StatistSocialist3000)
The test is deliberately worded to work around problems such as that. All the questions in the test question solely opinion. The five questions that can be relevant to homosexuality:
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
> A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.
> Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
> What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
> No one can feel naturally homosexual.
The test is deliberately worded to work around problems such as that. All the questions in the test question solely opinion. The five questions that can be relevant to homosexuality:
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
> A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.
> Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
> What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
> No one can feel naturally homosexual.
Freecode !!4IKKtS9GG joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,415
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,419
@200,409 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.
> Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
> What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
Only these three are political questions.
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
> No one can feel naturally homosexual.
These are not political questions. As such they do not belong on a test of one's political opinions.
> A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.
> Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
> What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
Only these three are political questions.
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
> No one can feel naturally homosexual.
These are not political questions. As such they do not belong on a test of one's political opinions.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,438
@previous (StatistSocialist3000)
The latter two are used to infer the respondent's social views, generally, and then given extra weight if the response indicates a strong opinion, which infers how likely the respondent is to accept state intervention in private social affairs.
The latter two are used to infer the respondent's social views, generally, and then given extra weight if the response indicates a strong opinion, which infers how likely the respondent is to accept state intervention in private social affairs.
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,441
@previous (O)
> which infers how likely the respondent is to accept state intervention in private social affairs.
No, it doesn't.
Social views are irrelevant to a political compass. They belong on a social compass.
> which infers how likely the respondent is to accept state intervention in private social affairs.
No, it doesn't.
Social views are irrelevant to a political compass. They belong on a social compass.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,443
@previous (StatistSocialist3000)
The Political Compass measures both economics and societal beliefs. Hence, the four quadrants.
The Political Compass measures both economics and societal beliefs. Hence, the four quadrants.
Freecode !!4IKKtS9GG replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,452
I believe no one can feel naturally homosexual, but I can respect those who feel differently and that does not make homosexuality a bad thing. Same sex couples should be able to adopt children, though the social implications should be considered and the social background of the child. Pornography between consensual adults is a strong yes. What goes on in one's private home is a strong yes. Sex outside of marriage is a strong yes.
Freecode !!4IKKtS9GG double-posted this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,454
@200,441 (StatistSocialist3000)
> Social views are irrelevant to a political compass. They belong on a social compass.
So welfare is not a political issue as well as a social one?
> Social views are irrelevant to a political compass. They belong on a social compass.
So welfare is not a political issue as well as a social one?
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,459
@200,443 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
There aren't 4 quadrants. There is only the belief the the state has power over the individual, or that the state doesn't have power over the individual. Everything else is on that line.
There aren't 4 quadrants. There is only the belief the the state has power over the individual, or that the state doesn't have power over the individual. Everything else is on that line.
Anonymous O replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,460
@200,441 (StatistSocialist3000)
Correct. The vertical axis of "authoritarian to libertarian" comprises various beliefs on social positions. In aggregate, the specific examples can provide a composite score of responses—social and political—for this vertical axis.
Correct. The vertical axis of "authoritarian to libertarian" comprises various beliefs on social positions. In aggregate, the specific examples can provide a composite score of responses—social and political—for this vertical axis.
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,462
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,463
@200,454 (Freecode !!4IKKtS9GG)
wtf? Welfare (as in, state confiscation and reallocation of wealth) is unquestionably a political issue.
Private charity is a social issue.
wtf? Welfare (as in, state confiscation and reallocation of wealth) is unquestionably a political issue.
Private charity is a social issue.
Anonymous O replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,465
@previous (StatistSocialist3000)
> extending the definitions of terms to their most strict and uncommon forms
Oh, okay.
> extending the definitions of terms to their most strict and uncommon forms
Oh, okay.
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,466
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 second later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,467
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,469
@previous (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Calling someone names is a great way to start a conversation!
I have been explaining how the political compass is fundamentally flawed and why people should stop using it.
Calling someone names is a great way to start a conversation!
I have been explaining how the political compass is fundamentally flawed and why people should stop using it.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,473
@previous (StatistSocialist3000)
You're free not to use it, however I'm sure others are capable of thinking for themselves. Kindly stop derailing this thread with your nonsense.
You're free not to use it, however I'm sure others are capable of thinking for themselves. Kindly stop derailing this thread with your nonsense.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,475
@200,469 (StatistSocialist3000)
Durr few believe it's perfect or accurate but it at least gives us common ground to see similarities and discuss the subtleties in our beliefs to break down the dichotomy of normal people and tired fools like yourself.
Durr few believe it's perfect or accurate but it at least gives us common ground to see similarities and discuss the subtleties in our beliefs to break down the dichotomy of normal people and tired fools like yourself.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,477
@200,415 (Freecode !!4IKKtS9GG)
This result interests me. You are one of only two people I've ever seen placed into the purple quadrant (albeit barely, economically); the grand majority of results seem to be on a straight line between the green and blue quadrants. I still haven't seen a single red quadrant result yet (if you don't count Aileron's almost perfectly centered result).
This result interests me. You are one of only two people I've ever seen placed into the purple quadrant (albeit barely, economically); the grand majority of results seem to be on a straight line between the green and blue quadrants. I still haven't seen a single red quadrant result yet (if you don't count Aileron's almost perfectly centered result).
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Wade Wilson !IOdbnXsKDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,478
Economic Left/Right: -2.62Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87
i guess im not suprised
god damnit, i got the wrong picture.....
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LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,483
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,491
@200,473 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
Your refusal to discuss the issue displays an unwillingness to think for yourself, and an attempt to squash independent thought on the issue. If you do not wish to discuss this issue, don't reply to me. Simple!
Your refusal to discuss the issue displays an unwillingness to think for yourself, and an attempt to squash independent thought on the issue. If you do not wish to discuss this issue, don't reply to me. Simple!
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,500
Wade Wilson !IOdbnXsKDk replied with this 15 years ago, 3 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,501
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,504
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,505
@200,475 (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
It actually gives no common ground and certainly does not allow one to discuss the subtleties of one's beliefs. It asks a series of non political questions and assigns you a position on a misleading grid.
A thread asking people opinions on 5 random issues would be far more helpful in discussing subtleties etc.
Depending on how I interpret the questions I am either bottom left or bottom right. Ridiculous if you ask me.
It actually gives no common ground and certainly does not allow one to discuss the subtleties of one's beliefs. It asks a series of non political questions and assigns you a position on a misleading grid.
A thread asking people opinions on 5 random issues would be far more helpful in discussing subtleties etc.
Depending on how I interpret the questions I am either bottom left or bottom right. Ridiculous if you ask me.
StatistSocialist3000 double-posted this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,506
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,507
Please stop feeding the trolls, if you would be so kind. TB3k has proven that he just wants to see how long he can make this go on for.
Although...
> A thread asking people opinions on 5 random issues would be far more helpful in discussing subtleties etc.
I like this idea. Anyone have suggestions?
Although...
> A thread asking people opinions on 5 random issues would be far more helpful in discussing subtleties etc.
I like this idea. Anyone have suggestions?
!VoCaLoNunI replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,508
I think that Carebear is a very valuable poster and make quality contributions to the board in the form of disgusting topics.(Edited 45 seconds later.)
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,510
!VoCaLoNunI replied with this 15 years ago, 50 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,513
@200,508 (!VoCaLoNunI)
WAHT
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE OTHER THREAD
MODS CLEAN UP PLEASE
TAKE MOUNTAINMAN WITH YOU
WAHT
THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE OTHER THREAD
MODS CLEAN UP PLEASE
TAKE MOUNTAINMAN WITH YOU
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,522
@200,507 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> TB3k has proven that he just wants to see how long he can make this go on for.
This is a lie, and you know it. I have given serious reasons for my objection to and distaste for the Political Compass.
> TB3k has proven that he just wants to see how long he can make this go on for.
This is a lie, and you know it. I have given serious reasons for my objection to and distaste for the Political Compass.
StatistSocialist3000 double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,523
@200,510 (Ks !KansasxqvM)
yeah or things like where some of the massive corporations pay negative tax i.e. the irs gives them money instead of taking money
yeah or things like where some of the massive corporations pay negative tax i.e. the irs gives them money instead of taking money
KBR !sJ6B5l9wzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 17 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,926
Rawrf.Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 29 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,991
Joining the Liberal Libertarian crowd.StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #200,998
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> liberal libertarian
Lol there's only one libertarian square on that grid - purple
> liberal libertarian
Lol there's only one libertarian square on that grid - purple
KBR !!7Enb4sycc replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #201,000
@previous (StatistSocialist3000)
AFAIK, the further you get from -10, -10, the more oppressive you get.
Well, almost.
Abolition of the state seems ridiculous unless humanity becomes a hivemind.
AFAIK, the further you get from -10, -10, the more oppressive you get.
Well, almost.
Abolition of the state seems ridiculous unless humanity becomes a hivemind.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #201,005
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #201,095
Reported this thread for illegal cloning.
Aileron !LUFRSd346Y replied with this 15 years ago, 59 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,160
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,163
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,188
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85
Born this Way !dLadyGAgAA double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,193
cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,206
[same moderately leftish-libertarian graph everyone else posted]
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,213
@previous (cccuuunnttt !nIGga.SL0w)
The position on the chart is still interesting to see for each unique viewer.
The position on the chart is still interesting to see for each unique viewer.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,215
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LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,300
I got the results in the original post a small while ago. I took the test again for the most accurate results possible. Also, since no one has decided to do so thus far, I logged my answers to publish here. Hopefully you find it interesting in some small way.If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations.
Strongly agree
I'd always support my country, whether it was right or wrong.
Strongly disagree
No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it.
Agree
Our race has many superior qualities, compared with other races.
Strongly disagree
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Disagree
Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified.
Strongly disagree
There is now a worrying fusion of information and entertainment.
Agree
People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality.
Agree
Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.
Agree
Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation.
Strongly agree
"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a fundamentally good idea.
Agree
It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product.
Disagree
Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.
Disagree
It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society.
Agree
Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade.
Agree
The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders.
Strongly disagree
The rich are too highly taxed.
Strongly disagree
Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care .
Strongly disagree
Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public.
Strongly agree
A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies.
Strongly agree
The freer the market, the freer the people.
Strongly agree
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,302
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal.
Strongly disagree
All authority should be questioned.
Agree
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
'"Strongly disagree'''
Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis.
Disagree
Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory.
Strongly disagree
All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
Strongly disagree
Good parents sometimes have to spank their children.
Strongly disagree
It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents.
Strongly agree
Possessing marijuana for personal use should not be a criminal offence.
Strongly agree
The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs.
Disagree
People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
Agree
The most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline.
Disagree
There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
Strongly disagree
Those who are able to work, and refuse the opportunity, should not expect society's support.
Disagree
When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.
Agree
First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country.
Strongly disagree
What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.
Strongly disagree
No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding.
Strongly disagree
Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism.
Strongly agree
A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
Disagree
Although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried.
Strongly disagree
The death penalty should be an option for the most serious crimes.
Strongly disagree
In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.
Agree
Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
Strongly disagree
In criminal justice, punishment should be more important than rehabilitation.
Strongly disagree
It is a waste of time to try to rehabilitate some criminals.
Strongly disagree
Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal.
Strongly disagree
All authority should be questioned.
Agree
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.
'"Strongly disagree'''
Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis.
Disagree
Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory.
Strongly disagree
All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind.
Strongly disagree
Good parents sometimes have to spank their children.
Strongly disagree
It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents.
Strongly agree
Possessing marijuana for personal use should not be a criminal offence.
Strongly agree
The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs.
Disagree
People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce.
Agree
The most important thing for children to learn is to accept discipline.
Disagree
There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
Strongly disagree
Those who are able to work, and refuse the opportunity, should not expect society's support.
Disagree
When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things.
Agree
First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country.
Strongly disagree
What's good for the most successful corporations is always, ultimately, good for all of us.
Strongly disagree
No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding.
Strongly disagree
Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism.
Strongly agree
A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system.
Disagree
Although the electronic age makes official surveillance easier, only wrongdoers need to be worried.
Strongly disagree
The death penalty should be an option for the most serious crimes.
Strongly disagree
In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.
Agree
Abstract art that doesn't represent anything shouldn't be considered art at all.
Strongly disagree
In criminal justice, punishment should be more important than rehabilitation.
Strongly disagree
It is a waste of time to try to rehabilitate some criminals.
Strongly disagree
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,303
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.
Strongly disagree
Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
Strongly disagree
Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries.
Strongly agree
Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.
Agree
Astrology accurately explains many things.
Disagree
You cannot be moral without being religious.
Strongly disagree
Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.
Disagree
Some people are naturally unlucky.
Disagree
It is important that my child's school instills religious values.
Strongly disagree
Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
Strongly disagree
A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.
Strongly agree
Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
Strongly agree
What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
Strongly agree
No one can feel naturally homosexual.
Strongly disagree
These days openness about sex has gone too far.
Strongly disagree
The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.
Strongly disagree
Mothers may have careers, but their first duty is to be homemakers.
Strongly disagree
Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries.
Strongly agree
Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.
Agree
Astrology accurately explains many things.
Disagree
You cannot be moral without being religious.
Strongly disagree
Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.
Disagree
Some people are naturally unlucky.
Disagree
It is important that my child's school instills religious values.
Strongly disagree
Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.
Strongly disagree
A same sex couple in a stable, loving relationship, should not be excluded from the possibility of child adoption.
Strongly agree
Pornography, depicting consenting adults, should be legal for the adult population.
Strongly agree
What goes on in a private bedroom between consenting adults is no business of the state.
Strongly agree
No one can feel naturally homosexual.
Strongly disagree
These days openness about sex has gone too far.
Strongly disagree
Homestar !RUNNERV7vk replied with this 15 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,398
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> >Good parents sometimes have to spank their children.
> Strongly disagree
This question is poorly worded, IMHO. Do you think parent's should be allowed to?
> >There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
> Strongly disagree
Can you explain?
> >The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.
> Strongly disagree
Do you think artistic people are more important than practical ones?
> >Some people are naturally unlucky.
> Disagree
But some people are born into pretty shitty circumstances, right?
> >Good parents sometimes have to spank their children.
> Strongly disagree
This question is poorly worded, IMHO. Do you think parent's should be allowed to?
> >There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures.
> Strongly disagree
Can you explain?
> >The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.
> Strongly disagree
Do you think artistic people are more important than practical ones?
> >Some people are naturally unlucky.
> Disagree
But some people are born into pretty shitty circumstances, right?
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LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,421
@previous (Homestar !RUNNERV7vk)
> Do you think parent's should be allowed to?
Not... really. There is definitely a threshold between "light physical correction" and "child abuse." It probably needs to be determined on a case-by-case basis.
> Can you explain?
The question states "no savage... peoples," specifically. There is a point where that's true (American, British and Japanese culture are all markedly different from each other, but are equally civilized), but there's definitely a point where it isn't. The example that hits my mind first and hardest is FGM in some cultures; I am aware that the practitioners feel as if there is a legitimate need to do so, but... there isn't. It's born purely of ignorance and, in my opinion, a "savage" civilization. I wouldn't choose terminology quite that harsh myself, but it does fit the question.
> Do you think artistic people are more important than practical ones?
No, but the inverse isn't true, either.
> But some people are born into pretty shitty circumstances, right?
Yes, of course. I didn't interpret "luck" in that question to be referring to circumstances such as that. I was thinking of the more arbitrary/random definitions of "luck."
> Do you think parent's should be allowed to?
Not... really. There is definitely a threshold between "light physical correction" and "child abuse." It probably needs to be determined on a case-by-case basis.
> Can you explain?
The question states "no savage... peoples," specifically. There is a point where that's true (American, British and Japanese culture are all markedly different from each other, but are equally civilized), but there's definitely a point where it isn't. The example that hits my mind first and hardest is FGM in some cultures; I am aware that the practitioners feel as if there is a legitimate need to do so, but... there isn't. It's born purely of ignorance and, in my opinion, a "savage" civilization. I wouldn't choose terminology quite that harsh myself, but it does fit the question.
> Do you think artistic people are more important than practical ones?
No, but the inverse isn't true, either.
> But some people are born into pretty shitty circumstances, right?
Yes, of course. I didn't interpret "luck" in that question to be referring to circumstances such as that. I was thinking of the more arbitrary/random definitions of "luck."
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 54 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,455
@201,000 (KBR !!7Enb4sycc)
> Abolition of the state seems ridiculous unless humanity becomes a hivemind.
How does that even make sense... Unless everyone is exactly the same we should authorize some people to use force to coerce people into being the same? What a disgusting idea.
> Abolition of the state seems ridiculous unless humanity becomes a hivemind.
How does that even make sense... Unless everyone is exactly the same we should authorize some people to use force to coerce people into being the same? What a disgusting idea.
StatistSocialist3000 double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,456
@201,005 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The entire left side of the graph requires the state to confiscate and reallocate wealth. This is not libertarian.
The top right of the graph requires the state to enforce morality. This is not libertarian.
Only the bottom right is libertarian.
The entire left side of the graph requires the state to confiscate and reallocate wealth. This is not libertarian.
The top right of the graph requires the state to enforce morality. This is not libertarian.
Only the bottom right is libertarian.
StatistSocialist3000 triple-posted this 15 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,477
@201,300 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations. Strongly agree
Non-political question. Implicit in the question is the idea that government confiscation of property from individuals helps humanity, despite it obviously hurting humanity by the exact same amount - more when you factor in loss of rights and liberty, destruction of free market etc.
> No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it. Agree
Poorly worded question. It is foolish to be proud of a country only because you were born there, but there are other reasons to be proud of a country.
> Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified. Strongly disagree
I don't know that I'd strongly disagree. It would justifiable to rebel against corrupt or evil international organizations.
> People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality. Agree
What do you mean by class? What do you mean by nationality?
> Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment. Agree
It annoys me to no end when people think that it is the role of government to find people jobs!
> Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation. Strongly agree
Surely you recognize that 'voluntarily protecting the environment' and 'regulation' is a false dichotomy?
> "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a fundamentally good idea. Agree
It is a fundamentally good idea. Authorizing the state to take and give is not, though, yet that is implicit in the question.
> It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product. Disagree
Not a political question.
> Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold. Disagree
Have you read much about Georgism? It seems pretty interesting.
> It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society. Agree
Implying that their financial services contribute nothing to society (not true)
> Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade. Agree
Please justify this with examples!
> The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders. Strongly disagree
Not a political question. I believe people should act morally, but do not believe that state should force them to do so.
> Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care. Strongly disagree
How can you possibly justify this? Tall poppy syndrome?
> Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public. Strongly agree
The question seems to imply more than just lawsuits by consumers. It seems to imply a department of bureaucrats and regulation and inspectors &c.
> A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies. Strongly agree
This is immediately a stupid statement. "Free market" means free from regulation. To rephrase the question: "A market genuinely free from regulation requires regulation on the ability..."
> The freer the market, the freer the people. Strongly agree
If only you supported free markets then!
> If economic globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations. Strongly agree
Non-political question. Implicit in the question is the idea that government confiscation of property from individuals helps humanity, despite it obviously hurting humanity by the exact same amount - more when you factor in loss of rights and liberty, destruction of free market etc.
> No one chooses his or her country of birth, so it's foolish to be proud of it. Agree
Poorly worded question. It is foolish to be proud of a country only because you were born there, but there are other reasons to be proud of a country.
> Military action that defies international law is sometimes justified. Strongly disagree
I don't know that I'd strongly disagree. It would justifiable to rebel against corrupt or evil international organizations.
> People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality. Agree
What do you mean by class? What do you mean by nationality?
> Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment. Agree
It annoys me to no end when people think that it is the role of government to find people jobs!
> Because corporations cannot be trusted to voluntarily protect the environment, they require regulation. Strongly agree
Surely you recognize that 'voluntarily protecting the environment' and 'regulation' is a false dichotomy?
> "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a fundamentally good idea. Agree
It is a fundamentally good idea. Authorizing the state to take and give is not, though, yet that is implicit in the question.
> It's a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product. Disagree
Not a political question.
> Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold. Disagree
Have you read much about Georgism? It seems pretty interesting.
> It is regrettable that many personal fortunes are made by people who simply manipulate money and contribute nothing to their society. Agree
Implying that their financial services contribute nothing to society (not true)
> Protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade. Agree
Please justify this with examples!
> The only social responsibility of a company should be to deliver a profit to its shareholders. Strongly disagree
Not a political question. I believe people should act morally, but do not believe that state should force them to do so.
> Those with the ability to pay should have the right to higher standards of medical care. Strongly disagree
How can you possibly justify this? Tall poppy syndrome?
> Governments should penalise businesses that mislead the public. Strongly agree
The question seems to imply more than just lawsuits by consumers. It seems to imply a department of bureaucrats and regulation and inspectors &c.
> A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies. Strongly agree
This is immediately a stupid statement. "Free market" means free from regulation. To rephrase the question: "A market genuinely free from regulation requires regulation on the ability..."
> The freer the market, the freer the people. Strongly agree
If only you supported free markets then!
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,479
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,483
@previous (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
You can not seriously be attempting to imply that the two are equitable. (Yes, I do think that circumcision is a terrible, outdated practice that needs to end, but it's beyond ridiculous to think that the two are on equal ground.)
You can not seriously be attempting to imply that the two are equitable. (Yes, I do think that circumcision is a terrible, outdated practice that needs to end, but it's beyond ridiculous to think that the two are on equal ground.)
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,485
Voice of !WisdomHsuU replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,489
@201,483 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Not all FGM involves the removal of the clit, and botched circumcision may result in loss of glans.
Not all FGM involves the removal of the clit, and botched circumcision may result in loss of glans.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,490
@201,485 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
He'll never post his results... funny because all he ever talks about is politics, religion, and pedophilia. That's it. Don't even bother lol.
He'll never post his results... funny because all he ever talks about is politics, religion, and pedophilia. That's it. Don't even bother lol.
StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,500
@201,302 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal. Strongly disagree
Please explain your take on the morality of abortion. i.e. if there's anyone famous arguments you favor, etc.
> An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.'"Strongly disagree'''
I think this is a great idea for maximum sentences i.e. no capital punishment for property crimes &c.
> Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis. Disagree
Please justify. It seems that you do not care about liberty - only about a few activities that are currently forbidden. We differ in that I care about liberty for its own sake.
> Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory. Strongly disagree
Can't think of anything more inimical to liberty than compulsory ANYTHING. Why do you call yourself a libertarian?
> All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind. Strongly disagree
Not a political question. It is great when like minded people get together and form communities and live how they want. The nudist will be much more at home with other nudists than in a clothed suburb &c.
> Good parents sometimes have to spank their children. Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents. Strongly agree
Not a political question.
> The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs. Disagree
I hate how people talk about "jobs". There is more to the market, the economy and wealth generation than "jobs".
> People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce. Agree
Here's when your so called "economic freedom" spills over into your "personal freedom" (there is no such distinction - there is only freedom): you can not allow such people to drain your socialized economy and so you empower the state to prevent people from having children. I would like to see you justify this.
> Those who are able to work, and refuse the opportunity, should not expect society's support. Disagree
Unclear question: appears to be equating society with the state (clearly an idiotic idea). If you interpreted this question as meaning state: lolwtf?!?!
> When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things. Agree
Not a political question.
> First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country. Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding. Strongly disagree
I don't get you. How do you justify taking someone's stuff and giving it to someone else? Antithetical to liberty.
> A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system. Disagree
Not a political question. How can you disagree with this statement? The constitutions of both of our countries were specifically intended to guard against sudden populist movements: they were designed to delay progress.
> In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded. Agree
lolwtf this question alone should put you above the line. Are you joking??
> Abortion, when the woman's life is not threatened, should always be illegal. Strongly disagree
Please explain your take on the morality of abortion. i.e. if there's anyone famous arguments you favor, etc.
> An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.'"Strongly disagree'''
I think this is a great idea for maximum sentences i.e. no capital punishment for property crimes &c.
> Taxpayers should not be expected to prop up any theatres or museums that cannot survive on a commercial basis. Disagree
Please justify. It seems that you do not care about liberty - only about a few activities that are currently forbidden. We differ in that I care about liberty for its own sake.
> Schools should not make classroom attendance compulsory. Strongly disagree
Can't think of anything more inimical to liberty than compulsory ANYTHING. Why do you call yourself a libertarian?
> All people have their rights, but it is better for all of us that different sorts of people should keep to their own kind. Strongly disagree
Not a political question. It is great when like minded people get together and form communities and live how they want. The nudist will be much more at home with other nudists than in a clothed suburb &c.
> Good parents sometimes have to spank their children. Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> It's natural for children to keep some secrets from their parents. Strongly agree
Not a political question.
> The prime function of schooling should be to equip the future generation to find jobs. Disagree
I hate how people talk about "jobs". There is more to the market, the economy and wealth generation than "jobs".
> People with serious inheritable disabilities should not be allowed to reproduce. Agree
Here's when your so called "economic freedom" spills over into your "personal freedom" (there is no such distinction - there is only freedom): you can not allow such people to drain your socialized economy and so you empower the state to prevent people from having children. I would like to see you justify this.
> Those who are able to work, and refuse the opportunity, should not expect society's support. Disagree
Unclear question: appears to be equating society with the state (clearly an idiotic idea). If you interpreted this question as meaning state: lolwtf?!?!
> When you are troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things. Agree
Not a political question.
> First-generation immigrants can never be fully integrated within their new country. Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> No broadcasting institution, however independent its content, should receive public funding. Strongly disagree
I don't get you. How do you justify taking someone's stuff and giving it to someone else? Antithetical to liberty.
> A significant advantage of a one-party state is that it avoids all the arguments that delay progress in a democratic political system. Disagree
Not a political question. How can you disagree with this statement? The constitutions of both of our countries were specifically intended to guard against sudden populist movements: they were designed to delay progress.
> In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded. Agree
lolwtf this question alone should put you above the line. Are you joking??
StatistSocialist3000 double-posted this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,508
@201,303 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.Strongly disagree
Not a political question. The business and the manufacturer enable the writer and the artist. In that sense they are more important; one being necessary for the existence of the other.
> Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries.Strongly agree
Not a political question. I'd like to hear a bit more about your views on this matter.
> Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.Agree
wtf
> Astrology accurately explains many things. Disagree
Not a political question.
> You cannot be moral without being religious.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.Disagree
Why do you disagree with this statement?
> Some people are naturally unlucky.Disagree
Not a political question.
> It is important that my child's school instills religious values.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> No one can feel naturally homosexual. Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> These days openness about sex has gone too far.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> The businessperson and the manufacturer are more important than the writer and the artist.Strongly disagree
Not a political question. The business and the manufacturer enable the writer and the artist. In that sense they are more important; one being necessary for the existence of the other.
> Multinational companies are unethically exploiting the plant genetic resources of developing countries.Strongly agree
Not a political question. I'd like to hear a bit more about your views on this matter.
> Making peace with the establishment is an important aspect of maturity.Agree
wtf
> Astrology accurately explains many things. Disagree
Not a political question.
> You cannot be moral without being religious.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> Charity is better than social security as a means of helping the genuinely disadvantaged.Disagree
Why do you disagree with this statement?
> Some people are naturally unlucky.Disagree
Not a political question.
> It is important that my child's school instills religious values.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> Sex outside marriage is usually immoral.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> No one can feel naturally homosexual. Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
> These days openness about sex has gone too far.Strongly disagree
Not a political question.
StatistSocialist3000 triple-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,510
@201,485 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
My views can not be expressed through this quiz.
For example, I would argue sex outside marriage is usually immoral, but I oppose legislation on the matter - yet the quiz would clearly interpret this as me supporting legislation.
I prefer discussing the actual issues.
My views can not be expressed through this quiz.
For example, I would argue sex outside marriage is usually immoral, but I oppose legislation on the matter - yet the quiz would clearly interpret this as me supporting legislation.
I prefer discussing the actual issues.
Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,518
@201,302 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
> In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.
> Agree
From your posts thus far, this is a little surprising. How did you interpret this question?
> In a civilised society, one must always have people above to be obeyed and people below to be commanded.
> Agree
From your posts thus far, this is a little surprising. How did you interpret this question?
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,525
@previous (W)
Simply because I literally cannot think of a single way a completely equal society could function. I can't interpret it as questioning your views on anything other than anarchy. Should the police not have the ability to command others? Should congress (or your governmental equivalent) not have the ability to make laws for others to obey? You might think I'm taking this question in an overly-grandiose fashion, but it specifically mentions "civilized society." Society in general. This isn't targeting small local organizations.
Simply because I literally cannot think of a single way a completely equal society could function. I can't interpret it as questioning your views on anything other than anarchy. Should the police not have the ability to command others? Should congress (or your governmental equivalent) not have the ability to make laws for others to obey? You might think I'm taking this question in an overly-grandiose fashion, but it specifically mentions "civilized society." Society in general. This isn't targeting small local organizations.
Anonymous W replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,526
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Fair enough. I found the "always" part of the statement to be disturbing (as if a strict hierarchy was necessary everywhere) and couldn't bring myself to agree with it. A lot of the items could have been more clearly phrased. It was often hard to know whether they wanted you to judge whether a statement was generally true or always true.
Fair enough. I found the "always" part of the statement to be disturbing (as if a strict hierarchy was necessary everywhere) and couldn't bring myself to agree with it. A lot of the items could have been more clearly phrased. It was often hard to know whether they wanted you to judge whether a statement was generally true or always true.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,527
@previous (W)
Well, politics is 90% interpretation. Interpretation of the Constitution, interpretation of freedom... your response showed your mindset towards the attitude of the question, which is probably more accurate a means of measurement than you'd think.
Well, politics is 90% interpretation. Interpretation of the Constitution, interpretation of freedom... your response showed your mindset towards the attitude of the question, which is probably more accurate a means of measurement than you'd think.
Anonymous W replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,530
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Mostly, it's just knee-jerk skepticism that makes me cautious of statements using words like all, always, every, etc.
Mostly, it's just knee-jerk skepticism that makes me cautious of statements using words like all, always, every, etc.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,534
Anonymous W replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,538
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)I'm yet another who falls into the left-libertarian camp -- no big surprises here.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,540
@previous (W)
People say that as if the quadrants are the only things that matter — I still, legitimately, find each poster's individual placement interesting. Most of us are in the green quadrant, but you, @200,926 (KBR !sJ6B5l9wzM) and I could debate a wide range of economical and social issues we disagree on for hours.
People say that as if the quadrants are the only things that matter — I still, legitimately, find each poster's individual placement interesting. Most of us are in the green quadrant, but you, @200,926 (KBR !sJ6B5l9wzM) and I could debate a wide range of economical and social issues we disagree on for hours.
Anonymous X joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,543
I consider myself a blend of anarchism and communism.LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,544
@previous (X)
Question: did you just cheat and use the "make your own chart" page, or actually go through the test and strongly agree or disagree on each question in just the right way to engineer that result? Because I salute you if it's the latter.
Question: did you just cheat and use the "make your own chart" page, or actually go through the test and strongly agree or disagree on each question in just the right way to engineer that result? Because I salute you if it's the latter.
Anonymous X replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,548
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
I have taken this test for years and this is the result I always get. Except a tiny bit off from where its at right now.
I don't think my political views could ever be put into practice. The only real political system that works is an Orwellian Dystopia like the one were currently living in.
I have taken this test for years and this is the result I always get. Except a tiny bit off from where its at right now.
I don't think my political views could ever be put into practice. The only real political system that works is an Orwellian Dystopia like the one were currently living in.
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LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,550
@previous (X)
Seriously? I'm not implying your beliefs are wrong, if that's your actual result. I just don't believe I've ever heard of a hardcore anarchy-communist before.
Seriously? I'm not implying your beliefs are wrong, if that's your actual result. I just don't believe I've ever heard of a hardcore anarchy-communist before.
Anonymous W replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,552
@201,540 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
I'm sure. It's a generalized measure. My result is almost identical to Becky's, and I know her views don't align with mine all the time. A more accurate assessment would probably involve a greater number of axes and a result plotted within a cube or some n-dimensional hyperspace, but the complexity of interpreting it would probably make it uninteresting at that point.
I'm sure. It's a generalized measure. My result is almost identical to Becky's, and I know her views don't align with mine all the time. A more accurate assessment would probably involve a greater number of axes and a result plotted within a cube or some n-dimensional hyperspace, but the complexity of interpreting it would probably make it uninteresting at that point.
Anonymous X replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,553
@201,550 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Primitive anarchist communist to be exact. I think society and technology would have to be completely annihilated and we would have to return to living in small tribes for it to ever have any chance to working. I live in a cave right now, just come to my mom's place to eat and use the internet.
Primitive anarchist communist to be exact. I think society and technology would have to be completely annihilated and we would have to return to living in small tribes for it to ever have any chance to working. I live in a cave right now, just come to my mom's place to eat and use the internet.
LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,555
Anonymous W replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,558
Anonymous X replied with this 15 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,559
@201,555 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
I am definitely not joking. I think humans are way too wicked for any political system to work except the most brutal dictatorship. I would live in the cave full time except its not my land and I just moved from living off-grid so the transition is rough. Plan on living deep in the wilderness one day away from all of this. The off grid living and the cave are just practice.
I am definitely not joking. I think humans are way too wicked for any political system to work except the most brutal dictatorship. I would live in the cave full time except its not my land and I just moved from living off-grid so the transition is rough. Plan on living deep in the wilderness one day away from all of this. The off grid living and the cave are just practice.
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Anonymous X double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,560
This is where I use to live.LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,566
Anonymous X replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,567
@previous (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
No Lol. I am just a crazy autistic bipolar faggot. I have not had friends, girlfriends or sex in almost a decade. I mean I could but *shrugs* dont understand why other people seem to like other people so much.
No Lol. I am just a crazy autistic bipolar faggot. I have not had friends, girlfriends or sex in almost a decade. I mean I could but *shrugs* dont understand why other people seem to like other people so much.
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LatestDude !!nEftABMoF (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #201,568
@previous (X)
I don't think you give yourself enough credit. You seem intelligent and, at the very least, have a great deal of conviction in your ideals. The latter part can probably be explained by being a bit of a recluse instead of just having an unlikable personality.
I don't think you give yourself enough credit. You seem intelligent and, at the very least, have a great deal of conviction in your ideals. The latter part can probably be explained by being a bit of a recluse instead of just having an unlikable personality.
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StatistSocialist3000 replied with this 15 years ago, 15 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #202,167
@201,525 (LatestDude !!nEftABMoF)
Why do call yourself libertarian? You are clearly not. You don't believe society could exist without the state. You are a statist.
Why do call yourself libertarian? You are clearly not. You don't believe society could exist without the state. You are a statist.